Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

[mjive45]

What is the point in renaming Nautilus to CAJA?
And in the process lose all Nautilus extensions?

[kleeman]

I am getting a conflict between mate-applets and gnome-applets. When the latest version of mate-applets is to be installed it tries to overwrite invest and weather data files from the gnome-applets package. Any ideas?

The mate-applets version is 1.1.1 and it tries to install a new package mate-applets-common

[stefano-k]

I am getting a conflict between mate-applets and gnome-applets. When the latest version of mate-applets is to be installed it tries to overwrite invest and weather data files from the gnome-applets package. Any ideas?

can you tell me which files are in conflict?

[zerozero]

hi stefano,
this is the output (it's on lmde but shouldn't make big difference)

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After this operation, 1,972 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y
(Reading database ... 323435 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking mate-applets-common (from .../mate-applets-common_1.1.1-1_all.deb) ...
Replacing files in old package mate-applets ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mate-applets-common_1.1.1-1_all.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite '/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/invest-applet.png', which is also in package gnome-applets-data 3.2.1-1
dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
configured to not write apport reports
                                      Preparing to replace mate-applets 1.1.0-1 (using .../mate-applets_1.1.1-1_amd64.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement mate-applets ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mate-applets_1.1.1-1_amd64.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/invest-chart', which is also in package gnome-applets 3.2.1-1
configured to not write apport reports
                                      dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Processing triggers for mate-icon-theme ...
Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/mate-applets-common_1.1.1-1_all.deb
 /var/cache/apt/archives/mate-applets_1.1.1-1_amd64.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

[stovenator]

What is the point in renaming Nautilus to CAJA?
And in the process lose all Nautilus extensions?

The point is to allow side-by-side installations of both Gnome3 with Nautilus and MATE with Caja. Otherwise, the only file manager you'd have installed on your system would be one or the other.

[pmura]

hi stefano,
this is the output (it's on lmde but shouldn't make big difference)

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After this operation, 1,972 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y
(Reading database ... 323435 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking mate-applets-common (from .../mate-applets-common_1.1.1-1_all.deb) ...
Replacing files in old package mate-applets ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mate-applets-common_1.1.1-1_all.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite '/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/invest-applet.png', which is also in package gnome-applets-data 3.2.1-1
dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
configured to not write apport reports
                                      Preparing to replace mate-applets 1.1.0-1 (using .../mate-applets_1.1.1-1_amd64.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement mate-applets ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mate-applets_1.1.1-1_amd64.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/invest-chart', which is also in package gnome-applets 3.2.1-1
configured to not write apport reports
                                      dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Processing triggers for mate-icon-theme ...
Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/mate-applets-common_1.1.1-1_all.deb
 /var/cache/apt/archives/mate-applets_1.1.1-1_amd64.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

Hello, just joined to make it known that i too received this error exactly word for word while attempting to install mate today in debian testing edition.

[xpander]

same here.

removed gnome-applets and gnome-applets-data to resolve it for now (since i dont use gnome anyway)
but fix is needed... seems invest applet is conflicting.

[Amanas]

same here.

removed gnome-applets and gnome-applets-data to resolve it for now (since i dont use gnome anyway)
but fix is needed... seems invest applet is conflicting.

The bug has been fixed and will be available in mate-applets-1.1.2-1 whenever that makes its way into the tridex repo.

[andrew5859]

I'm having the same issues with MATE and am running LMDE/w kernel 3.2.1-8:

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andrew@lmde:~$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[sudo] password for andrew:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  mate-applets-common
The following packages will be upgraded:
  mate-applets
1 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B/8,525 kB of archives.
After this operation, 1,971 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
Reading changelogs... Done
(Reading database ... 233516 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking mate-applets-common (from .../mate-applets-common_1.1.1-1_all.deb) ...
Replacing files in old package mate-applets ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mate-applets-common_1.1.1-1_all.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite '/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/invest-applet.png', which is also in package gnome-applets-data 3.2.1-1
configured to not write apport reports
                                      dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Preparing to replace mate-applets 1.1.0-1 (using .../mate-applets_1.1.1-1_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement mate-applets ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mate-applets_1.1.1-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/invest-chart', which is also in package gnome-applets 3.2.1-1
configured to not write apport reports
                                      dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Processing triggers for mate-icon-theme ...
Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/mate-applets-common_1.1.1-1_all.deb
 /var/cache/apt/archives/mate-applets_1.1.1-1_i386.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
andrew@lmde:~$


How soon would you expect that fix for the tridex repo

[Amanas]

How soon would you expect that fix for the tridex repo

It's already built, but stefano-k needs to upload it to the tridex repo still and he's asleep. 8-12 hours maybe? Definitely within 24.

[andrew5859]

Sweet....in the mean time, that fix that xpander mentioned....it works and the mate-applets files went in without a hitch....so far all is good....pass along the word in case anyone else is having the same issues...way to go xpander .....cheers


Andrew

[xpander]

same here.

removed gnome-applets and gnome-applets-data to resolve it for now (since i dont use gnome anyway)
but fix is needed... seems invest applet is conflicting.

The bug has been fixed and will be available in mate-applets-1.1.2-1 whenever that makes its way into the tridex repo.

works now.

thanks.

[kleeman]

OK installed the update but invest crashes when I add it to a panel and weather appears to be missing....

[zerozero]

tks stefano&all, the issue is solved

[kleeman]

So I just updated to version 1.1.3 and all works now perfectly. Both the weather and invest applets work as they did in gnome 2. Wonderful! Thanks stefano and perebos and team!

[Hawkeye_52]

but there's no gpg key and it doesn't allow me to install anything from this repo

After you add the repo to your sources bring up the terminal and run the following command\;

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sudo apt-get install mate-archive-keyring

The above is found on the following post on the new MATE blog (MATE's info is not very organized as yet it seems but it's still very young yet):

http://blog.karapetsas.com/index.php?id=2

One word of caution though. The MATE packages that come with Linux Mint 12 come through Mint's repositories, not directly from MATE's Tridex repos and I have found that attempting to install any package from MATE's Tridex repos tries to remove key components of LM 12's MATE DE. It also appears that the MATE DE included with Linux Mint 12 is not directly upgradable from the Tridex repos. For example, with the Tridex repos enabled Caja "installed" version is 1.0.x and MATE's Tridex repo version is 1.1.x but LM 12's Caja (in Synaptic) shows no upgrade available. Same with other LM 12 MATE packages. It looks like LM 12's version of MATE and MATE's latest version are two different animals entirely and are not compatible. Either you have Linux Mint 12's version installed or MATE's latest version.

Any thoughts on this?

A little late to the party, but I have the same keyring problem with a fresh install of Linux Mint 12 (01/28/12), after following the instructions about adding the tridex repository and installing the 'mate-archive-keyring' . Attached is a screenshot of the terminal error message. The only thing different from the problems with the original poster is that I am able to add stuff in Synaptic -- I just keep getting the message about about 'public key is not available'...

Thanks for any advice anyone can give me.

Hawkeye

[shini-kire]

1. download https://launchpad.net/~nilarimogard/+ar ... rig.tar.gz
2. extract it
3. cd /location/to/youtr/extracted/dockbarxfolder
4. copy http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/doku.php/m ... odeblock=1
5. open the script and change the pkgdir=src to pkgdir=.
6.copy it to the extracted dockbarx folder
7.go back to your terminal where u cd ur docbarxfolder
8.run executable for migrate.sh
$ chmod +x ./migrate.sh

9.run migrate script
$ ./migrate.sh

10. Install zeitgeist, python-wnck, python-mateapplet, python-imaging, python-keybinder, python-xlib and python-numpy (DockbarX might be able to run without python-numpy, but it shouldn't hurt to install it).
$ sudo apt-get install python-mateapplet python-imaging python-wnck python-keybinder python-numpy python-xlib zeitgeist

11.run the setup.py install
$ sudo ./setup.py install

12. Add DockBarX applet to panel (kill mate-panel first if necessary)

thaancks!!!! or in Spanish! GRACIAS!!! MUUCHAS GRACIAS! lo usare en mi blog dandote los credito ^^

[bdantas]

Linux Mint has been in the spotlight a lot lately, and I find it unfair that Mate hasn't gotten more coverage. I use LM12 with Mate on my computer and find that Mate is now a mature, stable, full-fledged replica of Gnome2. Perberos, Stefano, et al. rose to the occasion when the need for a Gnome2 fork arose and they did the work well and quickly.

I find it difficult to understand how a lot of Linux news blogs go on and on about how XFCE and Cinnamon are sufficiently Gnome2-like to be alternatives for disenfranchised Gnome2 users...often with no mention of Mate! (Or, when Mate is mentioned, it is in the last sentence as an afterthought.) HELLO?! This is like talking to a bereaved cat owner about getting a dog or a hamster, when he can easily get a new CAT--one that is a clone of the one he lost, no less.

I don't want something that's Gnome2-LIKE unless I have no choice--I want Gnome2! It is what I know how to use and it was perfect just as it was (i.e., it had no perceived deficiencies). For you guys out there who feel the same way, know that Mate is a stable and fully-functional EXACT REPLICA of Gnome2.

I'm looking forward to using LM13-LTS with Mate for at least 5 years, and hope that Mate will continue to be developed and included with Linux Mint releases into the distant future. Also, I hope that the Mate developers stay conservative and faithful to their philosophy that not all change is progress. Thank you Perberos, Stefano, and Clem. Many, many thanks

[stefano-k]

Thank you Perberos, Stefano, and Clem. Many, many thanks

Holy words, bdantas! MATE is often ignored or objected. But only with users like you we can continue to keep GNOME2 alive and develop it in the future. Thank you!

[clem]

MATE is extremely important to us and you've summarized it really well. Trying to offer people something new is one thing, making sure what they care for and love continues to be there and available is an absolute necessity.