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Re: Copy to USB devices slow and problematic

Postby moonmopus on Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:35 pm

i share your pain. system is a gigabyte x58 ud3r rev2 with an i7950 and 12 gb ram running linux mint 12 64 bit. when copying multimedia files from one of my internal drives to an 8 gb thumb drive, it creeps to a crawl - literally 1/10th or 1/20th of the transfer speed it started out at. for what it's worth, i initially tried reformatting the thumb drive (as a noob, i assumed that could well have had something to do with it). i'm nevertheless surprised that there haven't been more discussions of this problem.i hope this gets resolved because i don't see myself returning to windows.
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Re: Copy to USB devices slow and problematic

Postby J@n on Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:51 am

Hi moonmopus,

I am glad at least this thread is getting some attention :wink: It warms the heart to know I am not alone.

I too do not wish to return to Windows (it does have it's strong points but I prefer Linux) and am appearantly willing to "suffer" the copying problem.

Since there seems to be no solution I have my hopes on the next release.

Greetz,

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Re: Copy to USB devices slow and problematic

Postby soulrain on Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:12 pm

Detonate wrote:By trying from the command line with the same results, it is obvious that the problem does not lie with Nautilus. I have no further suggestions, hope this gets fixed by a system update.



I thank you too.

At least I learned all the different commands of how to relocate a file ^-^

None of them worked for me either.

Besides that I like linux mint so I really do not feel like switching to another distro which seems to be the only option.
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Re: Copy to USB devices slow and problematic

Postby gp73 on Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:23 pm

:cry: Wow, this sucks. I too am having the same problem with mint 9x64. How is it that such basic, basic functions can be handled so badly? Ubuntu now sucks and it seems that Mint is no better. Taking over 2 hours to transfer 7.3gigs to a 8gig stick (fat32). USB2 not USB1. What is up? Will we ever have a OS that just works? Sh%^ I'm about to go buy Win 7 or start beta testing Win8 to find a system that can do BASIC FUNCTIONS, IE: open files, manipulate them and move and transfer to different hard drives.
TRANSFERRING AT A BLAZING SPEED OF 930kb/SEC. GOOD JOB PROGRAMMERS!
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Re: Copy to USB devices slow and problematic

Postby J@n on Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:03 am

gp73 wrote::cry: Wow, this sucks. I too am having the same problem with mint 9x64. How is it that such basic, basic functions can be handled so badly? Ubuntu now sucks and it seems that Mint is no better. Taking over 2 hours to transfer 7.3gigs to a 8gig stick (fat32). USB2 not USB1. What is up? Will we ever have a OS that just works? Sh%^ I'm about to go buy Win 7 or start beta testing Win8 to find a system that can do BASIC FUNCTIONS, IE: open files, manipulate them and move and transfer to different hard drives.
TRANSFERRING AT A BLAZING SPEED OF 930kb/SEC. GOOD JOB PROGRAMMERS!


Hi gp73,

I can understand your anger and frustration but I am afraid your post will not stimulate the developers to speed up the creation of a solution. :mrgreen:

And before you go out buying/testing Windows you might want to take a look at OpenSuse (that distro copies at blazing speeds on my machine :wink: )

Greetz,

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Re: Copy to USB devices slow and problematic

Postby grizwald on Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:44 pm

I am having the same problem transferring files to USB memory sticks. When using Mint 11 the transfer speed was not so too bad. Since upgrading to Mint 13 [Cinnamon] the transfer speed to the same USB memory stick is pathetic. Starts off like a rocket, then slows down to a crawl with the message ' 0 seconds remaining' evident for up to a minute in some cases. Clearly it isn't the fault of the USB stick being the same one as used earlier and the same format type so the most likely culprit being the program. I might point out that transferring to USB external drives is just as fast as before - WITHOUT the lengthy '0 seconds remaining' message too. Only when using USB memory sticks is when this problem arises.

A fix would be excellent, does anyone know of one?

G.

Update...
11.2 GB data took 48 minutes to complete.
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Re: Copy to USB devices slow and problematic

Postby J@n on Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:06 pm

Hi Grizwald,

Welcome to the club.

AFAIK it should be fixed with kernel 3.3. Correct me if I am wrong.

Let's wait and see.

Other than that Mint rocks :D

Greetz,

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Re: Copy to USB devices slow and problematic

Postby grizwald on Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:36 pm

Thanks J@n, Good to know that something is in hand to fix it.

Greetz 2,

Griz.
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Re: Copy to USB devices slow and problematic

Postby grizwald on Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:41 pm

Problem persists with Mint 14 :( .
Standing joke amongst my Mint friends with the exceedingly large number of "Zero Seconds" at the end of any file copy to a USB memory stick.
Seems OK to a USB Hard Drive though. All very strange...

G.
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Debian Edition, Too

Postby Gid on Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:23 am

I'm getting the same problem running Debian Edition with the latest update pack. In fact, the final "zero seconds" of a 144 MB file is going on its third minute or so right now. I am using a USB multi-card reader (mounted pass-through in the 3.5" bay :wink:) with an SD card inserted.

I'm running 16 GB RAM, so it's not a memory issue--but I did find this helpful resource pertaining to an issue possibly related (thought probably not).

EDIT: I've also found that things get progressively slower at the 1.2 GB mark with larger files, eventually hanging at "zero seconds" for quite longer than with smaller files.
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Re: Copy to USB devices slow and problematic

Postby Michael42 on Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:17 pm

Here is an obscure solution I found a year or so ago that seems to help me. It helps me get between 20 and 10 MB/sec copies between Ubuntu and Mint 14.1 Cinnamon and USB sticks. It also helps with faster portable drive speeds as well.

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sudo gedit /etc/default/grub


Insert
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pci=routeirq elevator=as
into the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT like so:

GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="pci=routeirq elevator=as quiet splash"

save. then run
update-grub
reboot system. Let me know if it helps you too. I'd also like to know from experts if there are any drawbacks to this solution, as I haven't seen any.

Michael
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Re: Copy to USB devices slow and problematic

Postby reverseinverse on Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:15 am

I have encountered this issue a lot (I'm running Mint 14 64-bit Cinnamon)... I believe that when the copy dialog enters this state, the copy operation has actually been completed... When I click cancel on the dialog, the copy target is the same size as the source... Can someone confirm that this is the case for them, or even better, that it's not...
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Re: Copy to USB devices slow and problematic

Postby butler360 on Sat Feb 16, 2013 3:45 am

Is this perhaps the issue being discussed here?

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2033090
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Re: Copy to USB devices slow and problematic

Postby Gid on Sat Feb 16, 2013 4:24 am

That sounds exactly like it! Thanks for sharing.

Hmm... Now I'm torn. I didn't realize the long delay resulted in a significant decrease in write operations.
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Re: Copy to USB devices slow and problematic

Postby Rayeta76 on Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:14 am

Hi all;

Someone with LMDE or another version of Mint, do you spend files to USB pendrive to over 3Mb / s?

I have made ​​many tests and looked configurations, and I have put in my Pc USB 1.0, USB 2.0 and USB 3.0 and their velocity, the result below:

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javier@lmde:~$ sudo lsusb -t
/:  Bus 07.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=uhci_hcd/2p, 12M
/:  Bus 06.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=uhci_hcd/2p, 12M
/:  Bus 05.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=uhci_hcd/2p, 12M
/:  Bus 04.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/2p, 5000M
/:  Bus 03.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/2p, 480M
/:  Bus 02.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=uhci_hcd/2p, 12M
/:  Bus 01.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=ehci_hcd/8p, 480M
    |__ Port 2: Dev 5, If 0, Class=stor., Driver=usb-storage, 480M
    |__ Port 4: Dev 2, If 0, Class=stor., Driver=usb-storage, 480M
javier@lmde:~$

As you see in theory the speed of 480Mb / s at most 1 Gb so theoretically would be 2 seconds, do not want that because it is impossible that I later peroi more than 5 minutes to copy a movie I think 1.4 Gb excessive.

But none of my USB ports're able to overcome the 3mb / s ie to spend 5 gb'm over 20 minutes.
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Re: Copy to USB devices slow and problematic

Postby zolar1 on Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:35 pm

grizwald wrote:I am having the same problem transferring files to USB memory sticks. When using Mint 11 the transfer speed was not so too bad. Since upgrading to Mint 13 [Cinnamon] the transfer speed to the same USB memory stick is pathetic. Starts off like a rocket, then slows down to a crawl with the message ' 0 seconds remaining' evident for up to a minute in some cases. Clearly it isn't the fault of the USB stick being the same one as used earlier and the same format type so the most likely culprit being the program. I might point out that transferring to USB external drives is just as fast as before - WITHOUT the lengthy '0 seconds remaining' message too. Only when using USB memory sticks is when this problem arises.

A fix would be excellent, does anyone know of one?

G.

Update...
11.2 GB data took 48 minutes to complete.


I have Mint 13, 64 bit, KDE

My initial transfer speeds to a usb 3 flash drive connected to a usb port are that of a usb 2.0
I noticed something interesting too.
When copying large files, my RAM was filled to capacity (I have 8gb RAM).
And STAYED that way. It did not release unless I logged out or started something else, then it still took a while to release the memory.

Perhaps a bottle neck of sorts as well as bad usb 3.0 drivers?

kInfo reports I have usb 3.0 available on that port with a max of 5,000 Mb/s rating. And yet I barely get usb 2.0 speeds initially then dwindles off to usb 1.1 speeds eventually.
I have 2 different USB 3 flash drives and both do the same thing.
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Re: Copy to USB devices slow and problematic

Postby zolar1 on Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:44 pm

J@n wrote:Hi soulrain,

No concensus as far as I am concerned. I would prefer to stay with Minty if I can.

It seems to be solved in the next Ubuntu release (12.04?) with kernel 3.2.0. At least that's what I read here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour ... omments/51

I am not enough of a Linux buff to know if it would be possible to use this kernel in my current Mint installation. Would be nice though :)

Greetz,

J@n



No, it is not fixed. I can only transfer at usb 2.0 speeds and less on a usb 3.0 port and usb 3.0 flash drive.

And the fuller the memory (RAM) gets the SLOWER it goes.
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Re: Copy to USB devices slow and problematic

Postby krazymir on Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:41 pm

I am genuinely surprised that such a buggy distro can become the most used one. Guess it's all the people switching from Windows and not familiar with any other GUIs...
I have the same problem and it's hard to solve.
The only good thing about this distro is the hardware recognition. All else, including Cinnamon is poorly finished, sorry to say. Swithching back to Ubuntu... At least it's more mature distro. Maybe I'll revisit Mint in a few years. I think the forking of Cinnamon from Gnome is only gonna make things worse...
Hope this helps someone.
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Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)
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Re: Copy to USB devices slow and problematic

Postby pelleoss on Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:18 am

After the last updates, I'm facing the same problem!! :(
(running LM 13 64bit KDE).
Copying to USB pen drive takes ~3-4 minutes for 300MB!!! (data rate ~1.5MB/s!!!)
And this occurs only with USB pen drive: If I copy to an external usb hdd it take few seconds.

What can I do to solve it?
If I remember well last updates were about GRUB & HPLIP... but I'm not sure :oops:
I should updated the SW no more! This is the 3rd time an update creates problems instead of solving them! :evil:

I already tried the solution proposed of editing the /etc/default/grub but with no result.
The only result is now the progress bar reach the end immediately but of course the copy of the file is not completed and I have to wait anyway.

Thanks for your help,
Claudio:)
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Re: Copy to USB devices slow and problematic

Postby zolar1 on Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:02 pm

I too am plagued by ultra slow USB3 performance.

I have a 1 year old laptop with usb3 ports. I bought a usb3 flash drive. Several actually. All get the same problem - TOO SLOW.

During one install, I briefly saw some sort of error.

Said something 'called for 80 (something), falling back to default 64 (something)'.
I assume the 80 (something) is meant for USB 3.0 and the 64 (something) is meant for USB 2.0.

It can explain a LOT if this is the case.

If you blink for even an instant you can miss the error.

To recreate this, plug in a usb3 flash drive into the usb3 port.
Install Mint 13 (or 15) from a disk.

If you are lucky you might see the message. Don't blink!

I want to find out where that 64 (something) is in linux and edit it to force it to use the 80 (something).

I can start out around 60+ Mb/s and drop to as low as UNDER 1Mb/s when copying a movie to the flash drive.
Reads aren't that much better.

Also, I noticed that for some reason when copying large files to a flash drive it consumes massive amounts of memory. So much so that it drags the system down to the point that the mouse won't move sometimes.

The long delay after copying is a cache flush.

VERY annoying.

You cannot multitask and effectively get any kind of good speed when copying to a flash drive.
>small< files seem to work ok, but nothing appreciable.

I tried the same experiment on the wife's Win7 laptop. Hers FLIES!

Perhaps the developers can force the default to be the 80 (something) instead of the 64 (something)?
It might slow down USB2.0 stuff in favor of getting the speed ratings for USB3.

Flash drives are cheap now so those using 2.0 can simply buy a usb 3.0 drive.

Anyone know if there is a speed difference between the file systems on a flash drive?
ext2,3,4,xfs, etc vs fat, fat32, ExFat, NTFS ?

For me I am stuck using NTFS for all my compatibility needs :-(
A suggestion for the developers - add ExFat compatibility in all future distros. Makes life easier.

I vaguely remember seeing something about microframes, but unsure.

Side note:

I tried Open SuSe and USB seems MUCH faster than Mint. Don't like SuSe. Just did it for and experiment.
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