LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) -{CLOSED}

[andrew5859]

Well that didn't last long....don't like KDE...to use to using LMDE. Hey Gerd....did you get all the updates on your system before you installed xiphos, you know, kernel 3.2.0-1......that's where I'm at now and xiphos won't work....I'll even throw in the output of inxi -r:

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andrew@lmde:~$ inxi -r
Repos:     Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list
           deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import backport romeo
           deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest testing main contrib non-free
           deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/multimedia testing main non-free
           deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free
           deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main non-free
           deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free
           deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/security testing/updates main contrib non-free


I went through debian testing along with what's above and got the kernel, then disabled testing....everything is up to date, then installed xiphos, but it won't completely start up....it'll start briefly then close....also, I don't have any admin privilages to make changes to files...I added them in Package Manager, but I still don't have anything....any ideas?.....cheers


Andrew

[Brian49]

Has anyone installed the recent update to the module-init-tools package, and the two new dependencies that come with it, please? The whole thing looks a bit ominous to me, although I couldn't say exactly why. Many thanks.

[GeneC]

Hi Brian

module-init-tools upgraded for me yesterday with no apparent problems.

However, upon investigating, I find this description in synaptic.

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module-init-tools 6-1
transitional dummy package (module-init-tools to kmod)
 
This dummy package is provided to support the transition from
module-init-tools to kmod and should be removed afterwards.

I do find kmod 6-1 installed,

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gene@zordon:~$  apt-cache policy kmod
kmod:
  Installed: 6-1
  Candidate: 6-1
  Version table:
 *** 6-1 0
        500 http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

so it appears module-init-tools is not be needed any more, but did not get deleted?

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gene@zordon:~$ apt-cache policy module-init-tools
module-init-tools:
  Installed: 6-1
  Candidate: 6-1
  Version table:
 *** 6-1 0
        500 http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

[GeneC]

Caution.

There are some new KDE packages coming into SID

from APTOSID forum
http://aptosid.com/index.php?name=PNphp ... 2abe43c138

Post subject: KDE 4.7.4 hits Sid [TAKE CARE!]

There may be some removals if you have anything KDE
I am running Gnome, but with K3B

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Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  compiz compiz-kde k3b kdebase-runtime kdelibs5-plugins libkatepartinterfaces4

The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libquvi-scripts libquvi7 libtiff5

The following packages will be upgraded:
  acpi-support-base cups cups-bsd cups-client cups-common cups-ppdc gir1.2-totem-plparser-1.0 kdelibs-bin kdelibs5-data kdoctools libcups2 libcupscgi1 libcupsdriver1
  libcupsimage2 libcupsmime1 libcupsppdc1 libjavascriptcoregtk-1.0-0 libjavascriptcoregtk-3.0-0 libkcmutils4 libkde3support4 libkdecore5 libkdesu5 libkdeui5 libkdewebkit5
  libkdnssd4 libkemoticons4 libkfile4 libkhtml5 libkidletime4 libkio5 libkjsapi4 libkjsembed4 libkmediaplayer4 libknewstuff3-4 libknotifyconfig4 libkntlm4 libkparts4
  libkprintutils4 libkpty4 libkrosscore4 libktexteditor4 libkutils4 libnepomuk4 libnepomukquery4a libnepomukutils4 libpackagekit-glib2-14 libplasma3 libsolid4 libsoprano4
  libthreadweaver4 libtotem-plparser17 libwebkitgtk-1.0-0 libwebkitgtk-1.0-common libwebkitgtk-3.0-0 libwebkitgtk-3.0-common linux-base linux-libc-dev ntfs-3g ntfsprogs
  packagekit packagekit-backend-aptcc python-packagekit shared-desktop-ontologies soprano-daemon xnest xserver-common xserver-xephyr xserver-xorg-core
68 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 6 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 45.1 MB of archives.
After this operation, 23.0 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?


Time for me to wait a day or two.

[Brian49]

It would appear that module-init-tools can't be removed even after the update, as a load of system-critical packages still depend on it, including the kernel. So either the Synaptic blurb about removing it is baloney, or else a so-far-unknown config change is needed somewhere so that those packages come to depend solely on kmod.

[GeneC]

There are quite a few posts on this matter in the Arch forums, but no clear answers?
http://www.archlinux.org/news/kmod-repl ... nit-tools/

News: kmod replaces module-init-tools
2012-01-21 - Dave Reisner
With module-init-tools being declared a dead project by its current maintainer, a new project has stepped up to take its place: kmod. This is intended to be a drop-in replacement, though deprecated functionality in module-init-tools has not been reimplemented.

If, upon upgrade, pacman moves /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf to a .pacsave, you should move it back. This file, and any other config read by module-init-tools, is still read by kmod. However, the kmod package will no longer include a blank config file. You'll find the same (if not more) documentation in the manpages and --help output for the binaries.

http://bbs.archbang.org/viewtopic.php?id=2115
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1053329

As everything is working fine for me, I am going to leave it there.

I have no

/etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf

[Brian49]

I've downgraded to the previous version of module-init-tools, and removed kmod and its library. While updating initramfs-tools today, I got a series of nasty messages in the terminal about missing modules, which I suspect had something to do with this kmod business.

[GeneC]

Caution
There are some new KDE packages coming into SID

from APTOSID forum
http://aptosid.com/index.php?name=PNphp ... 2abe43c138

Post subject: KDE 4.7.4 hits Sid [TAKE CARE!]

There may be some removals if you have anything KDE
I am running Gnome, but with K3B

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Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  compiz compiz-kde k3b kdebase-runtime kdelibs5-plugins libkatepartinterfaces4

The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libquvi-scripts libquvi7 libtiff5

The following packages will be upgraded:
  acpi-support-base cups cups-bsd cups-client cups-common cups-ppdc gir1.2-totem-plparser-1.0 kdelibs-bin kdelibs5-data kdoctools libcups2 libcupscgi1 libcupsdriver1
  libcupsimage2 libcupsmime1 libcupsppdc1 libjavascriptcoregtk-1.0-0 libjavascriptcoregtk-3.0-0 libkcmutils4 libkde3support4 libkdecore5 libkdesu5 libkdeui5 libkdewebkit5
  libkdnssd4 libkemoticons4 libkfile4 libkhtml5 libkidletime4 libkio5 libkjsapi4 libkjsembed4 libkmediaplayer4 libknewstuff3-4 libknotifyconfig4 libkntlm4 libkparts4
  libkprintutils4 libkpty4 libkrosscore4 libktexteditor4 libkutils4 libnepomuk4 libnepomukquery4a libnepomukutils4 libpackagekit-glib2-14 libplasma3 libsolid4 libsoprano4
  libthreadweaver4 libtotem-plparser17 libwebkitgtk-1.0-0 libwebkitgtk-1.0-common libwebkitgtk-3.0-0 libwebkitgtk-3.0-common linux-base linux-libc-dev ntfs-3g ntfsprogs
  packagekit packagekit-backend-aptcc python-packagekit shared-desktop-ontologies soprano-daemon xnest xserver-common xserver-xephyr xserver-xorg-core
68 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 6 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 45.1 MB of archives.
After this operation, 23.0 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?


Time for me to wait a day or two.

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Safely upgraded full DU this morning.

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Commit Log for Wed Mar  7 06:45:54 2012


Removed the following packages:
kdebase-runtime-data

Upgraded the following packages:
acpi-support-base (0.138-13) to 0.138-14
apt (0.8.15.9) to 0.8.15.10
apt-utils (0.8.15.9) to 0.8.15.10
bluefish (2.2.1-1) to 2.2.2-1
bluefish-data (2.2.1-1) to 2.2.2-1
bluefish-plugins (2.2.1-1) to 2.2.2-1
bzr (2.5.0-1) to 2.5.0-2
cups (1.5.2-5) to 1.5.2-6
cups-bsd (1.5.2-5) to 1.5.2-6
cups-client (1.5.2-5) to 1.5.2-6
cups-common (1.5.2-5) to 1.5.2-6
cups-ppdc (1.5.2-5) to 1.5.2-6
dictionaries-common (1.12.4) to 1.12.5
dnsmasq-base (2.59-4) to 2.60-1
fonts-cantarell (0.0.7-1) to 0.0.7-2
gir1.2-atspi-2.0 (2.3.90-1) to 2.3.91-1
gir1.2-freedesktop (1.31.10-1) to 1.31.20-1
gir1.2-glib-2.0 (1.31.10-1) to 1.31.20-1
gir1.2-totem-plparser-1.0 (2.32.6-2+b1) to 2.32.6-2+b2
gnome-screensaver (3.2.0-2+b1) to 3.2.2-1
grub-common (1.99-14) to 1.99-17
grub-pc (1.99-14) to 1.99-17
grub-pc-bin (1.99-14) to 1.99-17
grub2-common (1.99-14) to 1.99-17
gzip (1.4-2) to 1.4-3
initramfs-tools (0.100) to 0.101
kdebase-runtime (4:4.6.5-1+b1) to 4:4.7.4-2
kdelibs-bin (4:4.6.5-2+b1) to 4:4.7.4-3
kdelibs5-data (4:4.6.5-2) to 4:4.7.4-3
kdelibs5-plugins (4:4.6.5-2+b1) to 4:4.7.4-3
kdoctools (4:4.6.5-2+b1) to 4:4.7.4-3
kmod (6-1) to 6-1.1

kdebase-runtime-data was removed which caused no problesm with K3B, my only KDE app.

[Regulus74]

At shutdown, I have this error:

unmounting temporary file system...umount: /var/run: device is busy
(in some case useful info about processes taht use the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))
failed

[GeneC]

Regulus

Yes, seen that warning for several weeks.

I found this.
See comment #10, #32
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499452

Listing #11
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux ... -v3-104-3/

No apparent problems here.

[TheGreatSudoku]

I see kmod is currently flagged by apt-listbugs.

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=662891

I notice in the bug report it says the bug (only?) breaks debian kernels. I roll my own kernel from liquorix source. Does anyone know if this bug affects liquorix kernels?

[GeneC]

GS

Running

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 Kernel 3.2.0-9.dmz.1-liquorix-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit)

with kmod update yesterday (3-7-12)

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gene@zordon:~$ apt-cache policy kmod
kmod:
  Installed: 6-1.1
  Candidate: 6-1.1
  Version table:
 *** 6-1.1 0
        500 http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status


No apparant problems, except for the

At shutdown, I have this error:

unmounting temporary file system...umount: /var/run: device is busy
(in some case useful info about processes taht use the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))
failed

shut down error noted by Regulus above.
BUT, I noticed this before the kmod update


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software-properties-gtk withheld with todays updates. (gnome)

[Regulus74]

Regulus

Yes, seen that warning for several weeks.

No apparent problems here.

Me too

[craigevil]

No issues here, had two days of giant upgrades, both around 150MB. Mostly KDE.

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# apt-cache policy kmod
kmod:
  Installed: 6-1.1
  Candidate: 6-1.1
  Version table:
 *** 6-1.1 0
        500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main i386 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status


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# apt-cache policy linux-image-3.2.0-1-486
linux-image-3.2.0-1-486:
  Installed: 3.2.7-1
  Candidate: 3.2.7-1
  Version table:
 *** 3.2.7-1 0
        500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main i386 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status


DO NOT try to remove module-init-tools, this is why:

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# apt-get remove module-init-tools -s
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  acpi-support acpi-support-base acpid alsa-base alsa-utils dkms initramfs-tools intel-microcode kde-plasma-desktop
  kde-standard linux-image-2.6-486 linux-image-3.2.0-1-486 linux-image-3.2.0-2-486 linux-image-486 linux-sound-base
  microcode.ctl module-init-tools pm-utils powermgmt-base tp-smapi-dkms upower
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 21 to remove and 0 not upgraded.


[Regulus74]

At shutdown, I have this error:

unmounting temporary file system...umount: /var/run: device is busy
(in some case useful info about processes taht use the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))
failed

In my LMDE

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$ ls -l /var/
totale 36
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  4096 lug 24  2011 backups
drwxr-xr-x 21 root root  4096 feb 19 19:04 cache
drwxr-xr-x 61 root root  4096 gen 19 17:56 lib
drwxrwsr-x  2 root staff 4096 nov 13  2010 local
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root     9 ott 27 18:48 lock -> /run/lock
drwxr-xr-x 13 root root  4096 mar  9 17:38 log
drwxrwsr-x  2 root mail  4096 nov 23  2010 mail
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  4096 nov 23  2010 opt
drwxr-xr-x 21 root root   840 mar  9 17:37 run
drwxr-xr-x  9 root root  4096 mar  7 19:09 spool
drwxrwxrwt  2 root root  4096 mar  9 17:48 tmp

in Debian sid:

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$ ls -l /var/
totale 40
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  4096 mar  8 00:42 backups
drwxr-xr-x 18 root root  4096 feb  3 23:38 cache
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  4096 ott 29 17:13 games
drwxr-xr-x 62 root root  4096 feb 22 04:18 lib
drwxrwsr-x  2 root staff 4096 feb  7  2011 local
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root     9 mag 24  2011 lock -> /run/lock
drwxr-xr-x 17 root root  4096 mar  8 17:24 log
drwxrwsr-x  2 root mail  4096 mar  8 16:30 mail
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  4096 apr 12  2011 opt
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root     4 mag 24  2011 run -> /run
drwxr-xr-x 11 root root  4096 mar  8 00:55 spool
drwxrwxrwt  2 root root  4096 mar  8 18:26 tmp

Why?

[mockturtl]

OK guys now I have a bigger problem with my desktop Computer.
Seems one of my updates updated my kernel to 3.2.0-2.
Well that has broken my nvidia from loading.
I had fixed this issue with past kernel updates by running the module assistant commands for the nvidia kernel.
That is not working this time and I am left at a command prompt.
All my old kernels won't start my nvidia either.
I am using the non-free drivers.
Any suggestions on what to try?

My nvidia cards are not happy with 3.2 and proprietary drivers, but try asking Zerozero. (Maybe use the sid breakages thread, since you're tracking sid)

[dcihon]

Guys I posted this over in Cinnamon (SID) thread.
Didn't know how to move it or delete.
I am re posting it here as I was instructed to do.

OK guys now I have a bigger problem with my desktop Computer.
Seems one of my updates updated my kernel to 3.2.0-2.
Well that has broken my nvidia from loading.
I had fixed this issue with past kernel updates by running the module assistant commands for the nvidia kernel.
That is not working this time and I am left at a command prompt.
All my old kernels won't start my nvidia either.
I am using the non-free drivers.
Any suggestions on what to try?

[Regulus74]

At shutdown, I have this error:

unmounting temporary file system...umount: /var/run: device is busy
(in some case useful info about processes taht use the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))
failed

I solved the problem by deleting /run , recreating it as normal folder and rebooting the system

[Brian49]

I solved the problem by deleting /run , recreating it as normal folder and rebooting the system :D

What happens to the contents of /run when you do that - do they automatically get recreated as well? Thanks.

[Regulus74]

I solved the problem by deleting /run , recreating it as normal folder and rebooting the system

What happens to the contents of /run when you do that - do they automatically get recreated as well? Thanks.

/run is a temp folder and so, when you rebooting the system, the files are recrated