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best source for wine

Postby benjie1 on Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:40 pm

Best source to download and install wine - from synaptic package manager, software manager or from wine?
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Re: best source for wine

Postby Jupiter_Spunk on Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:59 pm

software manager, and synaptic manager will use the same repositories, os they don't matter.

your pick.
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Re: best source for wine

Postby benjie1 on Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:25 pm

OK. So I guess you left out wine itself on purpose? Or not? Thanks. Bob
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Re: best source for wine

Postby Jupiter_Spunk on Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:20 am

Wine Distributes the files for the repositories, So, you may get a newer version of wine from Wine itself, but I generally start with what comes with the distro.
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Re: best source for wine

Postby benjie1 on Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:49 am

Neither the Software center nor the Synaptic Software has Wine at all. They have .doc and winetricks but not the program. In winehq I found a .tar.bz2 but there was info regarding stability so , as a Newbie, I left it alone. Can anyone advice me on how to get wine 1.4 or 1.5 installed on LMDE v 2.88. Thanks. Be kind to newbies. Will try and understand what your intructions say. Thanks. Bob
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Re: best source for wine

Postby zerozero on Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:09 pm

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Re: best source for wine

Postby Brian49 on Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:00 pm

It seems like every couple of weeks a new user pops up asking how best to install Wine. Perhaps it would make sense for the moderators to create a sticky outlining the main methods? It shouldn't involve much work, just a copy & paste job from previous threads.
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Re: best source for wine

Postby benjie1 on Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:30 am

Gee this is difficult to do but will stick with it. Followed the steps listed (forgot who) to download the 18 -19 .deb files for i386 (not the amd). Anyway, put those in the download diredtory, followed the instructions. It finished but now I can't find wine on my machine. If it installed, where is it? And what more do I need to do to install it? Thanks. Bob
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Re: best source for wine

Postby Kevin108 on Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:13 pm

In terminal:

whereis wine
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Re: best source for wine

Postby craigevil on Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:31 pm

Kevin108 wrote:In terminal:

whereis wine


which wine will give you the executable

$ which wine
/usr/bin/wine

Try doing as user not root
update-menus

Should either be a menu entry for wine or it might showup under Utilities.
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Re: best source for wine

Postby DrHu on Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:24 pm

Brian49 wrote:It seems like every couple of weeks a new user pops up asking how best to install Wine. Perhaps it would make sense for the moderators to create a sticky outlining the main methods? It shouldn't involve much work, just a copy & paste job from previous threads.


I hope not

Shouldn't we be using Linux and OSS for any programs we need
--a better way to run a windows application program is via a VM, such as virtualbox, and assumiong you have a legitimate copy of a windows OS
    For games , wine or any of the wine commercial ventures such as Codeweavers are not great
    --for that situation, multiboot (dual-boot) is the answer or even a separate game machine with the windows OS installed and all the games you can use!
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Re: best source for wine

Postby Brian49 on Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:27 pm

DrHu - I don't suggest that people should be positively encouraged to use Wine. I do suggest that a less labour-intensive way be found of coping with the steady stream of questions about how to install it.

I'm sure that dual-boot and VM are the best way to go for heavy usage of Windows applications. However, if, like me, all you want to do is run a handful of small Windows utilities which have no Linux equivalents (e.g. RouterStats), then Wine seems like a sensible solution.
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Re: best source for wine

Postby benjie1 on Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:03 pm

Now I have update pack 4 and cinnamon. Still don't see wine 1.4 in the synaptic center and wine itself ( as above) send me to a site with 18-19 files to download. Tried that and couldn't find wine anywhere to install or run it. That was prior to UP4. So now what's the best way to install wine 1.4. Only plan to run MS Office 2010, a solitaire game, from Hardwood Solitaire, and try iSpQ9. a video conferencing program from Lavasoft. Thanks for any help. Bob
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Re: best source for wine

Postby proteusmoteus on Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:06 pm

wine isn't offered by default by mint (won't see in synaptic or apt-get) so you can either download and install it manually (no automatic updates) or setup an external repository (possibility to corrupt your mint)

An external repository (what I use and describe below) corrupts your system by overwriting the default packages because the external packages have a higher version number, but just because the system thinks it is upgrading doesn't mean the upgrade is compatible. To only pull in the package you desire (wine) and keep it up to date you first need to modify the preferences file

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$ sudo gedit /etc/apt/preferences


and make it look like this (if I remember the prior settings this should be an increase of 100 to each entry):
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Package: *
Pin: release o=linuxmint
Pin-Priority: 800

Package: *
Pin: origin packages.linuxmint.com
Pin-Priority: 800

Package: *
Pin: origin debian.linuxmint.com
Pin-Priority: 700

Package: *
Pin: release o=Debian
Pin-Priority: 600


Repositories are preferred by the priority listed in this file over package version numbers. As external repositories such as the one about to be added for wine have a default 500 priority, no mint packages will be overwritten by the update process. Now it is safe to add the siduction repository (towo no longer maintains frickelplatz as he now works on siduction)

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$ sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list


and add this entry at the bottom
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#siduction: wine
deb http://packages.siduction.org/experimental unstable main contrib non-free


Lastly download and install via 'dpkg -i' the siduction-archive-keyring package, and you should see wine available for install in synaptic
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Re: best source for wine

Postby benjie1 on Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:42 am

OK Thanks proteusmoteus. That's quite a bit of code and editing to do for a newbie but will try and let you know what happens. Thanks. Bob
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Re: best source for wine

Postby zerozero on Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:54 pm

benjie1,
if those instructions are confusing probably the best is not to follow them, if you don't know what you're doing don't!

in that post, protesmoteus is instructing you to add a repo from a different distro, following completely different packages version (meaning that things can work luckily or can break your install).

there's people doing that, but those know what they are doing and how to do it.
it's up to you.
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Re: best source for wine

Postby GeneC on Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:44 pm

This is a real good source for wine.

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Sorry! :lol: :lol:
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Re: best source for wine

Postby benjie1 on Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:57 am

zerozero wrote:benjie1,
if those instructions are confusing probably the best is not to follow them, if you don't know what you're doing don't!

in that post, protesmoteus is instructing you to add a repo from a different distro, following completely different packages version (meaning that things can work luckily or can break your install).

there's people doing that, but those know what they are doing and how to do it.
it's up to you.



I am confused and did not ry what protesmotues said, although I was going to do it but backed off. What you said makes sense. But still the question is how can I get the latest wine installed in LMDE, update4, and Cinnamon desktop. Hope it can be cone fairly easily. Thanks. Bob

Anyone got a way for a newbie to get and install latest wine (v 1.4 or 1.5) The ideas above with 16 to 18 files didn't work. Have update4 and cinnamon on LMDE. Thanks again. Bob
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Re: best source for wine

Postby CapitalG on Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:41 pm

how do you install manually from here
http://dev.carbon-project.org/debian/wine-unstable/

i see there are several amd64 deb files. should i install all of them? :?
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Re: best source for wine

Postby Brian49 on Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:32 pm

You only need to install these three packages to get Wine up and running:

libwine-unstable
libwine-bin-unstable
wine-bin-unstable

Put the downloaded packages together in a folder. Right-click on the folder icon and select Open Terminal Here, then in the terminal, enter:

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sudo dpkg -i *.deb


Deciding which other packages to install will depend on what facilities you want available in Wine. For example, if you want audio, install libwine-alsa-unstable, and so on.
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