Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

[zerozero]

stefano,
mate-themes is in conflict with gnome-themes (in todays updates from tridex)

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Unpacking replacement mate-themes ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mate-themes_1.2.1-1+wheezy_all.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite '/usr/share/themes/Glider/gtk-2.0/gtkrc', which is also in package gnome-themes 2.30.2-1
configured to not write apport reports
                                      dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)


for the moment follow this "fix" here viewtopic.php?f=198&t=67502&p=562451#p562451

[stefano-k]

stefano,
mate-themes is in conflict with gnome-themes (in todays updates from tridex)

hi,
it's fixed in mate-themes 1.2.2-1

[mockturtl]

There's a snag with LMDE and tridex repos, libdjvulibre21 had a recent update that isn't included in UP4.

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The following packages will be upgraded:
  atril atril-common libatril{b}
3 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 1,813 kB of archives. After unpacking 16.4 kB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  libatril: Depends: libdjvulibre21 (>= 3.5.25.2) but 3.5.24-9 is installed.

$ apt-cache policy libdjvulibre21
libdjvulibre21:
  Installed: 3.5.24-9
  Candidate: 3.5.24-9

[äxl]

Could this be fixed by downloading the testing version from debian.org? Or shouldn't I?

[zerozero]

if all the deps are satisfied, i don't see the danger (but if you have to start chasing deps of deps, then ... dunno)

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amadeu@amadeu ~ $ apt show libdjvulibre21
Package: libdjvulibre21
State: installed
Automatically installed: no
Version: 3.5.25.2-1
Priority: optional
Section: libs
Maintainer: Barak A. Pearlmutter <bap@debian.org>
Architecture: amd64
Uncompressed Size: 1,767 k
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.11), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libjpeg8 (>= 8c), libstdc++6 (>=
         4.1.1), libdjvulibre-text (>= 3.5.25.2-1)
PreDepends: multiarch-support
Conflicts: libdjvulibre1
Replaces: libdjvulibre1, libdjvulibre15
Description: Runtime support for the DjVu image format
 DjVu runtime library.
Homepage: http://djvu.sourceforge.net/


[äxl]

if all the deps are satisfied, i don't see the danger (but if you have to start chasing deps of deps, then ... dunno)

I've pinned debian.org to 100 and this is all

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sudo apt-get -s install libdjvulibre21=3.5.25.2-1 libdjvulibre-text=3.5.25.2-1
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be upgraded:
  libdjvulibre-text libdjvulibre21
2 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 81 not upgraded.
Inst libdjvulibre-text [3.5.24-9] (3.5.25.2-1 Debian:testing [amd64])
Inst libdjvulibre21 [3.5.24-9] (3.5.25.2-1 Debian:testing [amd64])
Conf libdjvulibre-text (3.5.25.2-1 Debian:testing [amd64])
Conf libdjvulibre21 (3.5.25.2-1 Debian:testing [amd64])

[zerozero]

try the same (with the dry-run switch ofc ) but with debian at 500

[äxl]

try the same (with the dry-run switch ofc ) but with debian at 500

I don't think so. Or will I need this when MATE updates?

[äxl]

After a successful:

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sudo apt-get install libdjvulibre21=3.5.25.2-1 libdjvulibre-text=3.5.25.2-1

It says now:

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~ $ sudo apt-get -s dist-upgrade
Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
The following packages will be upgraded:
  atril atril-common caja caja-common engrampa engrampa-common eom eom-common
  ffmpegthumbnailer-caja libatril libcaja-extension libmarco libmate
  libmate-common libmatecanvas libmatecomponent libmatecomponentui libmateconf
  libmatecorba libmatedesktop libmatekbd libmatekeyring libmatemenu
  libmatenotify libmatepanelapplet libmatepolkit libmatesensorsappletplugin
  libmateui libmatevfs libmateweather libmateweather-common marco marco-common
  mate-applets mate-applets-common mate-backgrounds mate-calc mate-conf
  mate-conf-common mate-conf-editor mate-control-center mate-corba mate-core
  mate-desktop mate-desktop-common mate-desktop-environment mate-dialogs
  mate-icon-theme mate-indicator-applet mate-keyring mate-media mate-menus
  mate-mime-data mate-netspeed mate-notification-daemon mate-panel
  mate-panel-common mate-polkit mate-power-manager mate-power-manager-common
  mate-screensaver mate-sensors-applet mate-session-manager
  mate-settings-daemon mate-settings-daemon-common
  mate-settings-daemon-gstreamer mate-system-monitor mate-system-tools
  mate-terminal mate-terminal-common mate-text-editor mate-themes mate-utils
  mate-vfs mate-vfs-common mate-window-manager mozo python-corba python-mate
  python-mate-desktop python-mate-menu
81 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Inst atril [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64]) []
Inst atril-common [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [all]) []
Inst caja [1.2.0-1] (1.2.1-1+wheezy testing [amd64]) []
Inst caja-common [1.2.0-1] (1.2.1-1+wheezy testing [all]) []
Inst mate-conf-common [1.2.1-0] (1.2.1-1~wheezy testing [all]) []
Inst libmatecorba [1.2.1-1] (1.2.2-3~wheezy testing [amd64]) [mate-corba:amd64 ]
Inst mate-corba [1.2.1-1] (1.2.2-3~wheezy testing [amd64]) []
Inst libmateconf [1.2.1-0] (1.2.1-1~wheezy testing [amd64]) [mate-conf:amd64 ]
Inst mate-conf [1.2.1-0] (1.2.1-1~wheezy testing [amd64]) []
Inst libmatedesktop [1.2.0-0] (1.2.0-3+wheezy testing [amd64]) []
Inst libmatevfs [1.2.0-1] (1.2.1-2~wheezy testing [amd64]) [mate-vfs:amd64 ]
Inst mate-vfs [1.2.0-1] (1.2.1-2~wheezy testing [amd64]) []
Inst mate-vfs-common [1.2.0-1] (1.2.1-2~wheezy testing [all]) []
Inst mate-mime-data [1.2.0-1~mate] (1.2.2-1+wheezy testing [all]) []
Inst libcaja-extension [1.2.0-1] (1.2.1-1+wheezy testing [amd64]) []
Inst libmatekeyring [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64]) []
Inst libatril [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Inst mate-icon-theme [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [all])
Inst engrampa [1.2.0-1] (1.2.1-1+wheezy testing [amd64]) []
Inst engrampa-common [1.2.0-1] (1.2.1-1+wheezy testing [all])
Inst eom [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64]) []
Inst eom-common [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [all])
Inst libmatenotify [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Inst mate-dialogs [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Inst marco [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64]) []
Inst marco-common [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [all]) []
Inst libmarco [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Inst libmate [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2~wheezy testing [amd64]) []
Inst libmate-common [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2~wheezy testing [all])
Inst libmatecomponent [1.2.0-1~mate] (1.2.1-1~wheezy testing [amd64])
Inst libmatecanvas [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2~wheezy testing [amd64])
Inst libmatecomponentui [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Inst libmatekbd [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Inst libmatemenu [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64]) [mate-menus:amd64 ]
Inst mate-menus [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Inst libmatepanelapplet [1.2.1-1] (1.2.1-3+wheezy testing [amd64]) [mate-panel:amd64 ]
Inst mate-panel [1.2.1-1] (1.2.1-3+wheezy testing [amd64]) []
Inst mate-panel-common [1.2.1-1] (1.2.1-3+wheezy testing [all])
Inst libmateweather [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64]) []
Inst libmateweather-common [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [all])
Inst mate-desktop [1.2.0-0] (1.2.0-3+wheezy testing [amd64]) []
Inst mate-desktop-common [1.2.0-0] (1.2.0-3+wheezy testing [all])
Inst libmatepolkit [1.2.0-2] (1.2.0-4+wheezy testing [amd64])
Inst mate-polkit [1.2.0-2] (1.2.0-4+wheezy testing [amd64])
Inst libmatesensorsappletplugin [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Inst libmateui [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Inst mate-applets [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64]) []
Inst mate-applets-common [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [all])
Inst mate-backgrounds [1.2.0-1] (1.2.1-1+wheezy testing [all])
Inst mate-calc [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Inst mate-conf-editor [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Inst mate-settings-daemon-gstreamer [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-4+wheezy testing [amd64]) []
Inst mate-settings-daemon-common [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-4+wheezy testing [all])
Inst mate-settings-daemon [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-4+wheezy testing [all])
Inst mate-control-center [1.2.0-1] (1.2.1-5+wheezy testing [amd64])
Inst mate-netspeed [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Inst mate-sensors-applet [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Inst mate-system-tools [1.2.0-1] (1.2.2-1+wheezy testing [amd64])
Inst mate-utils [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Inst python-mate-menu [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Inst mozo [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [all])
Inst mate-desktop-environment [1.2.1] (1.2.2+wheezy testing [all]) []
Inst ffmpegthumbnailer-caja [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [all]) []
Inst mate-keyring [1.2.1-1] (1.2.1-2+wheezy testing [amd64]) []
Inst mate-media [1.2.0-1] (1.2.1-3+wheezy testing [amd64]) []
Inst mate-notification-daemon [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64]) []
Inst mate-power-manager [1.2.1-1] (1.2.1-2+wheezy testing [amd64]) []
Inst mate-power-manager-common [1.2.1-1] (1.2.1-2+wheezy testing [all]) []
Inst mate-window-manager [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [all]) []
Inst mate-session-manager [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-3+wheezy testing [amd64]) []
Inst mate-screensaver [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64]) []
Inst mate-system-monitor [1.2.0-1] (1.2.1-3+wheezy testing [amd64]) []
Inst mate-terminal [1.2.0-1] (1.2.1-2+wheezy testing [amd64]) []
Inst mate-terminal-common [1.2.0-1] (1.2.1-2+wheezy testing [all]) []
Inst mate-text-editor [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64]) []
Inst mate-themes [1.2.0-1] (1.2.2-1+wheezy testing [all]) []
Inst mate-core [1.2.1] (1.2.2+wheezy testing [all])
Inst mate-indicator-applet [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-4+wheezy testing [amd64])
Inst python-corba [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Inst python-mate [1.2.0-2] (1.2.0-3+wheezy testing [amd64])
Inst python-mate-desktop [1.2.0-1] (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf libmatecorba (1.2.2-3~wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf libmateconf (1.2.1-1~wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf libmatedesktop (1.2.0-3+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf libcaja-extension (1.2.1-1+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf libmatekeyring (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf libatril (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf mate-icon-theme (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [all])
Conf mate-corba (1.2.2-3~wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf mate-conf-common (1.2.1-1~wheezy testing [all])
Conf mate-conf (1.2.1-1~wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf atril-common (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [all])
Conf atril (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf libmatevfs (1.2.1-2~wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf mate-vfs-common (1.2.1-2~wheezy testing [all])
Conf mate-mime-data (1.2.2-1+wheezy testing [all])
Conf mate-vfs (1.2.1-2~wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf caja-common (1.2.1-1+wheezy testing [all])
Conf caja (1.2.1-1+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf engrampa-common (1.2.1-1+wheezy testing [all])
Conf engrampa (1.2.1-1+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf eom-common (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [all])
Conf eom (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf libmatenotify (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf mate-dialogs (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf libmarco (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf marco-common (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [all])
Conf marco (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf libmatecomponent (1.2.1-1~wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf libmate-common (1.2.0-2~wheezy testing [all])
Conf libmate (1.2.0-2~wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf libmatecanvas (1.2.0-2~wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf libmatecomponentui (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf libmatekbd (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf libmatemenu (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf mate-menus (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf libmatepanelapplet (1.2.1-3+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf libmateweather-common (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [all])
Conf libmateweather (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf mate-desktop-common (1.2.0-3+wheezy testing [all])
Conf mate-desktop (1.2.0-3+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf libmatepolkit (1.2.0-4+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf mate-polkit (1.2.0-4+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf mate-panel-common (1.2.1-3+wheezy testing [all])
Conf mate-panel (1.2.1-3+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf libmatesensorsappletplugin (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf libmateui (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf mate-applets-common (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [all])
Conf mate-applets (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf mate-backgrounds (1.2.1-1+wheezy testing [all])
Conf mate-calc (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf mate-conf-editor (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf mate-settings-daemon-common (1.2.0-4+wheezy testing [all])
Conf mate-settings-daemon-gstreamer (1.2.0-4+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf mate-settings-daemon (1.2.0-4+wheezy testing [all])
Conf mate-control-center (1.2.1-5+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf mate-netspeed (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf mate-sensors-applet (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf mate-system-tools (1.2.2-1+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf mate-utils (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf python-mate-menu (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf mozo (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [all])
Conf ffmpegthumbnailer-caja (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [all])
Conf mate-keyring (1.2.1-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf mate-media (1.2.1-3+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf mate-notification-daemon (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf mate-power-manager-common (1.2.1-2+wheezy testing [all])
Conf mate-power-manager (1.2.1-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf mate-window-manager (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [all])
Conf mate-session-manager (1.2.0-3+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf mate-screensaver (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf mate-system-monitor (1.2.1-3+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf mate-terminal-common (1.2.1-2+wheezy testing [all])
Conf mate-terminal (1.2.1-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf mate-text-editor (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf mate-themes (1.2.2-1+wheezy testing [all])
Conf mate-core (1.2.2+wheezy testing [all])
Conf mate-desktop-environment (1.2.2+wheezy testing [all])
Conf mate-indicator-applet (1.2.0-4+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf python-corba (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf python-mate (1.2.0-3+wheezy testing [amd64])
Conf python-mate-desktop (1.2.0-2+wheezy testing [amd64])

(With debian.org still pinned at 100 because with the same apt-pinning as linuxmint.com it wants to upgrade almost 500 pkgs.)
Should I leave X for a "wet-run"?

[zerozero]

i was asking you above to try the dry-run with debian.org at 500 just to see if those pkgs had any dep.

this last output (with the dist-upgrade) is with the tridex repo? if so, it makes sense, you are upgrading ALL mate to a newer v.

Should I leave X for a "wet-run"?

well it's up to you, imo is overkilling you are just updating a DE.

[äxl]

i was asking you above to try the dry-run with debian.org at 500 just to see if those pkgs had any dep.

The "(with the dry-run switch ofc )" irritated me. But all is well.

this last output (with the dist-upgrade) is with the tridex repo? if so, it makes sense, you are upgrading ALL mate to a newer v.

No, it's with the mate-desktop.org repo. Which else is there?

well it's up to you, imo is overkilling you are just updating a DE.

Should I leave the DE? (I need to leave X then to install or not?)

[zerozero]

ofc = of course

i think it's safe to update a DE with the DE running; i always do it with kde (and it's quiet often without issues, ofc you should logout/restart after)

[äxl]

ofc = of course

Seriously, I thought that was a typo. With switch off or with switch of course.

But there's too much server load I will wait till tomorrow.

[zerozero]

how could you imagine that a moderator would advise a dangerous action?

[äxl]

:shock: how could you imagine that a moderator would advise a dangerous action?

I don't know you that well.

[äxl]

I've done did it. Rebooted. Everything smooth so far. (First thing I noticed is that Caja doesn't dies by first touch. And I had to set Sensors Applet Preferences anew. But no problem.)

<span size="large" weight="bold">Incompatible sensors
configuration found</span>

Unfortunately the previous configuration for MATE Sensors
Applet is not compatible with this version. The existing
sensors data will be overwritten with the default values for
this new version.

[zerozero]

I've done did it. Rebooted. Everything smooth so far.

cool

[bdantas]

I've upgraded my LMDE laptop to UP4 and have installed MATE. I'm very impressed with the advanced state of MATE 1.2 and it has become almost indistinguishable from Gnome2. Congratulations to Perberos, Stefano, and the rest of the team for MATE having been chosen to be the default DE for the Linux Mint iso!

Just two small issues/requests regarding MATE on LMDE:

1-I noticed there is no caja-dropbox package in any of the Debian repos (I looked in LMDE latest, packages.mate-desktop.org/repo/debian, Debian testing, and Debian unstable repos). Are there plans to package caja-dropbox for Debian/LMDE?

2-When I'd print in Gnome2, a print manager applet would show up on the panel. When I print in LMDE/MATE, there are no notifications of any kind. Is there (or are there plans to develop) a print manager applet (or at least printing-related notifications) for mate-panel?

[lurkatron]

does mate work with compiz/emerald? and does it work with gtk3 apps?

[xpander]

does mate work with compiz/emerald? and does it work with gtk3 apps?

yes it does with all u named here.