The 12.04 Betas

[KBD47]

Just playing around with both the Kubuntu and Ubuntu 12.04 2nd betas this morning. I was kind of impressed that Ubuntu seemed pretty solid at this point. It also was fairly zippy on my netbook, though I think it was in 2D. Never gonna love the hidden menues, that will just never cut it with me. The user is expected to know what he/she wants when you click on that menu tab to search. I think everything else is 'livable' if it were not for that great obstacle. Still, I think Ubuntu is a good, solid base, and I may try installing MATE onto it to see if it can be made useful.
Kubuntu was a bit sluggish and buggy. And I really dislike the slate gray theme. I hope when Mint gets its hands on Kubuntu in the future it will liven it up a bit. I will say that I've never seen Kubuntu's fonts look as good out of the box as they do in this version, and despite the dull color/theme it has a polished look to it.
Hopefully the Ubuntu base will be as solid as it feels upon first impression so that Mint 13 will have a great base next month to build on
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[tdockery97]

I spent a good deal of time with Kubuntu 12.04, from Alpha on through the Betas, and was pretty impressed. I found that it ran well on my hardware, including flawless installation of the ATI proprietary driver, so I didn't really notice any lags in performance. I think Mint 13 KDE will have a good solid base in Kubuntu 12.04.

[rekik]

Xubuntu 12.04 beta2 is also incredibility stable ans well polished. This LTS will be great (as 10.04 but unlike 8.04 IMHO)

[KBD47]

I spent a good deal of time with Kubuntu 12.04, from Alpha on through the Betas, and was pretty impressed. I found that it ran well on my hardware, including flawless installation of the ATI proprietary driver, so I didn't really notice any lags in performance. I think Mint 13 KDE will have a good solid base in Kubuntu 12.04.

I didn't run the updates on the beta, it may have ran better with those. There were over 500 updates to the Ubuntu beta
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[KBD47]

Xubuntu 12.04 beta2 is also incredibility stable ans well polished. This LTS will be great (as 10.04 but unlike 8.04 IMHO)

Really like Xubuntu, you can always count on it to be solid

[KBD47]

In another universe, where Ubuntu remains a sane desktop
http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh5 ... 112304.png
Seriously, I hope those who have been using Lucid and hate Unity will find MATE. It can make Ubuntu sane again. It's a bit of work, just follow instructions on the MATE web site. I tweaked it a bit with Faenza icons. Had to install mate-notifier-daemon. Had to add gdebi and synaptic package manager, gparted, restriced extras, banshee. Of course it is much easider just to use Mint and get all of the above, and without the overlay scrollbars
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[freestyle]

Random question guys, should I update from Ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04?? I'm fairly new to Ubuntu and am liking it quite a bit. I dual boot ubuntu and osx lion on my mbp. I've got the wireless working, upgraded to kernel 3.2 and I havent really had any problems yet. I used that refit utility as my bootloader to choose between the different os's when I turn on my computer. Is there any big difference between ubuntu 11.10 and the 12.04LTS? Or should I just stick with 11.10?? I'm new to Ubuntu and new to Linux but I took a class this semester and fairly like it in general so I been using Fedora 16, Mint 12 and now Ubuntu. I dont mind being adventerous though, as if theres something major I can get out of 12.0 4LTS thats not in 11.10 I wouldn't mind throwing that on here and taking off 11.10. Just wasn't sure if it was really worthwhile to do that or not, or if 11.10 and 12.04LTS or pretty much the same.

[KBD47]

I have to take back everything I said about the Ubuntu 12.04 beta2. Either it did not like the MATE desktop, or it is just plane buggy. Same problem on both the full install to a usb stick and a full install to my old desktop computer--kept freezing up and only restarting would unfreeze it.
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[dagon]

Been fiddling with ubuntustudio who has switched from Gnome to Xfce and it's been a pleasure. I've only tried it live so far so I'm really curious to do a full install. I'm going for something more stable now.

[tdockery97]

Is there any big difference between ubuntu 11.10 and the 12.04LTS? Or should I just stick with 11.10?? I'm new to Ubuntu and new to Linux but I took a class this semester and fairly like it in general so I been using Fedora 16, Mint 12 and now Ubuntu. I dont mind being adventerous though, as if theres something major I can get out of 12.0 4LTS thats not in 11.10 I wouldn't mind throwing that on here and taking off 11.10. Just wasn't sure if it was really worthwhile to do that or not, or if 11.10 and 12.04LTS or pretty much the same.

There is a big difference regarding Long Term Support. Ubuntu/Kubuntu 12.04 will be supported for 5 years. The other derivatives (Xubuntu/Lubuntu) will continue to be supported for only 3 years.

[memilanuk]

The other derivatives (Xubuntu/Lubuntu) will continue to be supported for only 3 years.

Yeah... that is kind of a bummer. Here I was starting to get kind of excited about 12.04, figuring I'd re-install on my 3.5 yr old laptop with Lubuntu with the plan that 5 years should easily last til EOL on this machine, only to find out that Xubuntu/Lubuntu 12.04 are *not* going to be LTS releases.

Still, at the rate this machine has been going, three years might see it dead yet

[KBD47]

Actually, Lubuntu is not LTS. Evidently they don't have the manpower to support an LTS release. Xubuntu is three years though, too bad it's not five, but three is not too bad. I installed Xubuntu 12.04 2nd beta on my computer tonight and as always Xubuntu never lets me down, very solid. I think I'm giving up on main Ubuntu altogether though. 11.10 broke on me as well, lost the entire desktop. By the end of the day Ubuntu 12.04 was so messed up I had to wipe it off of my drive.
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[tdockery97]

I plan to continue running Kubuntu 12.04 alongside my Mint Debian KDE so that I can have the best of Debian and Ubuntu base to work with as the mood strikes me. Both are working perfectly on my HP laptop.

[KBD47]

I plan to continue running Kubuntu 12.04 alongside my Mint Debian KDE so that I can have the best of Debian and Ubuntu base to work with as the mood strikes me. Both are working perfectly on my HP laptop.

I've got a Mint Debian KDE install I'm quite pleased with. I was impressed with Mint 12 KDE as well.

[wayne128]

tried ubuntu beta2, twice refused to install, hangs forever

tried xubuntu, installed ok.
once reboot, within 2 minutes a reported crash
tried to send report it refused
anyway, updating 400+ packages now.. may be crash got resolved after update..

at least one thing nice:
thunar 1.2.3 with xfce4.8 work out of the box on browsing network share

second nice thing: sound works, media playing all works
at least I do not have to remove pulseaudio like in LMDE-gnome and LMDE201204-rc iso...waste time to be bother on sound issues...

[KBD47]

I had a few crashes with Xubuntu right before the updates, now it's fine though. I think Xubuntu looks a bit nicer this time around. I like how the dock at the bottom is clear and the top panel is black now.

[wayne128]

I had a few crashes with Xubuntu right before the updates, now it's fine though. I think Xubuntu looks a bit nicer this time around. I like how the dock at the bottom is clear and the top panel is black now.

OK, i m back after 400+ updates
yes, no crash so far.. updates must have solved those old issues

now trying virtualbox and see if it works.

dock at bottom is still there in my installation, mouse over at the bottom to see it pops up, it was just hidden. and it is easy to configure xfce panel to hide...

[KBD47]

I also like Xubuntu's new settings manager. Put Faenza Icons on it and Xubuntu rocks this time

[wayne128]

OK, virtualbox works..

time to play more..

[cwwgateway]

I REALLY love the look of Xubuntu 12.04. I was going to install the new LMDE (with UP 4) XFCE on my old Gateway desktop, but I'm tempted to use Xubuntu 12.04.