Oracle JDK7

[aloysius]

Hello,
will a binary downloader for the JDK7 installer will ever be included with LM?
I mean something like this.

[overthetop]

I may be missing the point, but isn't the JDK in the repositories already? I'm not sure if its version 7, but I do know that openJDK-7 is available.

[hinto]

^ it is.
-Hinto

[rekik]

OpenJDK-7 is indeed in the repositories, but I think that alyoisius meant the Oracle one, which AFAIK is no longer present in the repos after an Oracle decision.

[hinto]

According to:
http://weblogs.java.net/blog/robogeek/archive/2009/01/it_will_be_open.html
OpenJDK 7 == JDK 7 (for the most part)
I doubt any typical user/developer could tell a difference.
-Hinto

[rekik]

According to:
http://weblogs.java.net/blog/robogeek/archive/2009/01/it_will_be_open.html
OpenJDK 7 == JDK 7 (for the most part)
I doubt any typical user/developer could tell a difference.
-Hinto

Good new. As a simple user, I have switched to OpenJDK for months and my Java applications run smoothly

[hinto]

^ as a Java developer, that's all I use.
-H

[aloysius]

Problem is the browser plugin stinks to high heavens and it's not a setup consistent with other platforms anyway.

Now, since Mint is not usually averse to binaries, I wondered if this could be included as an option.

[hinto]

^Not sure what you mean by that. Can you be more specific?
-H

[aloysius]

^Not sure what you mean by that. Can you be more specific?
-H

I mean that icedtea-plugin (the one suggested by openjdk-7-jre) has lots of problems.

[hinto]

^ which are?
-H

[aloysius]

^ which are?
-H

I've encountered several applets that consume significant CPU% or more often don't work at all.

[hinto]

Do you have any links.
I haven't had any problems with java (and the plug-in which just uses the installed jvm).
...And I've been using and developing in openJDK 6 and 7 since they came on the scene.
I have found that I can write bad code in any language. Rarely is it the fault of the language.
-H

[aloysius]

I haven't kept track of them, but I remember it was annoying enough to the sun-java packages.
I guess I'll have to keep using the PPA.

[hinto]

I haven't really seen it.
I'd think others would post about it, too.
There's still enough momentum behind Java (and OpenJDK) that if there problems, people find them and fix them.
Whether they are in the JVM or in the Java Application or in the Java Applet.
I'd also even go so far to say that if there is a misbehaved applet or application, then the problem is with the applet/application, not the runtime. The JVM, for the most part has been pretty stable since 1.4
-H

[aloysius]

If it was really fully compatible it should also run badly written stuff (which could very well be the case, by the way).

[hinto]

^Without an example it's only speculation.
-H

[aloysius]

^Without an example it's only speculation.
-H

What difference would it make anyway? Could you force the author of a badly written applet to correct it?

My point is that as there used to be sun-java binary packages, there could be an oracle one.

[hinto]

The point is there is no need if the Debian OpenJDK packages are equivalent to the Oracle packages, which the documentation states that they are.
-Hinto