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Re: LMDE (Tracking SID) - BREAKAGES - Apr 18

Postby craigevil on Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:53 pm

dcihon wrote:My Cinnamon is crashing on startup.
I was in XFCE and added to autostart Conky and Wally.
I then booted into Cinnamon and it crashes and won't start. All I can do is logout.
I went back into XFCE and took out those 2 start up items I added and it still crashes.
Is there any log files that I can look at to see what is going on during startup?
Thanks
Dan

Also thank for the responses on my previous question. I am just rolling right along with LMDE. Up to date in SID.


Look in /var/log/
Xorg.0.log
kernel
whichever DM you use gdm/gdm3/lightdm/kdm etc will have a log
in your /home .xsession-errors

The free radeon driver in sid broke X for me, had to downgrade to the version in Testing. X would crash as soon as KDE or Openbox finished loading.

Also ruby-locale installed today and broke apt-listbugs.
Bug#662983: When called by aptitude, apt-listbugs crash and precludes th : http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs ... 14120.html
Note the only way to get apt-get working again if you have apt-listbugs installed is to remove it.
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dpkg -r apt-listbugs libgettext-ruby1.8 liblocale-ruby1.8 ruby-locale
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Re: LMDE (Tracking SID) - BREAKAGES - Apr 18

Postby xircon on Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:10 pm

Dan, create another user - can that user boot Cinnamon? You aren't loading compiz in you xfce session are you??

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Re: LMDE (Tracking SID) - BREAKAGES - Apr 18

Postby dcihon on Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:10 am

Xircon,
Creating another user works. So it is something corrupt with my user.
Is there a way to track this down and fix it?
Is it worth it?
Should I just start moving my corrupt user info a little over at a time to rebuild all of the setting I have set?

Also I was using Compiz at one time but I turned it off in Startup.

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Re: LMDE (Tracking SID) - BREAKAGES - Apr 18

Postby xircon on Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:56 pm

I would start by emptying your /home/youruser/.config/autostart to another location and then move them back one by one, logout or reboot - sounds tedious I know.

You are sure compiz isn't loading from somewhere? Really sounds like compiz to me. Try:

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sudo updatedb
locate compiz.desktop


Think that should work.

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Re: LMDE (Tracking SID) - BREAKAGES - Apr 18

Postby dcihon on Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:44 pm

Xircon,
I renamed the autostart folder and made a new blank one.
Logged out and back in. It still crashed.
Compiz was in there but since I renamed it , it should not be causing a problem.

I did get a dialog box that said:
Your session only lasted less than 10 seconds.
It said some other things also. I didn't want to type all that out here unless you need it.
There was a "View Details" check box which I checked.

The file listed was ~/.xsession-errors file
I don't know where this file is located.
I scrolled through some of the lines. Several of them began with
cinnamon: 18014 and said
GTK-WARNING * * theme parsing error: gtk-widget.css:60:16 not using units is depricated assuming 'px' -

Hope this helps. It's way over my head at this point.
Ready to learn something new everyday.
Thanks
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Re: LMDE (Tracking SID) - BREAKAGES - Apr 18

Postby xircon on Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:00 pm

File is hidden in you home directory. Press ctrl+h or view hidden files from the menu in your file manager. Post the contents here if not to large (or use pastebin if it is). Off to bed on an early shift tomorrow :(

or gedit .xsession-errors to view night!
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Re: LMDE (Tracking SID) - BREAKAGES - Apr 18

Postby dcihon on Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:34 pm

xircon,
Here it is:
I don't see anything about cinnamon. Maybe because I booted to XFCE.
Looks like I have other issues however.

http://pastebin.com/TX7w41p9
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Re: LMDE (Tracking SID) - BREAKAGES - Apr 18

Postby GregE on Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:06 pm

dcihon wrote:xircon,
Here it is:
I don't see anything about cinnamon. Maybe because I booted to XFCE.
Looks like I have other issues however.

http://pastebin.com/TX7w41p9


Dan, I offer this solution as a last resort - for when everything else has failed. You stated above that creating a new user works so we can assume that your system is functioning correctly and it is your local config that is the culprit.

Reboot
Select the second item from boot screen - recovery
Wait til it asks for admin password and enter it
sudo apt-get install mc to install Midnight Commander
Remember you are running as root so be careful.
mc
From Midnight Commander rename your /home/xircon folder to /home/xircon.sav1
then from Midnight Commander create a new home folder with the same name as your old one eg /home/xircon
With the new folder highlighted press F9 from inside Midnight Commander then File and then select Chown and make ownership of the folder to xircon. Both the first and second columns - Username and Groupname - then select Set

Then restart and log into your new blank setup with the same username as you have always used.

All the files in /home/xircon.sav1 still have ownership to xircon so you can systematically move all you music, documents, videos etc from the old xircon to the new one without any issue as you still "own" them. Just use Nautilus with the second pane active and drag and drop or just use Cut and Paste in Thunar or open a terminal and run mc and use your new skills in Midnight Commander.

You do not need to use Midnight Commander - you can just use the command line to rename, create and change ownership. But by using Midnight Commander you have a great file system toolbox to use without having to remember all the syntax.

:)

NOTE: If you use Firefox and Thunderbird then move the .mozilla folder from your saved user to your new one to recover your email and favorites. Carefully look in .local and .config and move across any config you want back in to you new home. Stick to application configs and leave out anything Xfce or Gnome as we do not want to import the problem.

For anyone else this technique is handy in upgrades. If you have a separate /home partition then you can rename your home folder, do a reinstall or a new version install and name your user the same as before - and then just move all your music, docs, videos into the new home folder with ownership already correctly set while at the same time all the system configs are correct for the new system

EDIT: these should do the trick if you do not use Midnight Commander

mv /home/xircon /home/xircon.sav1

mkdir /home/xircon

chown xircon:xircon /home/xircon
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Re: LMDE (Tracking SID) - BREAKAGES - Apr 18

Postby GregE on Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:37 pm

I just did an upgrade and the system reports to be Gnome 3.4, but the Shell is still 3.2. Will not be long now.
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Re: LMDE (Tracking SID) - BREAKAGES - Apr 18

Postby GeneC on Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:47 pm

Yes.. :)

Lots of Gnome 3.4 has been coming in

Gnome-session this morning.

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Commit Log for Wed Apr 25 06:40:47 2012


Upgraded the following packages:
gir1.2-polkit-1.0 (0.104-2) to 0.105-1
gir1.2-telepathyglib-0.12 (0.18.1-1) to 0.18.1-2
gir1.2-vte-2.90 (1:0.32.0-2) to 1:0.32.1-1
gnome-session (3.2.1-1) to 3.4.1-1
gnome-session-bin (3.2.1-1) to 3.4.1-1
gnome-session-common (3.2.1-1) to 3.4.1-1
gnome-session-fallback (3.2.1-1) to 3.4.1-1
gtk3-engines-unico (1.0.1-1) to 1.0.2-1
libpolkit-agent-1-0 (0.104-2) to 0.105-1
libpolkit-backend-1-0 (0.104-2) to 0.105-1
libpolkit-gobject-1-0 (0.104-2) to 0.105-1
libslang2 (2.2.4-8) to 2.2.4-9
libtelepathy-glib0 (0.18.1-1) to 0.18.1-2
libvte-2.90-9 (1:0.32.0-2) to 1:0.32.1-1
libvte-2.90-common (1:0.32.0-2) to 1:0.32.1-1
libwxbase2.8-0 (2.8.12.1-7) to 2.8.12.1-8
libwxgtk2.8-0 (2.8.12.1-7) to 2.8.12.1-8
libxtst6 (2:1.2.0-4) to 2:1.2.1-1
libxv1 (2:1.0.6-2) to 2:1.0.7-1
libxvmc1 (2:1.0.6-1) to 2:1.0.7-1
lsb-base (4.1+Debian1) to 4.1+Debian2
lsb-core (4.1+Debian1) to 4.1+Debian2
lsb-release (4.1+Debian1) to 4.1+Debian2
lsb-security (4.1+Debian1) to 4.1+Debian2
lsof (4.81.dfsg.1-1.1) to 4.86+dfsg-1
nautilus-actions (3.1.4-1) to 3.2.2-1
policykit-1 (0.104-2) to 0.105-1


Gnome-Shell is still 3.2 though.
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gene@zordon:~$ apt-cache policy gnome-shell
gnome-shell:
  Installed: 3.2.2.1-3
  Candidate: 3.2.2.1-3
  Version table:
 *** 3.2.2.1-3 0
        500 http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status


Status of Gnome 3.4 in Debian

http://www.0d.be/debian/debian-gnome-3.4-status.html

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'zerozero' mentioned that we should have no troubles with Cinnamon until =

Re: At what point will Gnome 3.4 break Cinnamon?
by zerozero on Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:01 pm

hy
watch out for clutter, any version above 1.8.x breaks all cinnamon available atm http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/?p=182#comment-2090
well, not exactly Glebihan has nightly builds for precise (gnome3.4 and clutter 1.9.x) and they are working fine (it's the early work for maya) viewtopic.php?f=214&t=98187#p562528


viewtopic.php?f=198&t=98863&start=0
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Re: LMDE (Tracking SID) - BREAKAGES - Apr 18

Postby wayne128 on Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:51 pm

Just set up a new partition, starting from LMDE201204 xfce release iso.
change repos to Debian sid, du..

First time notice LMDE-xfce had both xfce and gnome :mrgreen:

anyway, saw gnome 3.4.1 in system
and
wayne@lmde32x201204 ~ $ apt-cache policy gnome-shell
gnome-shell:
Installed: 3.2.2.1-3
Candidate: 3.2.2.1-3
Version table:
*** 3.2.2.1-3 0
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Re: LMDE (Tracking SID) - BREAKAGES - Apr 18

Postby wayne128 on Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:00 pm

well, try play some media files.

vlc Installed: 2.0.1-4 seem to have some oops:
with avi, it is ok with sound and video
with flv, no sound but ok with video
with mkv, sound, video both ok
with rmbv, no sound, video ok..
mp3, sound ok.
mp4, video ok, sound, hmmm, takes a while, may be 10-15 seconds, then sound started..
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Re: LMDE (Tracking SID) - BREAKAGES - Apr 18

Postby dcihon on Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:06 am

GregE,
Took your suggestion.
Rebuilding my home folder now.
This is a good exercise in learning how my system works. Although painful it is a good learning process.
I don't know if I will ever find what corrupted Cinnamon but maybe with what I learn I might be able to avoid it in the future.
Thanks to all for the help.
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Re: LMDE (Tracking SID) - BREAKAGES - Apr 18

Postby dcihon on Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:39 am

GregE,
Do I need to move the .cache folder over or is it something that gets filled as I use the computer?
Thanks
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Re: LMDE (Tracking SID) - BREAKAGES - Apr 18

Postby enito on Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:40 am

Hi, my first trouble with sid (im new in mint, but i like experiment with news packages)

my sources list:

## sid ##
deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import backport romeo
deb-src http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import backport romeo #Added by software-properties
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main non-free

##emerald

deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/shames/de ... /unstable/ ./


And i try to install docky,

apt-get install docky
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
docky : Depends: libgnomedesktop2.20-cil (>= 2.26.0) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libgtk2.0-cil (>= 2.12.10) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libnotify0.4-cil (>= 0.4.0~r2998) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: librsvg2-2.18-cil (>= 2.26.0) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libwnck2.20-cil (>= 2.26.0) but it is not going to be installed
Recommends: dockmanager but it is not installable
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.


thx!! 8)
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Re: LMDE (Tracking SID) - BREAKAGES - Apr 18

Postby GeneC on Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:15 am

Hi enito :)

Welcome to LMDE-SID

Yes, recent updates to mono (*.cil) remove (or prevent upgrading--in your case) some programs.
docky
tomboy
giver
pinta

I have removed all mono in one LMDE partition, but pinned the offending files ( libglib2.0-cil, libgtk2.0-cil) in another.


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The following packages will be REMOVED:
  docky giver libglade2.0-cil libgnome2.24-cil libgnomedesktop2.20-cil libgtk-sharp-beans-cil libgtk2.0-cil libmono-addins-gui0.2-cil libnotify0.4-cil librsvg2-2.18-cil libwnck2.20-cil pinta tomboy
The following packages will be upgraded:
  libglib2.0-cil
1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 13 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 187 kB of archives.
After this operation, 19.3 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? N


Your stuck, unless you want to pin those .cil packages. :?
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Re: LMDE (Tracking SID) - BREAKAGES - Apr 18

Postby enito on Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:23 am

HI thx for the tip,
and welcome ;)

i fixed using aptitude install donky
the first question y replyed N and say me replace some of this packages ubuntu version to debian version (new one) and donky worked ;)

apprently aptitude is a nice toool

greets

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Re: LMDE (Tracking SID) - BREAKAGES - Apr 18

Postby GeneC on Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:44 am

enito wrote:.............

apprently aptitude is a nice toool..........

greets

:mrgreen:


Yes, I just started using aptitude when a problem with dependencies arises, myself. :D
I like the 'choices' it gives you.
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Re: LMDE (Tracking SID) - BREAKAGES - Apr 18

Postby Gerd50 on Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:44 am

Todays du wants to remove ffmpeg, winff and libav-tools. If i understand it right ffmpeg and winff are replaced by
libav-tools. So this one is needed but there is an dependency issue with the updated libpostproc52. I have set it on
hold, now du seems to work.
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Re: LMDE (Tracking SID) - BREAKAGES - Apr 18

Postby GregE on Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:02 pm

dcihon wrote:GregE,
Do I need to move the .cache folder over or is it something that gets filled as I use the computer?
Thanks
Dan


Dan,

It just fills as you go, I have never seen any value in moving it in, and it could even be the source of the problems.

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