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Postby freesource on Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:01 pm

"
banshee will be removed with configuration
bluez-alsa will be removed with configuration
bluez-cups will be removed with configuration
avahi-daemon will be removed
avahi-utils will be removed
banshee-extension-soundmenu will be removed
bluez will be removed
gnome-bluetooth will be removed
gnome-tweak-tool will be removed
gnome-user-share will be removed
libnss-mdns will be removed
openssh-client will be removed
ssh-askpass-gnome will be removed
ssh-import-id (version 2.5-0ubuntu2) will be installed
unity (version 4.28.0-0ubuntu2) will be installed
gnome-shell (version 3.2.2.1-0ubuntu0.1) will be re-installed "

I want to remove everything that has and ever had with bluetooth to do. And the reason to openssh-client is removed is that i often felt like i connect to a remote server without knowing it(Iknow, it sound paranoid, but it is possible if it is someone i know) So is it a problem to to this action in synaptic?

Much of the packages will be removed because i remove some of the others, cant see why it asked to remove gnome-shell when i tried to only remove bluez? Have can you find out if rootkits are ok in linux?
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Re: Is it ok to remove this? Need fast answer, thanks!

Postby cwwgateway on Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:16 pm

I'm not quite sure what you're trying to do, but that doesn't look good. You're reinstalling gnome shell and installing unity, and that shouldn't happen. Rooktkits are never "ok," they're by definition harmful. You can theoretically get a rootkit, but I highly doubt that would happen, there really aren't any known rootkits for linux. If you really want to see if you have any install chrootkit or rootkit hunter (see here http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Oneiric#Rootkit_checkers). It also has firewalls and av tools, but again I don't see the point. I wouldn't remove these things because you seem to be removing a lot of important packages, although I don't see anything that would completely destroy your system. If you go through with that, though, I'm not responsible for what happens.
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Re: Is it ok to remove this? Need fast answer, thanks!

Postby Habitual on Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:18 pm

If it's not broken, don't fix it.
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Re: Is it ok to remove this? Need fast answer, thanks!

Postby freesource on Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:05 am

Habitual wrote:If it's not broken, don't fix it.


if its not broken i havent tried to fix it! What is with you guys and just answering what you mean before answering the question, and dont look at reinstalling gnome, look at what i plan to remove, and please dont answer if you really dont know it your self, you just like to chat!!

And by the way it is no problem running unity in mint, i have done it already. Please im not a fcking noob, i just dont know what every thing is, and iam understanding more and more that mint is a childish version of ubuntu!

The update is just a mess, and what is it with the logo's? And the standard colours? confused? Im sorry, but havent mint been around a few years? Shouldt this be a revolutinary mint version?

I know i make many of you pissed with this comments, myself too. But the truth is that is true. And the fact that nobody of you really thinks it is virus on linux is just(not worth commenting)

And worst of all is the network manager, it seems like it is downgraded from ubuntu to nubuntu or something :roll:
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Re: Is it ok to remove this? Need fast answer, thanks!

Postby nomko on Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:18 am

Looking at that list, you will definitally remove a lot of essential packages required by Gnome.

Which program you're using to remove it? Synaptic? Or is it a terminal command?
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Re: Is it ok to remove this? Need fast answer, thanks!

Postby freesource on Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:29 am

nomko wrote:Looking at that list, you will definitally remove a lot of essential packages required by Gnome.

Which program you're using to remove it? Synaptic? Or is it a terminal command?


I really just use synaptic, choose bluez(For bluetooth transfer etc) and ssh remote desktop client, and when i clicked ok it said i had to uninstall all that, i cant either understand why it is that much.. And why i had to remove gnome-shell to remove bluez ? :roll: :twisted:
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Re: Is it ok to remove this? Need fast answer, thanks!

Postby freesource on Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:33 am

And when i first have started whining, is it only me that have problems with the software manager? With problems i mean everytime i install something it dont appear that its installed inside "software manager" and the same when i remove.. I have to go out and in to see the change? Is that the same for everyone?
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Re: Is it ok to remove this? Need fast answer, thanks!

Postby nomko on Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:05 am

freesource wrote:I really just use synaptic, choose bluez(For bluetooth transfer etc) and ssh remote desktop client, and when i clicked ok it said i had to uninstall all that, i cant either understand why it is that much.. And why i had to remove gnome-shell to remove bluez ? :roll: :twisted:


The only reason i can think of is that bluez is a part of the gnome-shell. Removing a package which is a part of the gnome-shell will lead to removing the gnome shell itself.
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Re: Is it ok to remove this? Need fast answer, thanks!

Postby AlbertP on Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:19 am

Gnome Shell (as well as Cinnamon) depends on bluez because of the Bluetooth tray icon, which is not in a seperate bluetooth package but in gnome-shell itself.
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Re: Is it ok to remove this? Need fast answer, thanks!

Postby Monsta on Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:07 am

AlbertP wrote:Gnome Shell (as well as Cinnamon) depends on bluez because of the Bluetooth tray icon, which is not in a seperate bluetooth package but in gnome-shell itself.

I see there's already an issue about that, but there are no comments yet.
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Re: Is it ok to remove this? Need fast answer, thanks!

Postby freesource on Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:27 am

i runned rkhunter --enable all and got:

/usr/bin/unhide.rb [ Warning ]

and later:

Performing group and account checks
Checking for passwd file [ Found ]
Checking for root equivalent (UID 0) accounts [ None found ]
Checking for passwordless accounts [ None found ]
Checking for passwd file changes [ Warning ]
Checking for group file changes [ Warning ]
Checking root account shell history files [ None found ]

Performing system configuration file checks
Checking for SSH configuration file [ Not found ]
Checking for running syslog daemon [ Found ]
Checking for syslog configuration file [ Found ]
Checking if syslog remote logging is allowed [ Not allowed ]

Performing filesystem checks
Checking /dev for suspicious file types [ None found ]
Checking for hidden files and directories [ Warning ]

I dont understand what to think about it..

And chkrootkit:

Searching for suspicious files and dirs, it may take a while...
The following suspicious files and directories were found:
/usr/lib/libreoffice/basis3.4/program/.services.rdb /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/.path /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.26/.systemPrefs /usr/lib/jvm/.java-6-sun.jinfo
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Re: Is it ok to remove this? Need fast answer, thanks!

Postby nomko on Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:33 am

rkhunter has nothing to do with your first post here.
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Re: Is it ok to remove this? Need fast answer, thanks!

Postby Habitual on Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:38 am

freesource wrote:...What is with you guys...


Be careful not to offend people who volunteer their valuable free-time.

Thank you and Good Luck.
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Re: Is it ok to remove this? Need fast answer, thanks!

Postby freesource on Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:07 am

Habitual wrote:
freesource wrote:...What is with you guys...


Be careful not to offend people who volunteer their valuable free-time.

Thank you and Good Luck.


Yeah i know, and a BIG SORRY to all of you, it was without purpose i was tired, havent slept for some days and i have body pains++ But every time i ask a question on a forum online with people that can more than other they almost always start arguing around the question instead of around what can be the answer or try to read the question again to see what people really meant or tried to ask for, just with wrong words, that is at least what i do(But remember, some of us strugge just to find the right words in english, specially computer language and then linux at it all(And to top that up, hackers!)..

I was thinking about deleting that files to be sure the system isnt corrupt. Because it really seems like it(All since ive got hacked last time, but in windows) But at this network ++ i have had a lot of problems and are trying to figuring out if someone really are hacking me or if i have got a little extra paranoid after that. I know it happnend in windows, but here im really not sure what to see for..

When i do netstat i just get a lot of random info i cant handle at all, when i do "netstat | grep tcp" i only get the tcp connections.. Or "netstat | grep udp" But i really cant no more of commands that work anymore. Back in redhat i mean it was much easier commands(but it may just be me..)
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Re: Is it ok to remove this? Need fast answer, thanks!

Postby freesource on Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:11 am

nomko wrote:rkhunter has nothing to do with your first post here.



It was because a guy said i could use it so typed the output here and thinked maybe he could read it for me, can someone read it?


AGAIN; SORRY FOR THE COMMENTS EARLIER TO ALL OF YOU, I LOVE ALL OF YOU PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING FOR A FREE COMMUNITY
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Re: Is it ok to remove this? Need fast answer, thanks!

Postby Habitual on Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:52 am

It's all good. :)

As far as rkhunter goes...IF you have reason to suspect you ran a script with elevated privileges (root), then I'd install rkhunter, else there's not too much to worry about.

IF you are just exploring the "how do I do that in Linux" type of stuff (I gather from your other post viewtopic.php?f=90&t=100315&p=570660 that you are maybe new to Linux?)
then these types of questions are to be expected.

"If it's not broke, don't fix it" is a mantra that not only applies to Linux but everything, yes?

I'd be curious why you want to remove Bluetooth...there is very little risk in leaving unused programs on your Linux System.
They occupy far less room/disk space than their Windows counterparts.

Is is not better to have it on the system and not need it than need it and not have it?

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Re: Is it ok to remove this? Need fast answer, thanks!

Postby freesource on Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:15 am

Habitual wrote:It's all good. :)

As far as rkhunter goes...IF you have reason to suspect you ran a script with elevated privileges (root), then I'd install rkhunter, else there's not too much to worry about.

IF you are just exploring the "how do I do that in Linux" type of stuff (I gather from your other post viewtopic.php?f=90&t=100315&p=570660 that you are maybe new to Linux?)
then these types of questions are to be expected.

"If it's not broke, don't fix it" is a mantra that not only applies to Linux but everything, yes?


Yes it is:) Thanks for the link some interesting things

I'd be curious why you want to remove Bluetooth...there is very little risk in leaving unused programs on your Linux System.
They occupy far less room/disk space than their Windows counterparts.

Is is not better to have it on the system and not need it than need it and not have it?


I see at bluetooth at the biggest risk to get in for hacker e.g on a ubuntu system. Windows to for that matter. But it is an exploict that can be used very easily, and since ive got hacked without ethernet and with wifi of in bios im pretty sure he used bluetooth(my neigbour) that time, and then started wifi(since i cant "hard turn it off" just some silly visual unicorns!

That was the other computer, and now i cant get git in bios on this one since my old school had the password..

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Re: Is it ok to remove this? Need fast answer, thanks!

Postby Habitual on Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:21 am

public WIFIs are not secure!

This 'hack' happen on a Windows computer you had?
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Re: Is it ok to remove this? Need fast answer, thanks!

Postby freesource on Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:20 pm

Habitual wrote:public WIFIs are not secure!

This 'hack' happen on a Windows computer you had?


The hack happend on a windows computer the First time! And after that i have had several attempts of hacking in to my linux computer! Just right now my computer uploaded 3-4gbyte of data to an unknown place.. this have happend 3-4 maybe 5 times the last 2 weeks.. On linux.. But now iam logging(low) so if someone of you could help me read the log i would appreciate it, so maybe i can find out where the rainbows all the data goes.. Its not out on my internet, then its trough the wifi card(maybe up to my neighbours computer) i dont know, and i really dont know how to be sure of it.. But i know when i find out if it is a neighbor im gonna beat the f*** #!!"# out of him! Disrespecting little mfckr.. Ooh im angry!

But can somebody please help? It happend 10min ago now! So it fresh.. Heeelp :roll:
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Re: Is it ok to remove this? Need fast answer, thanks!

Postby Habitual on Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:27 pm

freesource wrote:
Habitual wrote:...attempts of hacking in to my linux computer! Just right now my computer uploaded 3-4gbyte of data to an unknown place....


You run any torrent software?
Have you checked your /var/logs/*?
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