After opening synaptic package manager I ran through my list of installed packages and whatnot before coming to those that could be upgraded. The Kernel and headers were the only things that suggested a newer version was available or that could be upgraded. I'm still using the original Kernal that came with my LinuxMint 4.0.iso
Should I? What can go wrong? Recommended? I just need a little info. With so many Kernal versions out there it's hard to know which I need.
Thanks.
Kernel Upgrade?
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Kernel Upgrade?
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Re: Kernel Upgrade?
paradigmX wrote:it essentially depends on your hardware, you should be ok to upgrade but sometime some hardware throws a fit with a different kernel. If you want a garantee you can read through some hardware compatability lists for the kernel version your upgrading to. But usually if your in the same "series"(ie. 2.2.xx, 2.4.xx, 2.6.xx) of kernel you'll have no problems.
Hello friend
I've read the post above (your answer) but the same happens to me here on Mint 4.0
My system is up to date according to minupdate. Well i open consola and type the commands
(as sudo with pass) apt-get update - ok, no problem
apt-get upgrade
here it comes
Kernel and headers to update but it seems the kernel is the same 2.6.22.14 generic oct/14
Wanna continue, and i said NO because de tool in charge of checking says nothing to me
I know Ubuntu updates the kernel to 2.6.22.51 and following as you said Ubuntu might see
the possibilities of doing that and did. No problem but I do not run Ubuntu no more
Ubuntu 7.10 is heavy-weight desktop
I just want to say that i expect a message from mintUpdate to perform such a task
If not, i will not do
In short, maybe i would not bring any harm to the system. At this time i think it's not necessary
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Rob
Re-editing the post:
Well, i woud like to try and i tried by my own risk
It was done through APT
linux-headers 2.6.22.14-generic
linux-image 2.6.22.14-restricted-modules-2.6.22.14
linux restricted-modules 2.6.22.14 common xserver-xorg-core
gutsy -running depmod
I was not requested to restart the sytem eventhough -central-alt-backspace to restart X
and everything was OK!
I may confess i didn't noticed any difference before and after
Same kernel 2.6.22.14
Yesterday evening runnung apt again
linux-headers-2.6.22.14-generic
linux-image-2.6.22.14-generic
gutsy -running depmod
installed
linux-headers-2.6.22.14 (2.6.22.14.52)...
roberto@roberto-desktop:~$ sudo uname -a
[sudo] password for roberto:
Linux roberto-desktop 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Feb 12 07:42:25 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
roberto@roberto-desktop:~$ exit
The system is alright and i didn't noticed difference before and after
Anyway i believe some kinda improvements might be done
my hardware: Pentium 4 - 2.40ghz - 512mg ram - vídeocard NVidia ge force
I connect to the internet by pppoeconf - my provider needs authentication
login and passaword. Once pppoeconf was configured - terminal - my connection
never fail. I can turn the modem off - turn the modem on and no problem
Saludos -Saudações
Rob
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Re: Kernel Upgrade?
It might be useful to newbies like myself if mintUpdate crossreferenced one's personal hardware with the compatibility list and provided a safe option to upgrade to a newer kernel. Just a thought.
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Re: Kernel Upgrade?
An old truth:
If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
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Re: Kernel Upgrade?
Ok guys, here's the skinny on kernel upgrades. If you have any custom modules compiled against your current kernel (i.e., nvidia or ATI's fglrx drivers, wireless drivers, VMware modules, or any other custom modules...) these will have to be recompiled if you install a new kernel. It is possible that modules will still function with a new kernel if modifications were very slight. The kernel is typically patched and then updated for security reasons. A distribution (including Mint) will typically not offer an entirely new kernel as an upgrade (but may do so in its repositories as an option - Mint doesn't do this.) Personally, I install kernel upgrades, but then again, I know which modules I need to recompile afterwards. If you're not comfortable recompiling your video drivers or other custom modules then I don't recommend you install kernel updates. This is why Clem developed Mintupdate. With the old Ubuntu update manager, all updates were installed regardless of the consequences. With Mintupdate, you can be smarter and choose not to install updates that you can't recover from should something go wrong. Truth be told, the chances of someone hacking your workstation via a kernel exploit is so remote you'd have a better chance of winning the lottery. Like Zwopper said: If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
Re: Kernel Upgrade?
Thanks all. I'll hold back then.
I suppose the Mint 5 edition will have a newer Kernel by default anyways, right? If so, why not wait until then to upgrade.
I suppose the Mint 5 edition will have a newer Kernel by default anyways, right? If so, why not wait until then to upgrade.
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Absolutely right!zeller wrote:Thanks all. I'll hold back then.
I suppose the Mint 5 edition will have a newer Kernel by default anyways, right? If so, why not wait until then to upgrade.
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Re: Kernel Upgrade?
You can use whatever kernel you like. I use the server kernel myself as I have 4 GB of RAM. The key is consistency. You will want to ensure that you replace your normal kernel and ancillary items with the -rt variants - tit for tat. Here's what I would install:prinssimikko wrote:I've been thinking about similar issues. When i started to experiment with Linux i installed Ubuntu Studio, which had real-time kernel to enable more efficien audio editing. Now that i'm settled down with Mint, i was wondering if it is possible to have the same real-time capabilities?
i search synaptic with "real time" but the result was so confusing that i didnt dare to install anything...
also google gave me some extremely technical developer stuff...
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linux-image-2.6.22-14-rt
linux-image-rt
linux-rt
linux-headers-2.6.22-14-rt
linux-headers-rt
linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-rt
linux-restricted-modules-rt
linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-rt
linux-backports-modules-2.6.22-14-rt
linux-backports-modules-rt
...and any dependencies for the above!
When you reboot your machine, choose the -rt kernel instead of your current one and you'll be all set! If something goes wrong, your original kernel is still there. If you like the new kernel, you can always modify the boot menu later to make it the default (I can assist with that) or you can simply remove the original kernel and ancillary items leaving the -rt variant in its place. Good luck!
Re: Kernel Upgrade?
cmost: can you give a step by step of this for those of us who don't know how to do what you're stating? I count myself as one of those.
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