usb usr dialup/no gnomeppp in mint12

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Re: usb usr dialup/no gnomeppp in mint12

Postby pbrane on Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:31 pm

I was referring to the permissions section of that link. However after looking it over again I think this would be better:

Add the user (your grand-daughter I assume) to the dialout and dip groups. I'm not that familiar with mint 12 but I'll try to walk you through it. Using your menus find Users and Groups, probably under Administration. In that box there should be a list containing user(s) names. Select the one you want to add to the groups. Click on the Manage Groups button below that list. Scroll down to the groups dialout and dip, click on one for now and then click the Properties button to the right. Select or check the user name you want to add. Then click okay. Do that for both groups. Should be good to go now. Let us know how it goes.

BTW at some point in this process you may be asked for your password to gain administrative privileges.
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Re: usb usr dialup/no gnomeppp in mint12

Postby MickeySoume on Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:17 pm

Using MATE, I found "Administration", but not "Users and Groups". Using Gnome desktop, I searched for Users and Groups, but all there was was a folder with a omf file that says:

<omf><resource><creator>Joey Hess, Colin Watson, David Mandelberg</creator><title>Users and Groups in the Debian System</title><date>2011-11-01</date><subject category="System"/><description>Descriptions of important system users and groups in Debian.</description><format mime="text/html"/><identifier url="/usr/share/doc/base-passwd/users-and-groups.html"/><language code="C"/><relation seriesid="c67c6ae0-ee65-40cf-a8f9-47b40c5890f7"/></resource></omf>


Nothing to edit, nowhere to change anything. Man, I'm lost. Another whole day gone by and I'm no farther than I was yesterday. I KNOW there's just one or two stupid things I have to vchange to make it all work, it DOES dial out, it DOES connect to my ISP!!! (They probably think I'm nuts, on and off over and over.) Tomorrow my son goes back to the college so he's going to get me 2 more copies to try. pena and Zorin. MAYBE one of THOSE will work for me "out of the box"?

Dialup sux and I hate living in BFE for this reason, but it sure is nice looking out every window in my house and seeing green woods! (See? There's a bright side to everything!) :D I'm still open to any suggestions and of course I will keep trying!

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Re: usb usr dialup/no gnomeppp in mint12

Postby pbrane on Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:22 pm

Looks like you need to use the terminal. Open a terminal and type this:
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sudo gpasswd -a [the username here] dialout
sudo gpasswd -a [the username here] dip


where [the username here] is the user you want to add to the groups, without the brackets. sudo will prompt you for your password.

Sorry, I'm not sure how Linux Mint 12 menu is laid out. This should give you permission to run pppd from your user account.
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Re: usb usr dialup/no gnomeppp in mint12

Postby MickeySoume on Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:16 pm

It added them just fine, but when I dial, I still get:

PPP negotiation detected. --> Unable to run /usr/sbin/pppd
Check permissions, or specify a "PPPD Path" option in wvdial.conf

I'm lost.
I need to quit for today.

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Re: usb usr dialup/no gnomeppp in mint12

Postby pbrane on Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:53 am

You mentioned that your wvdial.conf had PPPD yes in it. That doesn't sound right to me after looking at the man page for the config file. It should be the path to pppd or left out altogether. I would remove that option for now or change it to read /usr/sbin/pppd

http://linux.die.net/man/5/wvdial.conf

EDIT:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/SetUpDialer?action=show&redirect=Wvdial
I read this link again and noticed that there is info about using the built-in NetworkAdmin to configure a ppp connection. Have you looked at it? It may save some time as they say gnome-ppp is an alternate approach. Also there is a section called "Troubles" that indicate you have to run gnome-ppp as root the first time to get it to write the config files.
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Re: usb usr dialup/no gnomeppp in mint12

Postby MickeySoume on Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:48 am

I thought that too, and changed it to read just that, /usr/sbin/pppd , but it still did not work. I'll be fighting with it all day again today! LOL

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Re: usb usr dialup/no gnomeppp in mint12

Postby MickeySoume on Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:55 am

Here's another thing, I want to use linux on THIS computer, (mine) and I was using her Acer Aspire to "test" with. I now have to swap HDDs back and forth to test this machine with because of the 4.4/4.6 error. It'd be nice if I could uninstall the 4.6 version from her machine and continue using it to test with instead of this one.

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Re: usb usr dialup/no gnomeppp in mint12

Postby pbrane on Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:59 am

Have you tried
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sudo apt-get purge libuniconf4.4


You should do a
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ls -la /var/lib/dpkg/info/

to make sure of the exact name of the postrm file for libuniconf4.4

if that won't work then try
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sudo echo ‘exit 0′ >/var/lib/dpkg/info/libuniconf4.4.postrm


After that you should be able to sudo apt-get purge libuniconf again.

Of course all this assumes you installed libuniconf4.4 as a deb file
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Re: usb usr dialup/no gnomeppp in mint12

Postby MickeySoume on Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:39 am

sudo apt-get purge libuniconf4.6 worked just fine.

Now I'll try to continue with the 4.4 that allowed me to install everything on this machine.

One strange thing? The sound works fine on her machine while playing all types of media, but I have none on this one with ubuntu 11.10, mint12 OR 13!! And my card is just an old soundblaster! Too weird.....
it works fine in windblows....

Thanks for your time!

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Re: usb usr dialup/no gnomeppp in mint12

Postby MickeySoume on Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:03 am

Ok! On HER machine, what you said removed the 4.6 and I finished the gnome-ppp install. However, the exact same problem and error messages show in the log while dialing.

PPP negotiation detected. --> Unable to run /usr/sbin/pppd
Check permissions, or specify a "PPPD Path" option in wvdial.conf

At least I know it's not machine specific!

Here is the wvdial.conf info untouched by me so far.

[Dialer Defaults]
Init1 = ATZ
Init2 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0
Modem Type = USB Modem
Baud = 460800
New PPPD = yes
Modem = /dev/ttyACM0
ISDN = 0
; Phone = <Target Phone Number>
; Password = <Your Password>
; Username = <Your Login Name>

If it needs editing, what do I change?

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Re: usb usr dialup/no gnomeppp in mint12

Postby pbrane on Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:14 pm

How are you running gnome-ppp? You may have to run it in a terminal the first time as root.
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sudo gnome-ppp

After that you should be able to launch it from the menu.
if that fails add
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PPPD = /usr/sbin/pppd

to the end of the wvdial.conf file.
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Re: usb usr dialup/no gnomeppp in mint12

Postby MickeySoume on Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:39 pm

pbrane wrote:How are you running gnome-ppp? You may have to run it in a terminal the first time as root.
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sudo gnome-ppp


BINGO! THAT DID IT! I KNEW it was just one thing I didn't do!
....well, on HER machine it works, now to try that on this one. I shall return!
(THEN maybe I can figure out why her sound works fine and mine does not? :) )

THANK you so much!

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Re: usb usr dialup/no gnomeppp in mint12

Postby pbrane on Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:45 pm

From what I've read gnome-ppp should be run as root the first time to set the config files. You really should not have to run it as root every time.
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Re: usb usr dialup/no gnomeppp in mint12

Postby MickeySoume on Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:35 pm

You are correct. It only took the one time. I am ON LINUX MINT 12 typing this to you right NOW! *CHEERING!*
It's been a battle, but thanks to you pbrane, it happened! I don't like firefox, so I'm attempting to get my favorite browser working, as well as the MOH program.
No luck on either of those problems yet either, but the major battle has been won. So.... now I need to get USR-USB Modem-On-Hold running, Opera, and my soundblaster working properly and I'll be good to go! Any ideas why my sound card doesn't work? It used to be the number one selling soundcard! You'd think THAT would ALWAYS work!??? ....how odd.... Do you think it'll work if I use Virtual box or Wine? Same question, but for the MOH program too?

Thank you so much, once again.

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Re: usb usr dialup/no gnomeppp in mint12

Postby pbrane on Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:03 pm

Glad you got it working. About the sound card - sound has always worked for me except once when I discovered the sound was turned all the way down. I had to run alsamixer, from there I noticed the PCM volume was off.

What kind of sound card do you have? You can run this is a terminal and post back.
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lspci | grep -i audio


The MOH is for windows only. I don't think running it in VirtualBox or Wine will help in Linux. Do you really need it?
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Re: usb usr dialup/no gnomeppp in mint12

Postby MickeySoume on Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:23 pm

MOH (modem on hold) kicks you off line when someone calls in. It stinks, but it keeps the wife happy.
We can't afford another phone line just for internet.

I'm looking over the sound settings, they are all turned on, I believe.

Here's what it said:

00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
01:02.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 07)


Another mystery for me to solve! wheeeeee :lol:

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Re: usb usr dialup/no gnomeppp in mint12

Postby MickeySoume on Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:34 pm

Just saw the edit on MOH... yes, I'm afraid I DO absolutely need that to work. You have to keep the wife happy! Do you think USR makes one that works in linux? I can't seem to find anything on it yet.

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Re: usb usr dialup/no gnomeppp in mint12

Postby MickeySoume on Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:58 pm

Well that was easy. I remembered the reason I had the soundblaster in there. The onboard audio was fried. I had also redone numerous hdds, so I realized I had to go into cmos/bios and turn off onboard audio. All's well with the sound now. Once I get MOH to work somehow, I should be all set! No more !#@!#@!#@!#@ windows for me!

Thanks again pbrane! If you ever need to know how to fix ANYTHING (besides linux, it would seem, though a few guys did try to help me there, but they weren't as good as you) like drywall, plumbing, electric, HVAC, flooring, construction, cars, you name it, come to our forum.
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