[SOLVED] Mint 12 KDE Update Manager wants to remove KDE
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[SOLVED] Mint 12 KDE Update Manager wants to remove KDE
Today I received a notice that I have 103 updates available. (No I don't check very often)
I look them over and it's the usual stuff, like firefox and thunderbird updates and gpg and kdepim. All Level 3 updates.
I click install updates and I get a notice that additional changes will be made, and my jaw hits the floor that It wants to remove 36 of my packages
Including the following:
apturl-kde
digikam
gdebi-kde
jockey-kde
kde-config-touchpad
kde-window-manager
kde-workspace
kde-workspace-bin
kde-plasma-addons
kgpg
kscreensaver
And the list goes on from there. Obviously I canceled the request.
The question is,what do I do now? Sit and stare at the updates I can never get?
--Jim
I look them over and it's the usual stuff, like firefox and thunderbird updates and gpg and kdepim. All Level 3 updates.
I click install updates and I get a notice that additional changes will be made, and my jaw hits the floor that It wants to remove 36 of my packages
Including the following:
apturl-kde
digikam
gdebi-kde
jockey-kde
kde-config-touchpad
kde-window-manager
kde-workspace
kde-workspace-bin
kde-plasma-addons
kgpg
kscreensaver
And the list goes on from there. Obviously I canceled the request.
The question is,what do I do now? Sit and stare at the updates I can never get?
--Jim
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Re: [HELP!] Mint 12 KDE Update Manager wants to remove KDE
You may want to look at the whole scenario again. Perhaps it is replacing the older KDE with KDE 4.8.4?
Mint Cinnamon 20.1
Re: [HELP!] Mint 12 KDE Update Manager wants to remove KDE
Is there a way I can tell for certain without the risk of breaking my system?
Here's a screen shot.
Here's a screen shot.
Re: [HELP!] Mint 12 KDE Update Manager wants to remove KDE
I have the same problem with Mint Maya KDE. My solution is to start Synaptic, then click on "status" at the lower left corner, select "installed (upgradable)" and mark everything there for upgrade. In this case, i do not get any messages that any packets will be removed. ( careful with the x-org updates if you are using propriety graphics card drivers)
Re: [HELP!] Mint 12 KDE Update Manager wants to remove KDE
@Stel
So I am in synaptic now; you are saying that I should upgrade everything in synaptic except for xserver-xorg packages, correct? (I am using nvidia proprietary drivers)
So I am in synaptic now; you are saying that I should upgrade everything in synaptic except for xserver-xorg packages, correct? (I am using nvidia proprietary drivers)
Re: [HELP!] Mint 12 KDE Update Manager wants to remove KDE
Okay so I did Stel's suggestion, and it seems to have worked, but I do not feel I should mark this as solved because it is not really a solution, but a work-around to the problem.
It would seem that both Stel and myself have the same problem with the Update Manager wanting to remove things that do not need removing. If someone with more experience has a solution, to our problem, posting it would be much appreciated.
--Jim
It would seem that both Stel and myself have the same problem with the Update Manager wanting to remove things that do not need removing. If someone with more experience has a solution, to our problem, posting it would be much appreciated.
--Jim
Re: [HELP!] Mint 12 KDE Update Manager wants to remove KDE
Sorry for the late reply, but yes, it is not a solution, it is a workaround. It happens to me every time there is a big update of KDE packages.
Re: [HELP!] Mint 12 KDE Update Manager wants to remove KDE
jim,
unfortunately that screenshot is not telling us much (and that is one of the limitations of mintupdate: with complex updates involving upgrades+additions+removals the real information given to the user is short).
as tdockery was suggesting above "look at the whole scenario" and there's only one way to do that:
- open a terminal and run:now look closely at the end of the output, you have there all the history.
unfortunately that screenshot is not telling us much (and that is one of the limitations of mintupdate: with complex updates involving upgrades+additions+removals the real information given to the user is short).
as tdockery was suggesting above "look at the whole scenario" and there's only one way to do that:
- open a terminal and run:
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apt update && apt upgrade
Re: [HELP!] Mint 12 KDE Update Manager wants to remove KDE
@zerozero Thanks for that bit of info, I will remember that for the future... although because I already did what Stel suggested, the only updates that those commands showed were for the xorg packages which I did not upgrade from Synaptic.
However now I have a new issue related to the upgrades: Now every time I log-in, KResource Migration Tool tries to migrate data from the KDE Address Book (which I never use) and Akonadi.
The window stays there for 15 seconds and then self-closes every time. And it always tries to migrate the same things. It is rather annoying and I can't find any way to prevent it. I've been looking for some place to change the Apps started at login, to see if maybe the Migration Tool is in there somewhere... but somehow I feel as though I am thinking too much like a Windows user still and perhaps Linux has no such place.
EDIT: Okay I did find the KDE Control Panel section for Autostart and Service Manager... No Migration Tool is to be found there. I did however disable the irritating Nepomuk Search... all it ever did was give errors every three minutes anyway.
--Jim
However now I have a new issue related to the upgrades: Now every time I log-in, KResource Migration Tool tries to migrate data from the KDE Address Book (which I never use) and Akonadi.
The window stays there for 15 seconds and then self-closes every time. And it always tries to migrate the same things. It is rather annoying and I can't find any way to prevent it. I've been looking for some place to change the Apps started at login, to see if maybe the Migration Tool is in there somewhere... but somehow I feel as though I am thinking too much like a Windows user still and perhaps Linux has no such place.
EDIT: Okay I did find the KDE Control Panel section for Autostart and Service Manager... No Migration Tool is to be found there. I did however disable the irritating Nepomuk Search... all it ever did was give errors every three minutes anyway.
--Jim
Re: [HELP!] Mint 12 KDE Update Manager wants to remove KDE
Jim, that should only happen once, see this http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-List ... 00258.html (might help)
Re: [HELP!] Mint 12 KDE Update Manager wants to remove KDE
So, is it possible that mintupdate would actually update the system correctly and the pre-installation report was inaccurate?zerozero wrote:jim,
unfortunately that screenshot is not telling us much (and that is one of the limitations of mintupdate: with complex updates involving upgrades+additions+removals the real information given to the user is short).
as tdockery was suggesting above "look at the whole scenario" and there's only one way to do that:
- open a terminal and run:now look closely at the end of the output, you have there all the history.Code: Select all
apt update && apt upgrade
When i first installed LM 13 KDE, there was an update from KDE 4.8.3 to 4.8.4. Mintupdate reported that 8 packages would be removed and, if i remember correctly, about 16 new ones would be installed (no connection with those to be removed). When i tried Synaptic, i got a pre-installation report that zero packages would be removed and only one new package would be installed. Same thing happened again in a recent KDE update.
Still, it is very unnerving to get the kind of pre-installation reports mintupdate provides before a major upgrade. Especially when it affects your main production PC. So, until this is clarified, i will stick with Synaptic.
Re: [HELP!] Mint 12 KDE Update Manager wants to remove KDE
Stel,So, is it possible that mintupdate would actually update the system correctly and the pre-installation report was inaccurate?
mintupdate and synaptic are just frontends for apt, so they should have the same behavior. they don't, it's true: first because according to the levels selected in MU the upgrade output varies (those levels have no influence in apt or in synaptic); secondly the informative windows are not very user-friendly (tho they at least now exist - after a long fight )
Re: [HELP!] Mint 12 KDE Update Manager wants to remove KDE
Thank you for your answerzerozero wrote: Stel,
mintupdate and synaptic are just frontends for apt, so they should have the same behavior. they don't, it's true: first because according to the levels selected in MU the upgrade output varies (those levels have no influence in apt or in synaptic); secondly the informative windows are not very user-friendly (tho they at least now exist - after a long fight )
Now that i think about it, in synaptic i upgraded packages that mintupdate would classify as level 4. In mintupdate, i have all five levels visible, but only the first three ones enabled by default. Obviously, in major updates with mixed "level 1-2-3" and "level 4" updates (for mintupdate), upgrade scenarios are different, if you forget to enable all levels in mintupdate.
I will check next time to see if i made that mistake. ( because i do not really remember right now)
Re: [HELP!] Mint 12 KDE Update Manager wants to remove KDE
@zerozero That link helped me to solve the problem by editing the config to disable the migration tool for my user account.
So before I mark this as solved, just to clarify:
Is MintUpdate just giving incorrect info... or would it actually have done the things that it listed and broken my system had I clicked OK?
Should I just use Synaptic all the time and Never use MintUpdate?
--Jim
So before I mark this as solved, just to clarify:
Is MintUpdate just giving incorrect info... or would it actually have done the things that it listed and broken my system had I clicked OK?
Should I just use Synaptic all the time and Never use MintUpdate?
--Jim
Re: [HELP!] Mint 12 KDE Update Manager wants to remove KDE
Jim,RJim wrote: Is MintUpdate just giving incorrect info... or would it actually have done the things that it listed and broken my system had I clicked OK?
Should I just use Synaptic all the time and Never use MintUpdate?
--Jim
without testing both scenarios i can't answer that for sure;
MU is a mature tool (not perfect but where are those?) but updating/upgrading your system is a crucial task and you should only rely on tools you trust fully.
Re: [HELP!] Mint 12 KDE Update Manager wants to remove KDE
@zerozero Well let me rephrase this way... Do you trust MintUpdate to do a proper job if you had seen the screenshot above on your system?
From your earlier post it sounds as though you know that something is wrong with the way it handles certain things... but I want to make sure I am understanding you properly on this.
Of course I know that no software is perfect, that is why I posted this topic in the first place -- because I could tell something was amiss.
Please understand that I am not bashing MintUpdate (or any of it) but I think in the light of my experience, and the seriousness of the task of updates and upgrades (as you pointed out), my question is completely justified.
--Jim
From your earlier post it sounds as though you know that something is wrong with the way it handles certain things... but I want to make sure I am understanding you properly on this.
Of course I know that no software is perfect, that is why I posted this topic in the first place -- because I could tell something was amiss.
Please understand that I am not bashing MintUpdate (or any of it) but I think in the light of my experience, and the seriousness of the task of updates and upgrades (as you pointed out), my question is completely justified.
--Jim
Re: [HELP!] Mint 12 KDE Update Manager wants to remove KDE
Jim,
here it is: the test i wanted to do (but couldn't find the time before)
done with mint 13 maya kde liveDVD
1st part is the update with mintupdate
similar screen to the one you saw with "disturbing" removals but after i hit apply and let all the upadtes install this is what is in history.log (note that there is not one removal in there)
mint@mint ~ $ cat /var/log/apt/history.log
now rebooting and trying the same with the terminal:
here we go:
what you see here is the output of 2 different commands: in the first code block is upgrade and in the second is dist-upgrade
- mintupdate is in-between: installs new packages; eventually (not tested here) remove obsolete pkgs as well but is "blocked" by the levels (doesn't install ALL the new pkgs >> this of course in a default configuration)
here it is: the test i wanted to do (but couldn't find the time before)
done with mint 13 maya kde liveDVD
1st part is the update with mintupdate
similar screen to the one you saw with "disturbing" removals but after i hit apply and let all the upadtes install this is what is in history.log (note that there is not one removal in there)
mint@mint ~ $ cat /var/log/apt/history.log
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Start-Date: 2012-07-24 00:47:42
Commandline: /usr/sbin/synaptic --hide-main-window --non-interactive --parent-window-id 52428922 -o Synaptic::closeZvt=true --progress-str Please wait, this can take some time --finish-str Update is complete --set-selections-file /tmp/tmpPDzE0Z
Install: printer-driver-postscript-hp:amd64 (3.12.2-1ubuntu3.1, automatic)
Upgrade: libsmbclient:amd64 (3.6.3-2ubuntu2.1, 3.6.3-2ubuntu2.3), libpolkit-backend-1-0:amd64 (0.104-1, 0.104-1ubuntu1), libkresources4:amd64 (4.8.3-0ubuntu0.1, 4.8.4-0ubuntu0.2), ksystemlog:amd64 (4.8.3-0ubuntu0.1, 4.8.4-0ubuntu0.1), libkrb5-3:amd64 (1.10+dfsg~beta1-2, 1.10+dfsg~beta1-2ubuntu0.1), libkprintutils4:amd64 (4.8.3-0ubuntu0.1, 4.8.4a-0ubuntu0.2), libk5crypto3:amd64 (1.10+dfsg~beta1-2, 1.10+dfsg~beta1-2ubuntu0.1), apt-transport-https:amd64 (0.8.16~exp12ubuntu10, 0.8.16~exp12ubuntu10.2), libkldap4:amd64 (4.8.3-0ubuntu0.1, 4.8.4-0ubuntu0.2), libswscale2:amd64 (0.8.1-0ubuntu1, 0.8.3-0ubuntu0.12.04.1), kde-zeroconf:amd64 (4.8.3-0ubuntu0.1, 4.8.4-0ubuntu0.1), kppp:amd64 (4.8.3-0ubuntu0.1, 4.8.4-0ubuntu0.1), libktnef4:amd64 (4.8.3-0ubuntu0.1, 4.8.4-0ubuntu0.2), libokularcore1abi1:amd64 (4.8.3-0ubuntu0.1, 4.8.4-0ubuntu0.1), update-notifier-common:amd64 (0.119ubuntu8.1, 0.119ubuntu8.4), python-cupshelpers:amd64 (1.3.8+20120201-0ubuntu8, 1.3.8+20120201-0ubuntu8.1), 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hplip hplip-data libhpmud0 libsane-hpaio linux-generic linux-image-generic
printer-driver-hpcups printer-driver-hpijs
The following packages will be upgraded:
accountsservice akregator apt apt-transport-https apt-utils aptdaemon ark
bind9-host cron cups cups-bsd cups-client cups-common cups-ppdc dnsutils
dolphin faenza-icons-kde firefox firefox-locale-en foomatic-filters
freespacenotifier grub-common grub-pc grub-pc-bin grub2-common
gstreamer0.10-alsa gstreamer0.10-plugins-base gstreamer0.10-x gwenview
isc-dhcp-client isc-dhcp-common jovie kaddressbook kamera kate kate-data
katepart kde-baseapps-bin kde-baseapps-data kde-runtime kde-runtime-data
kde-style-oxygen kde-window-manager kde-window-manager-common kde-workspace
kde-workspace-bin kde-workspace-data kde-workspace-kgreet-plugins
kde-zeroconf kdeaccessibility kdegames-card-data kdelibs-bin kdelibs5-data
kdelibs5-plugins kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdenetwork-filesharing kdepasswd
kdepim-kresources kdepim-runtime kdepim-strigi-plugins
kdepimlibs-kio-plugins kdm kdoctools kget kgpg khelpcenter4 kinfocenter
klipper kmail kmenuedit kmix knotes konsole kontact kopete korganizer kppp
krb5-locales ksysguard ksysguardd ksystemlog kwalletmanager language-pack-en
language-pack-kde-en libaccountsservice0 libakonadi-calendar4
libakonadi-contact4 libakonadi-kabc4 libakonadi-kcal4 libakonadi-kde4
libakonadi-kmime4 libakonadi-notes4 libapt-inst1.4 libapt-pkg4.12
libavcodec53 libavformat53 libavutil51 libbind9-80 libcairo-gobject2
libcairo2 libcalendarsupport4 libcups2 libcupscgi1 libcupsdriver1
libcupsimage2 libcupsmime1 libcupsppdc1 libdbusmenu-glib4 libdbusmenu-gtk3-4
libdbusmenu-gtk4 libdns81 libeventviews4 libexif12 libgail-3-0 libgcrypt11
libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx libglade2-0 libglapi-mesa libglib2.0-0
libglu1-mesa libgnutls26 libgpgme++2 libgssapi-krb5-2
libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0 libgtk-3-0 libgtk-3-common libgutenprint2
libincidenceeditorsng4 libisc83 libisccc80 libisccfg82 libjpeg-turbo8
libk5crypto3 libkabc4 libkactivities-bin libkactivities6 libkalarmcal2
libkateinterfaces4 libkatepartinterfaces4 libkblog4 libkcal4 libkcalcore4
libkcalutils4 libkcddb4 libkcmutils4 libkdcraw-data libkdcraw20
libkde3support4 libkdeclarative5 libkdecorations4 libkdecore5 libkdegames5a
libkdepim4 libkdepimdbusinterfaces4 libkdesu5 libkdeui5 libkdewebkit5
libkdgantt2 libkdnssd4 libkemoticons4 libkephal4abi1 libkexiv2-10
libkexiv2-data libkfile4 libkholidays4 libkhtml5 libkidletime4 libkimap4
libkio5 libkipi-data libkipi8 libkjsapi4 libkjsembed4 libkldap4 libkleo4
libkmanagesieve4 libkmbox4 libkmediaplayer4 libkmime4 libknewstuff2-4
libknewstuff3-4 libknotifyconfig4 libkntlm4 libkonq-common
libkonq5-templates libkonq5abi1 libkontactinterface4 libkopete4 libkparts4
libkpgp4 libkpimidentities4 libkpimtextedit4 libkpimutils4 libkprintutils4
libkpty4 libkrb5-3 libkrb5support0 libkresources4 libkrosscore4
libkscreensaver5 libksgrd4 libksieve4 libksieveui4 libksignalplotter4
libktexteditor4 libktnef4 libkunitconversion4 libkwineffects1abi3
libkwinglutils1 libkwinnvidiahack4 libkworkspace4abi1 libkxmlrpcclient4
liblwres80 libmailcommon4 libmailtransport4 libmarblewidget13
libmessagecomposer4 libmessagecore4 libmessagelist4 libmessageviewer4
libmicroblog4 libmtp-common libmtp-runtime libmtp9 libmysqlclient18
libnautilus-extension1a libnepomuk4 libnepomukdatamanagement4
libnepomukquery4a libnepomuksync4 libnepomukutils4 libnm-glib-vpn1
libnm-glib4 libnm-util2 libokularcore1abi1 libpango1.0-0
libplasma-geolocation-interface4 libplasma3 libplasmaclock4abi3
libplasmagenericshell4 libpolkit-agent-1-0 libpolkit-backend-1-0
libpolkit-gobject-1-0 libpostproc52 libprocesscore4abi1 libprocessui4a
libpulse-mainloop-glib0 libpulse0 libpulsedsp libqgpgme1 libqt4-dbus
libqt4-declarative libqt4-designer libqt4-help libqt4-network libqt4-opengl
libqt4-qt3support libqt4-script libqt4-scripttools libqt4-sql
libqt4-sql-mysql libqt4-sql-sqlite libqt4-svg libqt4-test libqt4-xml
libqt4-xmlpatterns libqtcore4 libqtgui4 libsmbclient libsolid4
libsolidcontrol4abi2 libsolidcontrolifaces4abi2 libswscale2 libsyndication4
libtaskmanager4abi3 libtemplateparser4 libthreadweaver4 libtiff4 libv4l-0
libv4lconvert0 libwbclient0 libweather-ion6 libxatracker1 libxkbfile1
marble-data mysql-client-core-5.5 mysql-common mysql-server-core-5.5
network-manager ntpdate okular okular-extra-backends openjdk-7-jre
openjdk-7-jre-headless openjdk-7-jre-lib plasma-dataengines-addons
plasma-dataengines-workspace plasma-desktop plasma-netbook
plasma-scriptengine-javascript plasma-scriptengine-python
plasma-widget-folderview plasma-widget-kimpanel plasma-widgets-addons
plasma-widgets-workspace policykit-1 printer-driver-gutenprint
printer-driver-ptouch pulseaudio pulseaudio-module-bluetooth
pulseaudio-module-x11 pulseaudio-utils python-aptdaemon python-crypto
python-cupshelpers python-problem-report python-software-properties qdbus
samba samba-common samba-common-bin shared-mime-info smbclient ssl-cert sudo
system-config-printer-common system-config-printer-kde
system-config-printer-udev systemsettings tasks-icons update-manager-core
update-manager-kde update-notifier-common xkb-data xserver-common
xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse xsettings-kde
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mint@mint ~ $ apt dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
linux-image-3.2.0-27-generic printer-driver-postscript-hp
The following packages will be upgraded:
accountsservice akregator apt apt-transport-https apt-utils aptdaemon ark
bind9-host cron cups cups-bsd cups-client cups-common cups-ppdc dnsutils
dolphin faenza-icons-kde firefox firefox-locale-en foomatic-filters
freespacenotifier grub-common grub-pc grub-pc-bin grub2-common
gstreamer0.10-alsa gstreamer0.10-plugins-base gstreamer0.10-x gwenview hplip
hplip-data isc-dhcp-client isc-dhcp-common jovie kaddressbook kamera kate
kate-data katepart kde-baseapps-bin kde-baseapps-data kde-runtime
kde-runtime-data kde-style-oxygen kde-window-manager
kde-window-manager-common kde-workspace kde-workspace-bin kde-workspace-data
kde-workspace-kgreet-plugins kde-zeroconf kdeaccessibility
kdegames-card-data kdelibs-bin kdelibs5-data kdelibs5-plugins
kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdenetwork-filesharing kdepasswd kdepim-kresources
kdepim-runtime kdepim-strigi-plugins kdepimlibs-kio-plugins kdm kdoctools
kget kgpg khelpcenter4 kinfocenter klipper kmail kmenuedit kmix knotes
konsole kontact kopete korganizer kppp krb5-locales ksysguard ksysguardd
ksystemlog kwalletmanager language-pack-en language-pack-kde-en
libaccountsservice0 libakonadi-calendar4 libakonadi-contact4
libakonadi-kabc4 libakonadi-kcal4 libakonadi-kde4 libakonadi-kmime4
libakonadi-notes4 libapt-inst1.4 libapt-pkg4.12 libavcodec53 libavformat53
libavutil51 libbind9-80 libcairo-gobject2 libcairo2 libcalendarsupport4
libcups2 libcupscgi1 libcupsdriver1 libcupsimage2 libcupsmime1 libcupsppdc1
libdbusmenu-glib4 libdbusmenu-gtk3-4 libdbusmenu-gtk4 libdns81
libeventviews4 libexif12 libgail-3-0 libgcrypt11 libgl1-mesa-dri
libgl1-mesa-glx libglade2-0 libglapi-mesa libglib2.0-0 libglu1-mesa
libgnutls26 libgpgme++2 libgssapi-krb5-2 libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0
libgtk-3-0 libgtk-3-common libgutenprint2 libhpmud0 libincidenceeditorsng4
libisc83 libisccc80 libisccfg82 libjpeg-turbo8 libk5crypto3 libkabc4
libkactivities-bin libkactivities6 libkalarmcal2 libkateinterfaces4
libkatepartinterfaces4 libkblog4 libkcal4 libkcalcore4 libkcalutils4
libkcddb4 libkcmutils4 libkdcraw-data libkdcraw20 libkde3support4
libkdeclarative5 libkdecorations4 libkdecore5 libkdegames5a libkdepim4
libkdepimdbusinterfaces4 libkdesu5 libkdeui5 libkdewebkit5 libkdgantt2
libkdnssd4 libkemoticons4 libkephal4abi1 libkexiv2-10 libkexiv2-data
libkfile4 libkholidays4 libkhtml5 libkidletime4 libkimap4 libkio5
libkipi-data libkipi8 libkjsapi4 libkjsembed4 libkldap4 libkleo4
libkmanagesieve4 libkmbox4 libkmediaplayer4 libkmime4 libknewstuff2-4
libknewstuff3-4 libknotifyconfig4 libkntlm4 libkonq-common
libkonq5-templates libkonq5abi1 libkontactinterface4 libkopete4 libkparts4
libkpgp4 libkpimidentities4 libkpimtextedit4 libkpimutils4 libkprintutils4
libkpty4 libkrb5-3 libkrb5support0 libkresources4 libkrosscore4
libkscreensaver5 libksgrd4 libksieve4 libksieveui4 libksignalplotter4
libktexteditor4 libktnef4 libkunitconversion4 libkwineffects1abi3
libkwinglutils1 libkwinnvidiahack4 libkworkspace4abi1 libkxmlrpcclient4
liblwres80 libmailcommon4 libmailtransport4 libmarblewidget13
libmessagecomposer4 libmessagecore4 libmessagelist4 libmessageviewer4
libmicroblog4 libmtp-common libmtp-runtime libmtp9 libmysqlclient18
libnautilus-extension1a libnepomuk4 libnepomukdatamanagement4
libnepomukquery4a libnepomuksync4 libnepomukutils4 libnm-glib-vpn1
libnm-glib4 libnm-util2 libokularcore1abi1 libpango1.0-0
libplasma-geolocation-interface4 libplasma3 libplasmaclock4abi3
libplasmagenericshell4 libpolkit-agent-1-0 libpolkit-backend-1-0
libpolkit-gobject-1-0 libpostproc52 libprocesscore4abi1 libprocessui4a
libpulse-mainloop-glib0 libpulse0 libpulsedsp libqgpgme1 libqt4-dbus
libqt4-declarative libqt4-designer libqt4-help libqt4-network libqt4-opengl
libqt4-qt3support libqt4-script libqt4-scripttools libqt4-sql
libqt4-sql-mysql libqt4-sql-sqlite libqt4-svg libqt4-test libqt4-xml
libqt4-xmlpatterns libqtcore4 libqtgui4 libsane-hpaio libsmbclient libsolid4
libsolidcontrol4abi2 libsolidcontrolifaces4abi2 libswscale2 libsyndication4
libtaskmanager4abi3 libtemplateparser4 libthreadweaver4 libtiff4 libv4l-0
libv4lconvert0 libwbclient0 libweather-ion6 libxatracker1 libxkbfile1
linux-generic linux-image-generic marble-data mysql-client-core-5.5
mysql-common mysql-server-core-5.5 network-manager ntpdate okular
okular-extra-backends openjdk-7-jre openjdk-7-jre-headless openjdk-7-jre-lib
plasma-dataengines-addons plasma-dataengines-workspace plasma-desktop
plasma-netbook plasma-scriptengine-javascript plasma-scriptengine-python
plasma-widget-folderview plasma-widget-kimpanel plasma-widgets-addons
plasma-widgets-workspace policykit-1 printer-driver-gutenprint
printer-driver-hpcups printer-driver-hpijs printer-driver-ptouch pulseaudio
pulseaudio-module-bluetooth pulseaudio-module-x11 pulseaudio-utils
python-aptdaemon python-crypto python-cupshelpers python-problem-report
python-software-properties qdbus samba samba-common samba-common-bin
shared-mime-info smbclient ssl-cert sudo system-config-printer-common
system-config-printer-kde system-config-printer-udev systemsettings
tasks-icons update-manager-core update-manager-kde update-notifier-common
xkb-data xserver-common xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-evdev
xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse xsettings-kde
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upgrade
Used to install the newest versions of all packages currently installed on the system from the sources enumerated in /etc/apt/sources.list(5). Packages currently installed with new versions available are retrieved and upgraded; under no circumstances are currently installed packages removed, nor are packages that are not already installed retrieved and installed. New versions of currently installed packages that cannot be upgraded without changing the install status of another package will be left at their current version. An update must be performed first so that apt-get knows that new versions of packages are available.
- comparing both you see that upgrade installs new versions of the packages you have in the system but doesn't install new packages or remove any as dist-upgrade does;dist-upgrade
In addition to performing the function of upgrade, this option also intelligently handles changing dependencies with new versions of packages; apt-get has a "smart" conflict resolution system, and it will attempt to upgrade the most important packages at the expense of less important ones, if necessary.
The /etc/apt/sources.list(5) file contains a list of locations from
which to retrieve desired package files. See also apt_preferences(5) for a mechanism for over-riding the general settings for individual packages.
- mintupdate is in-between: installs new packages; eventually (not tested here) remove obsolete pkgs as well but is "blocked" by the levels (doesn't install ALL the new pkgs >> this of course in a default configuration)
Re: [HELP!] Mint 12 KDE Update Manager wants to remove KDE
Hmmm... so you have essentially confirmed that MintUpdate will not actually remove all of the things it says will be removed.
So basically it scared me for nothing
Thank you for all of your help zerozero.
I will mark this as solved now... I guess I should just not flinch next time I get one of those disturbing confirmation messages.
--Jim
So basically it scared me for nothing
Thank you for all of your help zerozero.
I will mark this as solved now... I guess I should just not flinch next time I get one of those disturbing confirmation messages.
--Jim