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Re: Cinnamon Extras PPA (updated July 12)

Postby bimsebasse on Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:10 pm

Additions:

The excellent and unique VOID theme: http://cinnamon-spices.linuxmint.com/themes/view/104
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sudo apt-get install cinnamon-theme-void


The similarly excellent Windows 7 menu applet: http://cinnamon-spices.linuxmint.com/applets/view/84
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sudo apt-get install cinnamon-applet-win7menu


... and everything else brought up-to-date.
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Re: Cinnamon Extras PPA (updated July 12)

Postby bimsebasse on Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:51 am

Cinnamon 1.5 now has on the todo list to makes themes, applets and extensions installable from within Cinnamon Settings. This is awesome news and will of course render the need for a dedicated PPA obsolete. I'll keep updating themes for the PPA but applets and extensions are hereby no longer updated, also because more and more applets have config files that require them to be installed in local user directory instead of the root directory, which rules a PPA install out as PPAs can only install to the root directory.

So, themes still maintained until built-in theme installation feature goes live - everything else no longer updated.
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Re: Cinnamon Extras PPA (updated July 12)

Postby zerozero on Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:58 pm

bim,
Cinnamon 1.5 now has on the todo list to makes themes, applets and extensions installable from within Cinnamon Settings

something similar to kde's "Get Hot New Stuff"? http://data.kstuff.org/
just really asking :D a bit out of touch with cinnamon lately but if is like that is indeed awesome 8)
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Re: Cinnamon Extras PPA (updated July 12)

Postby bimsebasse on Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:31 am

No idea - I was waiting for a extensions.org fork but it seems they plan to do it from within Cinnamon Settings. Hope it has top priority, it will move Cinnamon a great deal forward.
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Re: Cinnamon Extras PPA (updated July 12)

Postby cwwgateway on Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:34 am

I agree - for new users who don't necessarily know how to manually install themes/applets/extensions or even how to add a ppa, this is going to be very helpful (and convienient for people who do know how). I'm very curious how exactly it will be implemented.
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Re: Cinnamon Extras PPA (updated July 12)

Postby InkKnife on Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:58 pm

I just wanted to say how happy I am to see Cinnamon moving along so nicely. I just switched to Linux about 6 months ago and test drove pretty much every DE out there and Cinnamon is the one that just hit the spot for me. I have recommended Mint13/Cinnamon to friends and they all liked it better than Unity, Gnome3 and KDE.
I am excited to see what is coming in 1.5 and I think being able to install themes and applets from within Cinnamon settings is a splendid idea. :D
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Re: Cinnamon Extras PPA (updated July 12)

Postby cwwgateway on Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:15 pm

Interestingly, It seems that the next stable release of Cinnamon will be 1.6 (or at least that's the way I understood Clem's blog post).
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Re: Cinnamon Extras PPA (updated July 12)

Postby zerozero on Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:37 pm

so it seems, 1.5 will be a development release and the next stable release will be 1.6 although maya will see also a 1.5 release
Versions from the current unstable 1.5 branch should hit the romeo part of the Linux Mint 13 and LMDE repositories shortly.

my question is: will this 1.6 be the last release available to maya?
quantal/mint14 will have gnome3.6 and surely colg/clutter libs that (if the pattern persists) are not retrocompatible (i'm guessing) so any cinnamon build for mint14 won't be compatible with maya.
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Re: Cinnamon Extras PPA (updated July 12)

Postby dalcde on Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:39 am

As far as I know, Cinnamon 1.5 is compatible with both GNOME 3.4 and 3.6
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Re: Cinnamon Extras PPA (updated July 12)

Postby jfuk86 on Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:04 am

when will the ppa work on nadia?
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Re: Cinnamon Extras PPA (updated July 12)

Postby bimsebasse on Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:36 am

It won't! Better installation of applets, themes and extensions is coming soon to Cinnamon, this PPA is a ghost ship.

If you want your Cinnamon stuff updated you'll have to do it manually through the Cinnamon site until Cinnamon gets native installation support.
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Re: Cinnamon Extras PPA (updated July 12)

Postby InkKnife on Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:43 pm

bimsebasse wrote:It won't! Better installation of applets, themes and extensions is coming soon to Cinnamon, this PPA is a ghost ship.

If you want your Cinnamon stuff updated you'll have to do it manually through the Cinnamon site until Cinnamon gets native installation support.

Built in installation of Cinnamon extras will be great. That's really my only gripe with Cinnamon.
Other than that I have been impressed by the improvement in Cinnamon recently.
I took a deep breath and allowed the Romeo repo and was rewarded with a Cinnamon that has become very stable and smooth. Coming from the OSX and Windows world I am gob-smacked at how fast Cinnamon has come along. Last winter not much better than a proof of concept, now, less than a year latter starting to feel like a mature desktop.
Neither MS or Apple could pull that off. It took Apple three years to get Quartz up and running and then only barely so. MS, well, we all know how slow they are.
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Re: Cinnamon Extras PPA (discontinued)

Postby bimsebasse on Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:24 pm

Yup, and there are still loads of improvements in queue delayed due to the Cinnamon "feature freeze" prior to the release of Mint 14.

I still remember thinking Cinnamon was a daft project back when it was basically Gnome shell with three hardcoded extensions and an ugly theme. A lot has happened since :)
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Re: Cinnamon Extras PPA (discontinued)

Postby nomko on Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:49 am

I really appreciate the things you do Bimsebasse. Good job! But my biggest questions are why maintaining a PPA when there's a fully extensions, applets and themes page on the (main) Cinnamon website? What is the benefit of your PPA? I can imagine that you improve 1 or 2 things but won't it be better to implement those improvements in the app's/themes/extensions on the official website?

overall taken, it really gives me the Gnome3 feeling, without that dash thingy, when adding/removing themes/extensions/applets. I also do think that Cinnamon has a future as a desktop environment when i compare it with the Gnome3 DE and/or Unity DE. Only it shouldn't be as buggy as it is right now.

But the extra PPA's makes it worthwhile!!! So again, keep up the good work!
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Re: Cinnamon Extras PPA (discontinued)

Postby bimsebasse on Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:05 am

nomko wrote:I really appreciate the things you do Bimsebasse. Good job! But my biggest questions are why maintaining a PPA when there's a fully extensions, applets and themes page on the (main) Cinnamon website? What is the benefit of your PPA? I can imagine that you improve 1 or 2 things but won't it be better to implement those improvements in the app's/themes/extensions on the official website?


The benefits were:

1: Easier to install an applet/extension/theme through Software Manager or Synaptic (or terminal) than a manual download, extract, move folder around procedure

But most importantly

2: Keeping updated. If you installed an applet manually, you had to also manually check for updates by going to the website, then repeating the install procedure once a again if an update was available. Using a PPA the applet gets updated automatically.
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Re: Cinnamon Extras PPA (discontinued)

Postby nomko on Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:57 am

bimsebasse wrote:The benefits were:

Reading this is not benefitial anymore to use the PPA? Or do you still advice to use the PPA? Of so, then it should say: The benefits are:

1: Easier to install an applet/extension/theme through Software Manager or Synaptic (or terminal) than a manual download, extract, move folder around procedure

Escpecially the last part can be a bit tricky for new users who aren't familiar with the terminal yet. using PPA's and install everythinh using Software Manager is much easier. Good thinking!

2: Keeping updated. If you installed an applet manually, you had to also manually check for updates by going to the website, then repeating the install procedure once a again if an update was available. Using a PPA the applet gets updated automatically.

Good thinking again!

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Re: Cinnamon Extras PPA (discontinued)

Postby bimsebasse on Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:51 am

No, I don't think anyone should use this PPA anymore as it has been discontinued. It works but won't be useful for long.

In fact I wouldn't mind a deletion or lock of the thread.
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Re: Cinnamon Extras PPA (discontinued)

Postby zerozero on Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:31 am

bimsebasse wrote:In fact I wouldn't mind a deletion or lock of the thread.

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