[Unresolved] LM13 and LMDE - Useless auto update manager

[davidvrbanec]

It will be great if mint team add option to the update manager to always run in root mode. I realy think about this beacause if you are not root then update manager dont check for updates every x hours/minutes.

[AlbertP]

It should be able to check for updates even if it is not running as root mode. It only can't update the APT cache, but that is done automatically every time you open the updater and enter the password.

[HappyLinux]

I took a look for that "upgrade-system" package, but I can't make use of it because I'm not running Debian. Shame really, as it sounds useful.

[on4aa]

I was experiencing exactly the same problem as first poster "Trapper" for a while on my LMDE machines.
With the frequent Java updates nowadays, it was actually my wife who asked me to resolve the update notifier issue.
I can confirm that...

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sudo apt-get install update-notifier-common anacron

...resolves the issue, at least on LMDE systems.
The solution was discussed in detail here.

[cb474]

I decided to install upgrade-system to see if its cron job would make mintupdate automatically notify me of updates. And then just for the heck of it I decided to run the upgrade-system command itself to see what it would want to do. One feature it has is that it looks for orphaned packages to purge. I was surprised that it came up with this long lists of orphans:

bogofilter* cups-driver-gutenprint* dhcp3-client* dhcp3-common*
foomatic-filters-ppds* freeglut3:i386* gnome-utils-common* gs* gs-common*
lesstif2:i386* lib32asound2* lib32bz2-1.0* lib32ncurses5* lib32stdc++6*
lib32tinfo5* lib32v4l-0* lib32z1* libaio1:i386* libapache2-mod-dnssd*
libartsc0* libatk-adaptor-data* libatk-bridge2.0-0* libaudiofile0*
libavahi-gobject0* libavahi-ui0* libavahi1.0-cil* libavformat52*
libavutil49* libbind9-60* libbluray0* libboost-iostreams1.42.0*
libboost-iostreams1.48.0* libcamel-1.2-29* libcamel1.2-14* libcamel1.2-19*
libcdio-paranoia0* libcelt0-0* libclutter-gtk-0.10-0* libcolorblind0*
libcryptsetup1* libcryptui0a* libcurl3-nss* libdb4.7* libdb4.8* libdnet*
libdpkg-ruby1.8* libdvbpsi6* libebackend1.2-0* libedata-cal-1.2-13*
libeggdbus-1-0* libegroupwise1.2-13* libertas-firmware* libevent-1.4-2*
libevince2* libexiv2-9* libfltk1.1:i386* libgadu3* libgalago3*
libgconfmm-2.6-1c2* libgcr0* libgdata-google1.2-1* libgdata1.7-cil*
libgdata1.9-cil* libgdata7* libgegl-0.0-0* libgettext-ruby1.8*
libgirepository1.0-0* libgl1-mesa-dev* libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental*
libglademm-2.4-1c2a* libglew1.5* libgmime2.4-cil* libgnome-bluetooth7*
libgnome-control-center1* libgnome-mag2* libgnome-media0* libgnome-speech7*
libgnome-window-settings1* libgnomekbd4* libgp11-0* libgraphite3* libgs8*
libgsf-1-114* libgtkhtml-editor-3.14-0* libgtkhtml-editor-4.0-0*
libgucharmap7* libgweather1* libhttpclient-ruby1.8* libhunspell-1.2-0*
libimobiledevice1* libiptcdata0* libisccfg60* libiso9660-7* libjs-jquery-ui*
liblocale-ruby1.8* liblockfile1* liblouis-data* liblwres60* libmagickwand3*
libmagickwand4* libmatroska0* libmatroska3* libmatroska4* libminiupnpc5*
libmjpegtools-1.9* libmjpegtools-2.0-0* libmono-cairo2.0-cil*
libmono-simd2.0-cil* libmtp8* libmusicbrainz4c2a* libnatpmp1* libnfsidmap2*
libnice0* libnl1* libnm-glib2* libntfs-3g804* liboil0.3* liboobs-1-4*
libpango1.0-common* libpolkit-gtk-1-0* libpoppler-glib6* libpostproc51*
libpython2.6* libquvi0* librasqal2* librpmio2* libruby* libseed0*
libsilc-1.1-2* libsilcclient-1.1-3* libslab0a* libsoundtouch1c2* libsqlite0*
libstdc++5:i386* libsysfs2* libsysfs2:i386* libtextcat0*
libtracker-client-0.8-0* libtracker-sparql-0.12-0* libwpg-0.1-1*
libwps-0.1-1* libx264-120* libx264-98* libxcb-atom1* libxcb-aux0*
libxcb-event1* libxcb-render-util0* libxcb-render-util0:i386*
libxml-parser-ruby1.8* libxp6:i386* libyajl1* min12xxw* pnm2ppa*
python-brlapi* python-bugbuddy* python-decorator* python-egenix-mxdatetime*
python-evolution* python-gdata* python-geoip* python-gmenu* python-gtkspell*
python-keybinder* python-mako* python-nevow* python-parted* python-rdflib*
python-wnck* ttf-bengali-fonts* ttf-gujarati-fonts* ttf-opensymbol*
ttf-punjabi-fonts* ttf-tamil-fonts* ttf-telugu-fonts*

I opted not to remove the packages. Can all of those really be packages I don't need?

[cb474]

Aha! I think I have figured out my peculiar success.

As part of my installs I routinely install a package called upgrade-system. I thought this was simply a command line util but just discovered it also installs a cron job that runs apt-get update every night.

Looks like I have inadvertently implemented the same "solution" you guys are using

Where is the cron job file that upgrade-system installs? I looked for it in /var/spool/cron/crontabs but there's nothing there.

[HappyLinux]

I'm still having the problem of MintUpdate not automatically checking for updates. However since December 2012, a second update program has started appearing automatically every 8 days. It appears to be Ubuntu's Update Manager listing what updates are available and a window over the top of that telling me that I need to manually check for updates.

I'm not using LMDE, but Mint13LTS. So these cron jobs are pretty much useless for me. Which means that I still have a MintUpdate that doesn't automatically check for updates and now a Ubuntu Update Manager that does automatically check every 8 days.

Funny thing is, I never installed Ubuntu UM, but somehow became active.

So yet again, a message to the programmer(s) of Mint UM "PLEASE BRING BACK THE AUTOMATIC CHECKING FEATURE!"