hannu wrote:any plans to come up with a server edition of Linux Mint
hannu wrote:Yes, the Ubuntu Server edition is quite useful, we have it in some of our file servers. However, much like Debian, its installation is not very consistent, you have to either install too much or too little, then backtrack by uninstalling and adding afterwards.
Any stripped down to plain command line Linux distro will work well as a server, but what is missing is a purpose-built interactive installation sequence and purpose-built light X GUI for a server.
This type of packaging could save time in a situation when you have to perform an installation rather quickly. I currently use Debian for this purpose, but it takes me days to get a the installation complete. In other words, the installation script gives nothing but a raw starting point, then you use aptitude manually to fix everything.
Mint is known for its superior packaging, so I think they would be able to come up with a better server installation interactive installation. Mandriva and SuSe had good interactive installation scripts in the past, but they don't see to be in the picture very much any more.
hannu wrote:a purpose-built interactive installation sequence and purpose-built light X GUI for a server
hannu wrote:Mint is known for its superior packaging
hannu wrote:The SuSe installer advanced option is the closest thing that I am trying to describe. You go through long lists of packages and install what you want.
For a server, you leave out most client programs, browsers, offices, graphics, multimedia codec, and pick the server options that you need.
However, I wouldn't use SuSe or Mandriva any more, the RPM system got worse and worse during the time I used them in my servers 1997-2006.
The idea installing a server is to install as little as possible, only what is absolutely needed. Debian, Ubuntu Server, Mint installations don't allow the end user to choose what actually gets installed.
The non-x option in Debian is closest, but gives you very little choice.
The question is not what is easiest to install. Of course Ubuntu and Mint area easy, there is no decisions to be made.
Right, Ubuntu and Mint use same installers and repos, but the end result - all packages installed, is different. Otherwise there would be no Mint.
I see that this is going nowhere, forget the whole thing.
It sounds more like you want Ubuntu Server stripped of everything with selective packages on installation.
hannu wrote:I wonder if there have been any plans to come up with a server edition of Linux Mint.
Something like this:
- an installation that by default only installs the basic Linux with a light weight X desktop
- offering options to install sendmail, apache2, mysql, sshd server, dovecot POP/IMAP, BIND, Shorewall
- options for editors, vi, vim, emacs, light weight file manager, etc.
- no codex, multimedia etc.
hannu wrote:Right now, I use Debian for our servers, installing a nox version, then adding all programs one by one. The installation is not very good, it installs Exim mail server which is hard to get ridd off. Then, after doing everything slowly and manually, you can install x manually. If you choose "Desktop", it will install Gnome with everything that comes with it.
js3915 wrote:Server like ubuntu server there is nothing different than normal ubuntu except its missing a GUI which if you wanted could install..
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