New update problems again ! [SOLVED]

[scotthge]

Last night I had two updates available which were Firefox and Thunderbird so I installed the updates. Everything installed alright but this morning when I turned on my computer............now I have 133 recommended updates available. I checked the update pak and I am at up5, what are all these new updates ? I don't know whether to install them or not. Can someone advise me whether it is safe to install the updates or ignore them.

Thank you for looking,
Glenn

[zerozero]

hi
let's see what's going on
give us the output of

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inxi -r

and

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apt dist-upgrade

(don't answer yes until we review what's in there)

[scotthge]

Hi zerozero,

I have no idea whether to download these updates or not, I have not added anything since you last helped me straighten this machine out. I checked the web and there is nobody talking about updates so I am a little confused on what to do.

The output of inxi -r is

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glenn@laptop ~ $ inxi -r
Repos:     Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list
           deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian import main upstream
           deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest testing contrib non-free main
           deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/security testing/updates contrib non-free main
           deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/multimedia testing non-free main
           deb-src http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest testing main contrib non-free
           deb-src http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/multimedia testing main non-free
           deb-src http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/security testing/updates main contrib non-free
           deb-src http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import
           deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing contrib non-free main


and the output from apt dist-upgrade is:

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glenn@laptop ~ $ apt dist-upgrade
[sudo] password for glenn:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  nvidia-kernel-3.2.0-4-amd64
The following packages will be upgraded:
  accountsservice apache2.2-bin aptitude aptitude-common aptitude-doc-en
  bind9-host console-setup console-setup-linux cpp cpp-4.7 cryptsetup
  cryptsetup-bin dnsutils fonts-liberation g++ g++-4.7 gcc gcc-4.7
  gcc-4.7-base gdebi gdebi-core geoip-database gir1.2-accountsservice-1.0
  gir1.2-gdesktopenums-3.0 gir1.2-gmenu-3.0 git git-man gnome-control-center
  gnome-control-center-data gnome-menus gsettings-desktop-schemas
  gstreamer0.10-gconf gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio
  icedtea-6-plugin icedtea-netx icedtea-netx-common icedtea-plugin
  icedtea6-plugin ifupdown imagemagick imagemagick-common iso-codes
  keyboard-configuration libaccountsservice0 libbind9-80 libcryptsetup4
  libdns81 libelf1 libgcc1 libgegl-0.2-0 libgfortran3
  libgl1-nvidia-alternatives libgl1-nvidia-glx libglx-nvidia-alternatives
  libgnome-menu-3-0 libgnutls26 libgomp1 libisc83 libisccc80 libisccfg82
  libitm1 libjs-jquery libjs-underscore liblwres80 libmagickcore5
  libmagickcore5-extra libmagickwand5 libmysqlclient18 libnettle4 libopenjpeg2
  libperl5.14 libqt4-dbus libqt4-declarative libqt4-designer libqt4-help
  libqt4-network libqt4-opengl libqt4-script libqt4-scripttools libqt4-sql
  libqt4-sql-mysql libqt4-svg libqt4-test libqt4-xml libqt4-xmlpatterns
  libqtcore4 libqtgui4 libquadmath0 libsbsms10 libspeex1 libspeexdsp1
  libstdc++6 libstdc++6-4.7-dev libusb-0.1-4 libwbclient0 libwxbase2.8-0
  libwxgtk2.8-0 libxnvctrl0 lsb-base lsb-release mysql-common
  nvidia-alternative nvidia-glx nvidia-installer-cleanup nvidia-kernel-amd64
  nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-kernel-dkms nvidia-settings nvidia-support
  nvidia-vdpau-driver nvidia-xconfig perl perl-base perl-modules
  python-mechanize python-pyparsing python-qt4 python-routes qdbus samba
  samba-common samba-common-bin smbclient ttf-liberation virtualbox
  virtualbox-dkms virtualbox-qt wpasupplicant xnest xserver-common
  xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-video-nvidia
133 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 157 MB of archives.
After this operation, 21.9 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?


Glenn

[SirSelim]

I'm no expert but I think the last line of your source's list is the culprit (deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing contrib non-free main). That line is pointing straight to the debian testing, while your others are all pointed at LMDE lastest.

You could try commenting it out and updating to see if things change.

To comment out that line, in terminal:

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sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list

Put a hash (#) in front of the offending line (deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing contrib non-free main), save and exit gedit.

Update the package lists and see if you still have the issue:

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sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

Again (as zerozero mentioned above) answer no to updates if there are any (hopefully there won't be!).

Hope this helps.

[zerozero]

well you better not install them, you have an extra line in your sources.list this time

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deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing contrib non-free main

this is debian testing, quite ahead of UP5 right now.
remove the line and do an update && dist-upgrade again, this time the output should be clear.

as a side note: going from the UP's update policy to track directly testing is not a bad thing itself (specially now that testing is frozen) but it has to be made in all the lines of the sources.list or you end up with mismatches; furthermore testing changes a lot quicker than the default lmde repos so you should expect issues and breakages more frequently as well.

EDIT: Hi SirSelim

[scotthge]

Thank you gentlemen, that took care of the problem. My question now is how did that line get in there ? I have not added anything after I got it straightened out the last time that zerozero helped me out.

I have removed that line and am going to do a back up image of the system, just in case.

Thank you both so much for your help. I really have to get some literature that explains some of this stuff so I will now what is going on. I got so I new Linux Mint pretty good but wanted to go to LMDE. now I have a lot of learning to do in order to get this system so I can keep it up and know what is going on.

Many thanks.

Glenn

[SirSelim]

Thank you gentlemen, that took care of the problem. My question now is how did that line get in there ? I have not added anything after I got it straightened out the last time that zerozero helped me out.

I have removed that line and am going to do a back up image of the system, just in case.

Thank you both so much for your help. I really have to get some literature that explains some of this stuff so I will now what is going on. I got so I new Linux Mint pretty good but wanted to go to LMDE. now I have a lot of learning to do in order to get this system so I can keep it up and know what is going on.

Many thanks.

Glenn

You're welcome. There is a really nice thread here (by Gerd50): viewtopic.php?f=197&t=79533 which explains some of the potential LMDE source list setups. At the bottom of the first post there are some incredibly useful links to information on many different Debian facets (I've found these to be really helpful in my continual learning).

EDIT: Hi SirSelim

Hi zerozero.

[zerozero]

unfortunately Gerd is not maintaining that topic lately (last update from June) so some of the info is at the moment out of date and more will be very soon.
i would be very careful using it (of course that the links and the additional info you can get from there is still valid)