Bizzare behavior after restart

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Bizzare behavior after restart

Postby Naslb on Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:19 pm

Good day!

I was previously usning Mint 11 untill it reached end-of-life so I backed up my software and files and downloaded Mint 14 Cinnamon, it worked well so I did a full fresh install formatting the old partition.

After that I restored my software and files, everything seemed to be working wonderfully and I was very happy with the result... untill I restarted, now the screen is fixed in the wrong resolution (1024 X 768 ) with no option to change ti to anything other than, 800 X 600, the menu is replaced by a text menu with no search options, there is a weird menu on the bottom right with options to shut down.. and Ubuntu help????
I no longer have a notification area or cinnamon options...
also the top left hot area (the one you use to switch between workspaces) is also non-functional..

I have not been able to find any possible explanation on my own (sorry I'm not too knowledable in the inner workngs) and would be immensly greatful to anyone who has an explanation or a suggestion of how to get the proper desktop back
If it helps I am using an HP DV6 pavillion laptop
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Re: Bizzare behavior after restart

Postby mank_in on Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:58 am

You are login to gnome-classic mode.
Maybe you can check graphic driver in use :
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inxi -Gx
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Re: Bizzare behavior after restart

Postby Flemur on Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:32 am

I had that happen reproducibly when I changed video drivers (from nvidia to nouveau, w/Xfce).

Try running:
$ sudo jockey-gtk

which will show you the available drivers and whether they're installed. For me changing back to nvidia fixed it.
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Re: Bizzare behavior after restart

Postby Naslb on Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:53 pm

Thank you very much for the responses!

inxi -Gx Resulted in

Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI M96 [Mobility Radeon HD 4650] bus-ID: 01:00.0
X.Org: 1.13.0 drivers: ati,vesa,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,fglrx) Resolution: 1024x768@0.0hz
GLX Renderer: N/A GLX Version: N/A Direct Rendering: N/A

sudo jockey-gtk resulted in:
sudo: jockey-gtk: command not found

I do know that my Graphics card is an ATI radeon one
Is there anyting I can do now
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Re: Bizzare behavior after restart

Postby Orbmiser on Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:15 pm

Naslb wrote:Thank you very much for the responses!

inxi -Gx Resulted in

Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI M96 [Mobility Radeon HD 4650] bus-ID: 01:00.0
X.Org: 1.13.0 drivers: ati,vesa,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,fglrx) Resolution: 1024x768@0.0hz
GLX Renderer: N/A GLX Version: N/A Direct Rendering: N/A

I do know that my Graphics card is an ATI radeon one
Is there anyting I can do now


mine showed being a ati 4350
Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV710 [Radeon HD 4350] bus-ID: 01:00.0
X.Org: 1.13.0 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1680x1050@60.0hz, 1680x1050@59.9hz
GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on AMD RV710 GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 9.0 Direct Rendering: Yes


Don't know how different our cards are? But bolded areas seem you don't have a sync value and not using Galium.
Just starting so all I can offer. And maybe someone else will pick up the ball and show you how to get right drivers installed.
Me sticking with default open drivers and no need for proprietary drivers.
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Re: Bizzare behavior after restart

Postby mank_in on Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:00 am

Naslb wrote:Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI M96 [Mobility Radeon HD 4650] bus-ID: 01:00.0
X.Org: 1.13.0 drivers: ati,vesa,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,fglrx) Resolution: 1024x768@0.0hz
GLX Renderer: N/A GLX Version: N/A Direct Rendering: N/A


Looks like your GLX renderer not running ( cinnamon need GLX renderer )
GLX renderer : fglrx ( ATI proprietary drivers)
GLX renderer : gallium 3D ( Radeon open source driver )

Open software source , click additional driver TAB, you can try installing ATI driver ( or open source driver )
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Re: Bizzare behavior after restart

Postby Naslb on Sun Dec 16, 2012 1:59 am

Thanks for the advice.

Unfortunately when I went to the additional drivers section I only got a message of "no propriety drivers are in use" combinet with grayed out options for "revert" and "apply changes" :-(
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Re: Bizzare behavior after restart

Postby mank_in on Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:33 am

maybe after you are restoring software and files,the restore process including some fglrx driver .
you can try blacklist fglrx module .
to see what module is loaded you can see :
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 lsmod


to blacklist fglrx :
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gksu gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf 

add line :
blacklist fglrx_pci
save, reboot
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Re: Bizzare behavior after restart

Postby Naslb on Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:10 am

Here is the output I got with lsmod:

Module Size Used by
snd_hrtimer 12744 1
pci_stub 12622 1
vboxpci 23157 0
vboxnetadp 25670 0
vboxnetflt 23442 0
vboxdrv 320371 3 vboxpci,vboxnetadp,vboxnetflt
coretemp 13400 0
kvm_intel 132759 0
kvm 414070 1 kvm_intel
joydev 17457 0
arc4 12529 2
snd_hda_codec_hdmi 32007 1
hp_wmi 18048 0
sparse_keymap 13890 1 hp_wmi
snd_hda_codec_idt 70209 1
snd_hda_intel 33491 5
snd_seq_midi 13324 0
snd_hda_codec 134212 3 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_idt,snd_hda_intel
snd_hwdep 13602 1 snd_hda_codec
uvcvideo 76749 0
videobuf2_core 32851 1 uvcvideo
videodev 120309 2 uvcvideo,videobuf2_core
videobuf2_vmalloc 12860 1 uvcvideo
videobuf2_memops 13368 1 videobuf2_vmalloc
snd_pcm 96580 3 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
ir_lirc_codec 12859 0
lirc_dev 19166 1 ir_lirc_codec
ir_mce_kbd_decoder 12723 0
snd_rawmidi 30512 1 snd_seq_midi
ir_sanyo_decoder 12513 0
ir_sony_decoder 12510 0
ir_jvc_decoder 12507 0
ir_rc6_decoder 12507 0
ir_rc5_decoder 12507 0
snd_seq_midi_event 14899 1 snd_seq_midi
ir_nec_decoder 12507 0
microcode 22803 0
snd_seq 61521 3 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
rc_rc6_mce 12502 0
snd_timer 29425 3 snd_hrtimer,snd_pcm,snd_seq
ene_ir 18320 0
rc_core 22330 11 ir_lirc_codec,ir_mce_kbd_decoder,ir_sanyo_decoder,ir_sony_decoder,ir_jvc_decoder,ir_rc6_decoder,ir_rc5_decoder,ir_nec_decoder,rc_rc6_mce,ene_ir
snd_seq_device 14497 3 snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
btusb 18334 0 fglrx_pci
parport_pc 32688 0
bnep 18140 2
ppdev 17073 0
rfcomm 46619 16
bluetooth 209199 22 btusb,bnep,rfcomm
hp_accel 25976 0
lis3lv02d 19829 1 hp_accel
mac_hid 13205 0
binfmt_misc 17500 1
input_polldev 13896 1 lis3lv02d
iwlwifi 386826 0
snd 78734 21 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_idt,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
psmouse 95552 0
jmb38x_ms 17416 0
mac80211 539908 1 iwlwifi
memstick 16554 1 jmb38x_ms
serio_raw 13215 0
cfg80211 206566 2 iwlwifi,mac80211
soundcore 15047 1 snd
lpc_ich 17061 0
snd_page_alloc 18484 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
lp 17759 0
parport 46345 3 parport_pc,ppdev,lp
btrfs 761721 0
zlib_deflate 26914 1 btrfs
libcrc32c 12644 1 btrfs
vesafb 13797 1
hid_generic 12493 0
video 19335 0
wmi 19070 1 hp_wmi
firewire_ohci 40401 0
firewire_core 64368 1 firewire_ohci
crc_itu_t 12707 1 firewire_core
sdhci_pci 18616 0
sdhci 32645 1 sdhci_pci
r8169 61650 0
usbhid 46947 0
hid 100366 2 hid_generic,usbhid


I tried blacklisting fglrx_pci as mentioned but there is no change upon restart
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Re: Bizzare behavior after restart

Postby mank_in on Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:30 am

Hmmmm . okay, try install radeon driver from ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers
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sudo add-apt-repository ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers

Run update manager, it will update ati driver
after that , reboot, check inxi -Gx again. If still no acceleration , try :
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sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg


after that , create xorg.conf
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gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf

add this line :
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Section "Device"
    Identifier "Radeon"
    Driver "radeon"
EndSection

save and reboot , check inxi -Gx again.
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Re: Bizzare behavior after restart

Postby Naslb on Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:19 pm

Thank you for the assistance :-)
I have followed the steps outlined above but the desktop does not seem to be changed :-(
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Re: Bizzare behavior after restart

Postby mank_in on Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:11 am

I don't have any idea . :(
Maybe you can try reinstall.
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Re: Bizzare behavior after restart

Postby esteban1uy on Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:35 am

What happens when you select "Cinnamon 2D" as session in MDM?
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Re: Bizzare behavior after restart

Postby zerozero on Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:06 am

mank_in wrote:
Naslb wrote:Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI M96 [Mobility Radeon HD 4650] bus-ID: 01:00.0
X.Org: 1.13.0 drivers: ati,vesa,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,fglrx) Resolution: 1024x768@0.0hz
GLX Renderer: N/A GLX Version: N/A Direct Rendering: N/A


Looks like your GLX renderer not running ( cinnamon need GLX renderer )
GLX renderer : fglrx ( ATI proprietary drivers)
GLX renderer : gallium 3D ( Radeon open source driver )

Open software source , click additional driver TAB, you can try installing ATI driver ( or open source driver )

there's no proprietary drivers support for this card anymore in mint 14;
- you'll have to uninstall all the traces of fglrx and use radeon;
- or use the ppa mank_in linked in another topic http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/10/how- ... egacy.html (mind you that this procedure has risks because you are downgrading xorg and installing a patched kernel as well, but some reports at the UB shows that it works)
- use mint 13 (still has support for those cards)
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Re: Bizzare behavior after restart

Postby Naslb on Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:48 pm

Using Cinnamon 2d results in a strange effect where there is NO menu and I can't make any window take focus, I couldn't open anything not on the desktop shortcut and once something was open I couldn't move it.. I had to do a hard reboot as there was no way that I know of to get to the logout option!


Thank you very much for the explanation!

May I ask a couple other questions please?
How would I go about removing fglrx and using radeon?
Are there any disadvantages to that?

Would it be better to reinstall and try to restore files manually?

Much appreaciated. :-)
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Re: Bizzare behavior after restart

Postby zerozero on Mon Dec 17, 2012 7:29 pm

i don't have amd/ati but this should give you a starting point https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
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Re: Bizzare behavior after restart

Postby Naslb on Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:14 am

Sorry for the delay, was away from my computer for a few days
Many thanks to all who offered their advice and help.
In the end I did a full reinstall and didn't restore files automatically. just manually.

Best regards
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