branded Firefox and Thunderbird
are same as the debian (unbranded) version of 'iceweasel and icedove'
and either way can get latestest version on web.
Upack system (exspeciasially since UPack 5 ISO wern't produced
) tend to be big. I too wish their was a 'core/lite' edition (mint debian packages can be accessed from web/repo
Ya the default system and included packages (Mono and Virtualbox are dependicies for other apps included) won't suit all. Some may be bloated others may not be enough (magic of debian installing and uninstalling).
May like a more leaner (whatever that means to you) debian. and install up.
P.S. I currentlly like Sparky linux (see my post in 'other distro discusion' forum