The far reaching US DOJ twisting of existing US Laws include any foreign website accepting US dollars OR utilising a US based (physically located in America) payment service such as paypal is being construed as including that foreign business as being held to hidden, nefarious and often far reaching US Internet laws!
You should realise FBI,NSA agents have demanded such IP users/client extended lists nearly routinely now, not only from USA IP providers,but also from foreign nations IP providers, DNS server staff, Search Engine CEO's etc. It is also routine for those US Agents to make very serious threats if their wide-open demands are not successful and very, very few CEO's much less corporate managers refuse such demands after those threats have been uttered to them.
When the U.S. Department of Justice working in conjunction with New Zealand’s law enforcement agencies took down the popular file-storage and sharing site Megaupload and arrested its executives, they never counted on the Internet-based hacker and protest group, Anonymous, attacking the Department of Justice (DoJ), Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA), Universal Music, and other Websites. And, they certainly didn’t expect for many of these sites to be taken down by this assault.
iironjade wrote:...charging gullible idiots for the privilege of breaking the law...
iironjade wrote, I don't think the people who ran Megaupload should be regarded as martyrs or heroes, they were making a fortune from other people's work, charging gullible idiots for the privilege of breaking the law and finally pushed their luck too far.
No safe harbor for you
Going after Megaupload, one of the most popular sites in the world and one that uses a surprising amount of corporate bandwidth, might seem a strange choice. (As an example of its scale, Megaupload controlled 525 servers in Virginia alone and had another 630 in the Netherlands—and many more around the world.) For years, the site has claimed to take down unauthorized content when notified by rightsholders. It has registered a DMCA agent with the US government. It has created an “abuse tool” and given rightsholders access. It has negotiated with companies like Universal Music Group about licensing content. And CEO Kim Dotcom sent this curious e-mail to PayPal in late 2011:
Our legal team in the US is currently preparing to sue some of our competitors and expose their criminal activity. We like to give you a heads up and advice [sic] you not to work with sites that are known to pay up loaders for pirated content. They are damaging the image and the existence of the file hosting industry (see what's happening with the Protect IP Act). Look at Fileserve.com, Videobb.com, Filesonic.com, Wupload.com, Uploadstation.com. These sites pay everyone (no matter if the files are pirated or not) and have NO repeat infringer policy. And they are using PayPal to pay infringers.
But the government asserts that Megaupload merely wanted the veneer of legitimacy, while its employees knew full well that the site's main use was to distribute infringing content. Indeed, the government points to numerous internal e-mails and chat logs from employees showing that they were aware of copyrighted material on the site and even shared it with each other. Because of this, the government says that the site does not qualify for a “safe harbor” of the kind that protected YouTube from Viacom's $1 billion lawsuit.
Megaupload purposely did business in the US and with US residents, and it targeted its sites (in part) toward the US. You generally can't gain the benefits of doing business in a jurisdiction without complying with its laws, and being subject to its enforcement efforts (assuming that the jurisdiction can physically gets its hands on you).
The indictment makes these points repeatedly. Megaupload wasn't just some Hong Kong enterprise that "happened" to be used by US residents. The site had leased more than 1,000 servers in North America alone; 525 were at Carpathia Hosting and were located in Virginia. Between 2007 and 2010, Carpathia received $13 million from Megaupload. (Cogent Communications in the US supplied a few additional US servers and bandwidth.)
The money was mainly routed through US-based PayPal, which is how Megaupload collected subscriptions from users looking for premium accounts. This wasn't chump change; the government claims that the Megaupload PayPal account has "received in excess of $110,000,000 from subscribers and other persons associated with Mega Conspiracy."
Megaupload also made money through ads, using services like Google's AdSense (until 2007) and the AdBrite network. Both are based in the US. AdBrite alone paid at least $840,000 to Megaupload. Payments were made to top uploaders, including those who lived in Virginia.
helterskelter wrote:I presume that by using the term "Goosestepping Feds" you mean" Overzealous law enforcement"?
To compare modern civilized Governmemt officials with the N-a-z-i-s is a bit "overzealous" on your part.
Watch a few more of the WWII programs on Discovery Channel etc. and rethink.
Your comparison leaves me wondering about your state of mind and general morality.
I hope I have not been "overzealous" in posting this. Peace.
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