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Re: LMDE UP6 ISOs?

Postby ElQuia on Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:43 am

Mr. B wrote:ElQuia,

You have your answer in the reply above yours.... :roll: even on the blog and in the other topic: viewtopic.php?f=189&p=680924#p680760
How about reading for once...?

Keep a eye on: http://community.linuxmint.com/iso
There you see when they are testing the iso's and when they are approved for RC and Final release.


Second, If you just kept LMDE installed and kept it up to date up to now you wouldn't have to complain about installing from a nearly Year old (distro) ISO. Unless you messed up your system or you want to install LMDE on someone elses computer, that of course is another story.

And if you are a distrohopper who loves to try out other distro's then there's always the dual or multi boot way to go.



Uhhhhm Yes Mr. B, you are right, my mistake, but no need to bash me :shock:
Thanks anyway :wink:
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Re: LMDE UP6 ISOs?

Postby laofzu on Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:09 pm

Ahh, wouldn't it be nice if all you had to do was keep doing the updates, and everything kept working as it should. In real life, that doesn't happen. Each update pack brings new problems to sort out, and usually requires a complete new install to get everything working again. Sometimes 2 or 3 installs! And, just when you have it all working again, then another update pack is released starting the whole cycle over again. Educational, but frustrating.
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Re: LMDE UP6 ISOs?

Postby zerozero on Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:41 pm

you know what? it actually can be done :D and in real life
first entry in synaptic's history
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Commit Log for Sun Mar 27 21:39:30 2011


Upgraded the following packages:
mintupdate (4.2.5) to 4.2.6

installed kernels (from the old 2.6.32 until the actual 3.2.0-4)
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 ~ $ dpkg -l | grep linux-image*
ii  linux-image-2.6-amd64                  3.2+46                             amd64        Linux for 64-bit PCs (dummy package)
ii  linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64             2.6.32-31                          amd64        Linux 2.6.32 for 64-bit PCs
ii  linux-image-2.6.38-2-amd64             2.6.38-5                           amd64        Linux 2.6.38 for 64-bit PCs
ii  linux-image-2.6.39-2-amd64             2.6.39-3                           amd64        Linux 2.6.39 for 64-bit PCs
ii  linux-image-3.0.0-1-amd64              3.0.0-3                            amd64        Linux 3.0.0 for 64-bit PCs
ii  linux-image-3.1.0-1-amd64              3.1.8-2                            amd64        Linux 3.1 for 64-bit PCs
ii  linux-image-3.2.0-1-amd64              3.2.6-1                            amd64        Linux 3.2 for 64-bit PCs
ii  linux-image-3.2.0-2-amd64              3.2.20-1                           amd64        Linux 3.2 for 64-bit PCs
ii  linux-image-3.2.0-3-amd64              3.2.23-1                           amd64        Linux 3.2 for 64-bit PCs
ii  linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64              3.2.35-2                           amd64        Linux 3.2 for 64-bit PCs
ii  linux-image-amd64                      3.2+46                             amd64        Linux for 64-bit PCs (meta-package)

this install went through the gnome2 - gnome3 transition without problems; was hit by one major bug: the xorg/nvidia incompatibility back in late sept 2011 (ahh and a couple tty's because of nvidia :mrgreen: )
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Re: LMDE UP6 ISOs?

Postby jjaythomas on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:23 pm

And if you are a distrohopper who loves to try out other distro's then there's always the dual or multi boot way to go.

Unless you messed up your system or you want to install LMDE on someone elses computer, that of course is another story.


A distro hopper but also install for other people once in a while. :)
I make a 'remastersys (the wheezy one works quite well) of the ISO upgraded to UPack6 (with few extras includinding rematersys with GUI.

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Re: LMDE UP6 ISOs?

Postby yro on Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:51 am

please, for others subjects, create another topic.

this topic is about the up6 isos, the release date, etc.

im waiting for the updated isos here but it will be nice to hear from clem some infos about the kernel version and the xorg server version.

I have an AMD Radeon HD 4350 wich is in the Legacy Branch, and I dont want to buy another videocard too soon... So itll be nice to know if the LMDE updated ISOs with UP6 will be compatible with the AMD Legacy drivers.

And dont come here with that crap of downgrading xrog, etc. That unicorns messes up with the hole OS (atleast in my machine).
sorry about my bad english... o.O
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Re: LMDE UP6 ISOs?

Postby Mr. B on Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:06 am

yro wrote:im waiting for the updated isos here but it will be nice to hear from clem some infos about the kernel version and the xorg server version.


Since Debian testing is used and according to UP6 you can expect the 3.2.0-4 Kernel. I believe xorg server is xserver-xorg? That would be the 1:7.7+1 version after i looked in Synaptic.
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Re: LMDE UP6 ISOs?

Postby zerozero on Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:50 am

re: xorg i believe is this we are talking about
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zerozero@deb-kde ~/Documents $ apt policy xserver-xorg-core
xserver-xorg-core:
  Installed: 2:1.12.4-4
  Candidate: 2:1.12.4-4
  Version table:
 *** 2:1.12.4-4 0
        500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
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Re: LMDE UP6 ISOs?

Postby yro on Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:12 pm

zerozero wrote:re: xorg i believe is this we are talking about
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zerozero@deb-kde ~/Documents $ apt policy xserver-xorg-core
xserver-xorg-core:
  Installed: 2:1.12.4-4
  Candidate: 2:1.12.4-4
  Version table:
 *** 2:1.12.4-4 0
        500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status



do you know if amd legacy is compatible with xserver 1.12."4"? on amd site they say that catalyst legacy is compatible with "1.12"...
sorry about my bad english... o.O
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LMDE Update Pack 6 isos

Postby iteration on Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:35 pm

Any word of late on the January 2013 ISOs? I'm just lazy I guess. I'd like to start from scratch.
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Re: LMDE Update Pack 6 isos

Postby 0xnak on Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:36 pm

wondering the same thing...
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Re: LMDE Update Pack 6 isos

Postby vrkalak on Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:34 pm

LMDE is based on Debians Testing Branch ... which has been in the 'freeze' stage of its development for the past 5-6 months.

So, everything in the LMDE / Debian 7 Testing Repros is pretty much FROZEN until Wheezy is released as 'Stable later this year.
Then, a new Testing Release is made for Debian 8 Jessie.

This is in reality a good time to do a fresh install of LMDE/Debian Wheezy.
If you keep LMDE/Wheezy updated, with the few updates that come along ... you will not become overwhelmed when Wheezy goes 'stable' and the OS is unfrozen. Last time, there were around 1500 undates in the first month or so.

Note: Last time the Testing Release went 'Stable' was on Feb 6th (a couple years back) ... so I'd be looking for Wheezy (testing) to go Stable anytime now.
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Re: LMDE Update Pack 6 isos

Postby 0xnak on Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:03 am

So are you saying that the new iso with UP6 and separate cinnamon and mate verisions is being delayed to wait for wheezy to go stable? I was really hoping that wasn't the case. The current iso's are getting a little long in the tooth and installing 1200+ updates (UP 6) on a new install of lmde is pretty time consuming.
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Re: LMDE Update Pack 6 isos

Postby cwwgateway on Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:16 am

0xnak wrote:So are you saying that the new iso with UP6 and separate cinnamon and mate verisions is being delayed to wait for wheezy to go stable? I was really hoping that wasn't the case. The current iso's are getting a little long in the tooth and installing 1200+ updates (UP 6) on a new install of lmde is pretty time consuming.

I believe they were supposed to enter QA either last week or this week, which means we'll hopefully have an RC soon. I'm looking forward to getting all of my installs ready for wheezy's release (I've been changing a lot recently, and I'm hoping to settle down).
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Re: LMDE Update Pack 6 isos

Postby Monsta on Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:09 am

cwwgateway wrote:I believe they were supposed to enter QA either last week or this week

And they just entered there: http://community.linuxmint.com/iso :)
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Re: LMDE Update Pack 6 isos

Postby 0xnak on Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:51 am

Cool! Thanks for the info. How long does the qa process typically take? Is it an internal thing only? If not, I'd be willing to help.
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Re: LMDE UP6 ISOs?

Postby cwwgateway on Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:11 pm

The ISOs have entered Q&A: http://community.linuxmint.com/iso.
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Re: LMDE Update Pack 6 isos

Postby zerozero on Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:22 pm

moving these posts into a separate topic :)

0xnak wrote:How long does the qa process typically take? Is it an internal thing only? If not, I'd be willing to help.
how long? hard to tell 8) they will be released when ready (we already had Q&A of a couple days and others of a week or more)

it's not internal so to speak: it's done by a team http://community.linuxmint.com/iso/team; you can apply as well (as far as i can gather at the moment the best approach is emailing Clem with the proposal)
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Re: LMDE Update Pack 6 isos

Postby rop75 on Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:31 pm

vrkalak wrote:LMDE is based on Debians Testing Branch ... which has been in the 'freeze' stage of its development for the past 5-6 months.

So, everything in the LMDE / Debian 7 Testing Repros is pretty much FROZEN until Wheezy is released as 'Stable later this year.
Then, a new Testing Release is made for Debian 8 Jessie.

This is in reality a good time to do a fresh install of LMDE/Debian Wheezy.
If you keep LMDE/Wheezy updated, with the few updates that come along ... you will not become overwhelmed when Wheezy goes 'stable' and the OS is unfrozen. Last time, there were around 1500 undates in the first month or so.

Note: Last time the Testing Release went 'Stable' was on Feb 6th (a couple years back) ... so I'd be looking for Wheezy (testing) to go Stable anytime now.


You forgot mentioning that this time is going to be much harder (you only have to see what it is gonna happen with the kernel version, gnome shell version, xserver version -important specially if you want to run the ATI legacy driver-...) it is gonna be really "fun".
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Re: LMDE UP6 ISOs?

Postby Ibex on Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:13 pm

cwwgateway wrote:The ISOs have entered Q&A: http://community.linuxmint.com/iso.


Great! So would you have an educated guess as to the approximate time-frame for finally releasing these iso's?
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Re: LMDE UP6 ISOs?

Postby cwwgateway on Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:36 am

Ibex wrote:
cwwgateway wrote:The ISOs have entered Q&A: http://community.linuxmint.com/iso.


Great! So would you have an educated guess as to the approximate time-frame for finally releasing these iso's?

I think the RC will come out next week unless any problems are found during the QA. I think the final version will come out later in the month, possibly around the 20th.
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