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Re: New KDE SC 4.10

Postby Malsasa on Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:58 pm

Orbmiser wrote:After a few hours testing seems to run great.
And a strange remember size & position with Gimp 2.8 but seem to figure it out and got it displaying properly.
Maybe due to theme change?

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Mint KDE 4.1.0 upgrade Feb. 7 Desktop by Orbmiser, on Flickr

On KDE 4.9.4 could ramp it up to 1-2gb in use multiple programs. After closing everything the desktop would only return to idle at 1.1gb or so. As fresh startup to desktop usually started out at 470-480mb for 4.9.4.

Notice on 4.10 drops down to under 1gb so seems more ram is being released. And KDE seems consistently 200-300mb lighter than Cinnamon 14 under same conditions & same apps being used. Also includes fresh startup with Cinnamon weighing in around 700-800mb to desktop. And KDE same user startup apps weighs in around 460mb-500mb.

Not scientific just day to day observation.
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Wow, it is so cool screenshots! What theme do you use? What configs? Thanks for your review. I've been waiting for this so long, and now I found it from you :) Now I wanna install KDE 4.10 more and more :)
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Re: New KDE SC 4.10

Postby Orbmiser on Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:27 am

Thanks Theme is Ghost Deco 2.2 found in the Get More Themes on desktop settings.
Wallpaper is my image donated to mint art.org link in my signature.
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Re: New KDE SC 4.10

Postby Malsasa on Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:50 am

Thank you. But, hey! How do you create your image in signature? It is cool for me! Can i get the tutorial? I am insterested in. I am Inkscape user.

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Re: New KDE SC 4.10

Postby Orbmiser on Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:33 am

I didn't there is a thread here somewhere where a forum member artist creates them and post them.
Called signature or user bars? I think.

Can snatch mine just right-click on it and save as. Then upload to pic hosting site and can imbed code in signature.
Or use mine.

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[img]http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss317/orb9220/MintKDESigUser-SupporterSmaller_zps53ac3914.png[/img]


Just copy the code above and insert into your signature block in forum user control panel .
But have to donate a few bucks to Mint to be called a supporter.http://linuxmint.com/donors.php
Otherwise there are other Mint & KDE signature bars in one of the threads here.
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Re: New KDE SC 4.10

Postby Malsasa on Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:10 am

Orbmiser wrote:I didn't there is a thread here somewhere where a forum member artist creates them and post them.
Called signature or user bars? I think.

Can snatch mine just right-click on it and save as. Then upload to pic hosting site and can imbed code in signature.
Or use mine.

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[img]http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss317/orb9220/MintKDESigUser-SupporterSmaller_zps53ac3914.png[/img]


Just copy the code above and insert into your signature block in forum user control panel .
But have to donate a few bucks to Mint to be called a supporter.http://linuxmint.com/donors.php
Otherwise there are other Mint & KDE signature bars in one of the threads here.
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Not, not the point I asked to you. I mean, how to create the picture? Can I do it by Inkscape? Is there any tutorial in design? :) Thanks...
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Re: New KDE SC 4.10

Postby Orbmiser on Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:22 am

Sorry don't use inkscape and haven't a clue about making one myself.
Which I imagine you could do also in Gimp.
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Re: New KDE SC 4.10

Postby jazz.h on Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:31 am

Help!

I also tried to upgrade my Mint13KDE to 4.10, first I did:

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sudo apt-get dist-upgrade


which updated my kernel from 3.2.0-23 (not sure about the last number) to 3.2.0-27 (not sure either, but I remembered it was a minor change).

Rebooted, everything OK. Then I performed this:

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sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports


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sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade


but this resulted in some error in line 3, so I opened the list file and deleted the whole line. Then it processed fine, after 20 minutes the output was clear no errors, as far as I could see, but when I tried this:

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sudo apt-get -f install


it immediatelly said no packages to install, remove or anything...

and this:

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sudo apt-get dist-upgrade


the same answer.

So I rebooted, grub menu was correct, then it started with boot messages and after a few secconds I'm getting a console root (Welcome to Linux Mint Maya KDE), OK my usuall username, then password... ok, but no graphical session afterwards, just a blinking console.

What should I do next/type in the console?

EDIT: startx was the command (thanks to Se7en from the #linuxmint-chat :D )
Now it's fine... The 1st thing I did was to enable automatic user login and passwordless login, but the startx doesn't start automatically
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Re: New KDE SC 4.10

Postby Orbmiser on Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:23 am

Instructions are for theLinux Mint 14 “Nadia” KDE released! not upgrading from 13 I imagine.
Don't know how with any other upgrade paths?
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Re: New KDE SC 4.10

Postby Zalbor on Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:34 am

Is it "safe" to use in Mint 14 KDE?
I'm asking because I upgraded KDE in a previous version of Mint (to 4.8, if I'm not mistaken) and although most things were fine I lost some functionality, like the "edit menu" option when right clicking on the panel's menu.
I don't want that to happen again.
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Re: New KDE SC 4.10

Postby wyz on Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:17 am

When I installed Linux Mint 14 KDE 64 bit in late December I was so happy with it I vowed I wasn't going to gamble with the great stability of the distro and upgrade to KDE 4.10 until it came out in the next release. However when I read on the forum that a number of KDE users had installed the new version with no problems I started having second thoughts. Yesaterday, using ZeroZero's instructions, I took the leap and installed KDE 4.10. While I was initially apprehensive I am now so glad I did, as it runs smooth as silk with no problems whatsoever. Granted I haven't run it very long, and my tests are in their infancy, but my computer has never run better. This desktop is awesome! Version 4.10 simply makes an already polished desktop sparkle even brighter!
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Re: New KDE SC 4.10

Postby zerozero on Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:26 pm

jazz.h wrote:but this resulted in some error in line 3, so I opened the list file and deleted the whole line. Then it processed fine, after 20 minutes the output was clear no errors, as far as I could see, but when I tried this:

this is not very helpful
"some error" what error?
"in line 3" what line 3?
it's hard to help you without knowing exactly what happened and what you did
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Re: New KDE SC 4.10

Postby jazz.h on Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:19 pm

Orbmiser wrote:Instructions are for theLinux Mint 14 “Nadia” KDE released!


Sorry, but I didn't see in this thread it was specifically for Min14KDE...
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Re: New KDE SC 4.10

Postby jazz.h on Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:25 pm

zerozero wrote:
jazz.h wrote:"some error" what error?
"in line 3" what line 3?


It was about the invalid apt sources in line 3. Some term like "ain" or similar. Sorry I can't remember. Tell me how to search this through log and I will report exactly about it.
Anyway, it seems everything is working fine, exept I can't start startx automatically...

EDIT: I found it in my Firefox search history:
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E:Type 'ain' is not known on line 3 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/kubuntu-ppa-backports-precise.list


And I deleted the whole line as I found here -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/96967/how-do-i-fix-this-etype-is-not-known-on-line-in-source-list-update

This line should be incomplete and start with the unknown type the update process is complaining about (here ain). Just delete the whole line, save the file, and close the editor*.
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Re: New KDE SC 4.10

Postby jazz.h on Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:22 pm

In the meantime, while searching the forum for a similar problem, I encountered I wasn't the only one (exactly the same story)...
http://forum.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=125058&p=687777#p687777
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Re: New KDE SC 4.10

Postby zerozero on Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:25 pm

ahh i see
please provide us 2 outputs
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inxi -r
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apt policy kdm
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Re: New KDE SC 4.10

Postby Siarra on Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:07 pm

As we reporting the same issue at http://forum.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.ph ... 33#p687833 here are my outputs:

daniello@Daniello-PC ~ $ inxi -r
Repos: Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://apt.insynchq.com/mint maya non-free
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/kubuntu-ppa-backports-precise.list
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu precise main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu precise main
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ precise free non-free
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mint.list
deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ maya main upstream import backport
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/n-muench-burg-precise.list
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/n-muench/burg/ubuntu precise main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/n-muench/burg/ubuntu precise main
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu.list
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ precise partner
daniello@Daniello-PC ~ $ apt policy kdm
kdm:
Installed: 4:4.10.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04.2~ppa1
Candidate: 4:4.10.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04.2~ppa1
Version table:
*** 4:4.10.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04.2~ppa1 0
500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
4:4.8.5-0ubuntu0.3 0
500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/main amd64 Packages
4:4.8.2a-0ubuntu4 0
500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages

Thanks a lot.
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Re: New KDE SC 4.10

Postby jazz.h on Sat Feb 16, 2013 4:18 am

Strange... After yesterday's digging into the problem, I performed a Mint Update and it found a bunch of libs... about 15mb, they all had 4.10 in their names... and today KDE booted automatically in graphical mode (!?!). I hope this will be permanent behaviour :D

Anyway, here are the outputs to zerozero's suggestions:

$ inxi -r
Repos: Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/colingille-freshlight-precise.list
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/colingille/freshlight/ubuntu/ precise main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/colingille/freshlight/ubuntu/ precise main
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/danielrichter2007-grub-customizer-precise.list
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/danielrichter2 ... er/ubuntu/ precise main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/danielrichter2 ... er/ubuntu/ precise main
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/i-nex-development-team-stable-precise.list
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/i-nex-developm ... le/ubuntu/ precise main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/i-nex-developm ... le/ubuntu/ precise main
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/jd-team-jdownloader-precise.list
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/jd-team/jdownloader/ubuntu/ precise main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/jd-team/jdownloader/ubuntu/ precise main
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/kilian-f_lux-precise.list
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kilian/f.lux/ubuntu/ precise main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/kilian/f.lux/ubuntu/ precise main
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mint.list
deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ maya main upstream import
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nemh-gambas3-precise.list
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/nemh/gambas3/ubuntu/ precise main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/nemh/gambas3/ubuntu/ precise main
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nilarimogard-webupd8-precise.list
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/nilarimogard/webupd8/ubuntu/ precise main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/nilarimogard/webupd8/ubuntu/ precise main
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/noobslab-icons-precise.list
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/noobslab/icons/ubuntu/ precise main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/noobslab/icons/ubuntu/ precise main
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/stebbins-handbrake-releases-precise.list
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/stebbins/handb ... es/ubuntu/ precise main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/stebbins/handb ... es/ubuntu/ precise main
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/tualatrix-ppa-precise.list
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tualatrix/ppa/ubuntu/ precise main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/tualatrix/ppa/ubuntu/ precise main
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu.list
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ precise partner


And:

$ apt policy kdm
kdm:
Installed: 4:4.10.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04.2~ppa1
Candidate: 4:4.10.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04.2~ppa1
Version table:
*** 4:4.10.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04.2~ppa1 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
4:4.8.5-0ubuntu0.3 0
500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/main amd64 Packages
4:4.8.2a-0ubuntu4 0
500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages

kdm:
Installed: 4:4.10.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04.2~ppa1
Candidate: 4:4.10.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04.2~ppa1
Version table:
*** 4:4.10.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04.2~ppa1 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
4:4.8.5-0ubuntu0.3 0
500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/main amd64 Packages
4:4.8.2a-0ubuntu4 0
500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages

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Re: New KDE SC 4.10

Postby jazz.h on Sat Feb 16, 2013 4:31 am

I just remembered 2 more issues regarding the graphics card...

1. My graphics card is ATI HD3200 and I wasn't using proprietary drivers. Before upgrading KDE, after dist upgrade and new kernel to 3.2.0-37 on my MintKDE 64bit, upon reboot I noticed distorted screen picture on my 22" monitor 1680x1050, display was saying it was the right resolution and refresh rate (59.9hz) but the whole picture was shifted to right, I tried changing the resolution to 1280x1024 then back to 1680x1050 but it was the same. It was distorted until I performed auto adjust on my monitor. I assume it's now the horizontal refresh a little different than before.
I don't know if this has to do anything with startx.

2. When upgraded to KDE and while inspecting the problem I came back to Display properties in System settings and I changed Primary output to be VGA-0 because it was set to None (this card also has hdmi output). Perhaps this fixed startx before the mint updates...?
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Re: New KDE SC 4.10

Postby Siarra on Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:04 am

I found the resolution in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1859820&page=2. I noticecd that after manual load of X'es and KDE 4.10 my fonts were actually not rendered at all and the first initial load was always freezing at "Checking battery state ... " So I did:
sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-experimental-310 nvidia-settings-experimental-310
sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
reboot
And... still the same issue :(
However now my fonts were nice and silky.

The only option that actually does the trick for mew is to get rid of xorg.conf file from /etc/X11 completely. Once xorg.conf was removed (renamed) X'es and KDE 4.10 starts loading properly. Though I'm not sure how it is affecting other things in system and KDE itself.

Any help end advise would be greatly appreciated ;)

Thanks again.
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Re: New KDE SC 4.10

Postby zerozero on Sat Feb 16, 2013 11:57 am

jazz.h and Siarra
i would advise both to open topics to debug the issues that you are experimenting specially because none of those issues is directly related with the kde upgrade:

- jazz.h doesn't even has kubuntu/backports in the sources.list and one could (eventually) assume that the upgrade to 4.10 was only partial

- Siarra has (as far as i can tell) graphic card issues consequence of the first dist-upgrade and the kernel upgrade and not the kde upgrade (that was one of the reasons i advised to do the upgrade in 2 steps in my post above)
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