xenopeek wrote:The default MATE has two panels and the Applications | Places | System menu, it's the customization done by Linux Mint that turns it into one panel with one integrated menu...
Fortunately the MATE Panels can be easily customized, so two (or even more) panels and the 'original' Gnome 2/MATE tri-Menu can be set up easily.
The new 'Gnome Classic' session is a half bottomed try to give people what they want, but imho it's primitive, unconfigurable and relies on some primitive Gnome 'extensions'. The old fallback aka Gnome-panel' was much better in regards of customisation although the 'thou shall not alter our brand identity' Gnome devs hid the configurability behind alt-rightclick ( mutter) or ctrl-alt-rightclick (compiz) because otherwise their targetted ultra idiot users could "change things unintentionally" or just because the main Gnome 3 Designer
! hates configurabilty.
To Quote JonMcCann here: Each time I see “Remove from panel” when I right click on the notification area or the menu system I weep and my mascara runs and god is it awful.
The Gnome guys also said, they dropped the fallback mode in 3.8 because there were not enough gnome maintainers to maintain it, but now they seem to have enough maintainers to maintain their new extensions. Ridiculous, like anything that comes from the braindead Gnome Shell team.
They lie to everyone (Vincent Untz 2010: Gnome Panel will exist throughout the whole lifespan of Gnome 3....) just to shove their "Do it our way,we know better what you want than yourself" shell atrocity up or down a user's body opening of their choice.
To get better insight on the twisted and confused thoughts of the main Gnome devs/designers,I recommend to read this article: http://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/gnome-et-al-rotting-in-threes/