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Re: firefox in mint 14 is a bad idea

Postby igor83 on Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:26 pm

raymerjacque wrote:Are you guys listening to yourselves ?

"FF is great "unless...." , FF is great "as long as you don'...", FF is great "except for...."


All things under the sun are described thus. There is nothing exceptional about that. Let's describe something else in the same manner--money.

Money is great, unless somebody whacks you for it. Money is great, as long as you don't go to jail for embezzlement. Money is great, except for the taxes you have to pay.

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Re: firefox in mint 14 is a bad idea

Postby ultraviolet on Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:44 pm

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ultraviolet wrote:My 64bit cinnamon version of firefox randomly crashes on 1080p youtube videos, Such a shame as its flawless everywhere else on the web.

Anyone know how i can permanently stop this?


FF has never been very stable, and if you dont keep your flash/addons and such up to date can cause problems not to mention its gotten slower and slower with each release and resource consumption has gotten higher and higher. Install opera, you will notice a world of difference and have none of these problems. I used to use FF myself and had endless problems with it, they fix one thing in a new release and break another, not to mention with new release bunch of addons stop working and you end up waiting weeks for devs to update them.... I have NONE of these problems with opera, I cant explain the pleasure it is to use a browser that simply just works out the box without problems.


i'm a massive fan of Opera aswel, and i'm looking forward to when they integrate the WebKit engine into the browser, as some of my websites i visit still don't load properly
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Re: firefox in mint 14 is a bad idea

Postby podagee on Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:59 pm

i've been doing some browser shopping and im using maxthon browser most of the time.its really light on resources.there is succession in llinux but i haven't tried it yet,but,on windows it runs really nicely.just an idea for an alternative.
as far as opera,its just as heavy as FF
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Re: firefox in mint 14 is a bad idea

Postby kmb42vt on Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:54 am

podagee wrote:i've been doing some browser shopping and im using maxthon browser most of the time.its really light on resources.there is succession in llinux but i haven't tried it yet,but,on windows it runs really nicely.just an idea for an alternative.
as far as opera,its just as heavy as FF


Unfortunately, Maxthon is not available for Linux. It used to be available for Windows only and required IE's Trident rendering engine in order to work as it didn't come with it's own. Now it appears to be it's own self contained browser but the Maxthon website doesn't provide any details about this that I can find. Glad it works for you. Perhaps someday they'll build a version for Linux users.
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Re: firefox in mint 14 is a bad idea

Postby beachgardener on Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:58 am

kmb42vt wrote:
beachgardener wrote:firefox 19 in my LM 14.1 Cinnamon is broken, no drop down list for address bar (something i use a lot), and no buttons in bookmark toolbar.
i have had so much problem with 14, i think i'll try xfce next time, see if that works better, cinnamon leaves me with no icons most of the time


Works fine for me, no problems. Drop down list works as it always has. Not too sure what you mean by no buttons in the bookmarks toolbar. A long shot here but did you check to see if your bookmarks are missing?


yes bookmarks is there, they weren't for a while, i don't use bookmarks much, prefer the address bar drop down list and speed dial for the few sites i visit, anyways, seems that the drop down list is working again, don't know how or why.
i did try to install opera, i used to use it heaps ages ago, it installed but would not run, last time i tried opera on mint it hads problems too, it was in the repo this time though.

seems that i need a more stable operating system or at least desktop system.
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Re: firefox in mint 14 is a bad idea

Postby kmb42vt on Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:18 am

beachgardener wrote:
kmb42vt wrote:
beachgardener wrote:firefox 19 in my LM 14.1 Cinnamon is broken, no drop down list for address bar (something i use a lot), and no buttons in bookmark toolbar.
i have had so much problem with 14, i think i'll try xfce next time, see if that works better, cinnamon leaves me with no icons most of the time


Works fine for me, no problems. Drop down list works as it always has. Not too sure what you mean by no buttons in the bookmarks toolbar. A long shot here but did you check to see if your bookmarks are missing?


yes bookmarks is there, they weren't for a while, i don't use bookmarks much, prefer the address bar drop down list and speed dial for the few sites i visit, anyways, seems that the drop down list is working again, don't know how or why.
i did try to install opera, i used to use it heaps ages ago, it installed but would not run, last time i tried opera on mint it hads problems too, it was in the repo this time though.

seems that i need a more stable operating system or at least desktop system.


Just out of curiosity, what are your system specs, especially the graphics hardware? The reason I ask is that Linux Mint 14.1 (fully updated) has been rock stable on both my laptop (ThinkPad R61, Intel Core2 Duo w/2.0 GB DDR2, Intel 965 chipset and GM3100 HD graphics) and my desktop (Intel Core2 Quad w/8.0 GB DDR2, Intel chipset and Nvidia GT 430 video card w/ 1.0 GB DDR3). No problems at all. I did install Opera from the repos just to check and it installed and worked fine. If your system is older you also might want to check the S.M.A.R.T data for your hard disk as well (via the "Disks" app) as a redundancy check. You never know. It just sounds like that there's more wrong than just Mint 14.1/Cinnamon.
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Re: firefox in mint 14 is a bad idea

Postby rbeltz48 on Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:56 pm

OK guys and gals. The last good version of Firefox was 3.6.25 or 3.6.28. It has been all downhill since then with their releases every time the wind blows. I rolled back to Firefox 11.0 with Mint 13 and it IS STILL buggy. Mozilla had a really good thing going with Firefox but they blew it.

Can anyone recommend a better browser for Mint? Let me know. Thanks.
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Re: firefox in mint 14 is a bad idea

Postby beachgardener on Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:00 pm

yes, rbeltz48, here are some specs, the 1gb hdd is the oldest bit and smart enabled, no errors yet, psu is a new coolermaster gx450, the system as such seems ok, i have done heaps to this one in experimenting, thus several repair installs, but i've had trouble with cinnamon from the start, opera has played up and couldn't update it, loosing icons all the time http://i49.tinypic.com/2aik6md.jpg, i'm shortly going to update the kernel from the .17 to the .25 version available via synaptic.
soon i will test the mate and kde version on another machine, see if i like them, maybe go with mate of kde later on.
other thing is the native pdf reader has trouble with some pdf's, can you recommend a different reader? cheers :)
ps. forgot to add it is dual boot with win7. mint being my main system.
seabird@seabird-system ~ $ inxi -Fz
System: Host: seabird-system Kernel: 3.5.0-17-generic x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: Gnome Distro: Linux Mint 14 Nadia
Machine: Mobo: ASUSTeK model: P8H77-M LE version: Rev X.0x Bios: American Megatrends version: 1005 date: 10/11/2012
CPU: Dual core Intel Pentium CPU G850 (-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx)
Clock Speeds: 1: 1600.00 MHz 2: 1600.00 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA G92 [GeForce GTS 250]
X.Org: 1.13.0 drivers: (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) FAILED: nouveau Resolution: 1920x1080@60.0hz, 1920x1080@60.0hz
GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on NV92 GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 9.0.2
Audio: Card-1: C-Media CMI8788 [Oxygen HD Audio] driver: snd_virtuoso Sound: ALSA ver: 1.0.25
Card-2: Microsoft LifeCam HD-5000 driver: USB Audio
Network: Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller driver: r8169
IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives: HDD Total Size: 3000.6GB (0.5% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD20EARX size: 2000.4GB
2: id: /dev/sdb model: SAMSUNG_HD103SJ size: 1000.2GB
Partition: ID: / size: 19G used: 4.0G (23%) fs: ext4 ID: /boot size: 939M used: 46M (6%) fs: ext3
ID: /home size: 449G used: 9.5G (3%) fs: ext4 ID: swap-1 size: 2.00GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap
RAID: No RAID devices detected - /proc/mdstat and md_mod kernel raid module present
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 29.8C mobo: 27.8C gpu: 53.0
Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info: Processes: 138 Uptime: 1:27 Memory: 649.9/7942.2MB Client: Shell inxi: 1.8.4
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Re: firefox in mint 14 is a bad idea

Postby justy39 on Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:21 pm

I am not one for firefox. Main issue is, it has too much customization. It has 2-3 different fonts you got to mess with. You need a addon so it keeps fonts the same scale size across the internet. I just see it as a poorly developed browser. A good browser only takes one button and it's set it and forget it. That's why I stick with chromium. If I had to readjust my car door every time I used it. It would be in the junkyard.
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Re: firefox in mint 14 is a bad idea

Postby rbeltz48 on Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:33 pm

Earlier versions of Opera were also good. After Ver. 8 or 9 they also went downhill. Since the Chrome browser belongs to Google, thanks but NO thanks. I rarely use Google as a search engine. They're just like Microsoft: they want to control the world!
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Re: firefox in mint 14 is a bad idea

Postby kmb42vt on Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:55 pm

beachgardener wrote:yes, rbeltz48, here are some specs, the 1gb hdd is the oldest bit and smart enabled, no errors yet, psu is a new coolermaster gx450, the system as such seems ok, i have done heaps to this one in experimenting, thus several repair installs, but i've had trouble with cinnamon from the start, opera has played up and couldn't update it, loosing icons all the time, i'm shortly going to update the kernel from the .17 to the .25 version available via synaptic.
soon i will test the mate and kde version on another machine, see if i like them, maybe go with mate of kde later on.
other thing is the native pdf reader has trouble with some pdf's, can you recommend a different reader? cheers :)
ps. forgot to add it is dual boot with win7. mint being my main system.
seabird@seabird-system ~ $ inxi -Fz
System: Host: seabird-system Kernel: 3.5.0-17-generic x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: Gnome Distro: Linux Mint 14 Nadia
Machine: Mobo: ASUSTeK model: P8H77-M LE version: Rev X.0x Bios: American Megatrends version: 1005 date: 10/11/2012
CPU: Dual core Intel Pentium CPU G850 (-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx)
Clock Speeds: 1: 1600.00 MHz 2: 1600.00 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA G92 [GeForce GTS 250]
X.Org: 1.13.0 drivers: (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) FAILED: nouveau Resolution: 1920x1080@60.0hz, 1920x1080@60.0hz
GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on NV92 GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 9.0.2
Audio: Card-1: C-Media CMI8788 [Oxygen HD Audio] driver: snd_virtuoso Sound: ALSA ver: 1.0.25
Card-2: Microsoft LifeCam HD-5000 driver: USB Audio
Network: Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller driver: r8169
IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives: HDD Total Size: 3000.6GB (0.5% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD20EARX size: 2000.4GB
2: id: /dev/sdb model: SAMSUNG_HD103SJ size: 1000.2GB
Partition: ID: / size: 19G used: 4.0G (23%) fs: ext4 ID: /boot size: 939M used: 46M (6%) fs: ext3
ID: /home size: 449G used: 9.5G (3%) fs: ext4 ID: swap-1 size: 2.00GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap
RAID: No RAID devices detected - /proc/mdstat and md_mod kernel raid module present
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 29.8C mobo: 27.8C gpu: 53.0
Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info: Processes: 138 Uptime: 1:27 Memory: 649.9/7942.2MB Client: Shell inxi: 1.8.4
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I see your problem and it's video related. Your there's no hardware driver loaded for the GTS 250 so the system reverted to using the software renderer (GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on NV92 GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 9.0.2). The Gallium 0.4 is the software driver that's used when the video hardware driver fails to load. This slows down you system and especially your browser and can cause all sorts of glitches, like menus not dropping down.

Initially, when Mint 14/Cinnamon was first released, it was the MDM display manager that caused the Nvidia driver to not load so the system reverted to software rendering using the Gallium 0.4 software driver. This was fixed in Linux Mint 14.1/Cinnamon. In your case it seems that no Nvida driver was ever installed.

So, the first thing you want to do is make sure your install is fully updated via MintUpdate. Then, open a terminal window and type in the following:

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inxi -G


And check the last line in the results. If it states something like "GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on NV92 GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 9.0.2" then there's no Nvidia driver loaded.

Once that's done you'll want to open "Software Sources" (it takes several seconds to open as it scans for hardware drivers before opening) and switch to the "Additional drivers" tab. You should see a list of available drivers for your Nvidia card. If it shows that none are installed then you can install any of the Nvidia drivers listed. The safest bet is the one that ends with ..."nvidia-current (proprietary, tested)". If the Nouveau driver shows installed, this will remove it during the Nvidia driver install. Once the install is completed, reboot. Once logged back in, open a terminal window and run "inxi -G" and the last line should show which Nvidia driver is loaded. if you installed the one I mentioned earlier, the driver should be the 304 driver I believe.

Anyway, hope this helps.
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Re: firefox in mint 14 is a bad idea

Postby kmb42vt on Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:12 pm

justy39 wrote:I am not one for firefox. Main issue is, it has too much customization. It has 2-3 different fonts you got to mess with. You need a addon so it keeps fonts the same scale size across the internet. I just see it as a poorly developed browser. A good browser only takes one button and it's set it and forget it. That's why I stick with chromium. If I had to readjust my car door every time I used it. It would be in the junkyard.


Firefox is hardly a poorly developed browser (if it was I wouldn't have used it all these years) and no browser is one button, set it and forget it. All are customizable, including the fonts (more or less). And Fireofx is the only browser that has "Text only Zoom". But to get to Firefox fonts. Open "Preferences" and switch to the "Content" tab. Under "Fonts and Colors" click the "Advance" button. Simply uncheck "Allow pages to choose their own fonts, instead of my selections above". Now, choose your font size for "proportional" and "monospace" then set the minimum font size and you're done. One font size for all pages. I also recommend the "NoSquint" extension for Firefox. Leave the preferences alone and set each page font size on each page you visit till it's comfortable for you via NoSquint (fonts and images or just fonts) and NoSquint will remember those settings for each page from then on as you set it to do so in it's preferences.

I also use Chrome and (occasionally) Opera as I design my own website but Firefox is my main browser. :)
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Re: firefox in mint 14 is a bad idea

Postby beachgardener on Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:38 pm

kmb42vt, thanks for looking into it, i will get onto it.
thing is, in the past i have always loaded the nvidia driver, not sure why i haveny recently, maybe i thought it was ok without, obviously not :)
i'll get back to you, cheers.

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Graphics: Card: NVIDIA G92 [GeForce GTS 250]
X.Org: 1.13.0 drivers: (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) FAILED: nouveau Resolution: 1920x1080@60.0hz, 1920x1080@60.0hz
GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on NV92 GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 9.0.2
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Re: firefox in mint 14 is a bad idea

Postby beachgardener on Sat Mar 02, 2013 1:26 am

now is:
seabird@seabird-system ~ $ inxi -G
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA G92 [GeForce GTS 250]
X.Org: 1.13.0 drivers: (unloaded: fbdev,vesa,nouveau) FAILED: nvidia Resolution: 1920x1080@60.0hz, 1920x1080@60.0hz
GLX Renderer: GeForce GTS 250/PCIe/SSE2 GLX Version: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 304.43
seabird@seabird-system ~ $

all the icons are visible again, yay, thanks for that. on reboot it hung at gts250 bios, then pressed restart button and it came good.
one thing that got me was before installing nvidia drivers, i marked and applied the kernel upgrade, (and did other updates which included firefox), but it didn't work.
as of now:
seabird@seabird-system ~ $ uname -a
Linux seabird-system 3.5.0-17-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 9 19:31:23 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
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Re: firefox in mint 14 is a bad idea

Postby igor83 on Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:40 pm

kmb42vt wrote:
justy39 wrote:I am not one for firefox. Main issue is, it has too much customization. It has 2-3 different fonts you got to mess with. You need a addon so it keeps fonts the same scale size across the internet. I just see it as a poorly developed browser. A good browser only takes one button and it's set it and forget it. That's why I stick with chromium. If I had to readjust my car door every time I used it. It would be in the junkyard.


Firefox is hardly a poorly developed browser (if it was I wouldn't have used it all these years) and no browser is one button, set it and forget it. All are customizable, including the fonts (more or less). And Fireofx is the only browser that has "Text only Zoom". But to get to Firefox fonts. Open "Preferences" and switch to the "Content" tab. Under "Fonts and Colors" click the "Advance" button. Simply uncheck "Allow pages to choose their own fonts, instead of my selections above". Now, choose your font size for "proportional" and "monospace" then set the minimum font size and you're done. One font size for all pages. I also recommend the "NoSquint" extension for Firefox. Leave the preferences alone and set each page font size on each page you visit till it's comfortable for you via NoSquint (fonts and images or just fonts) and NoSquint will remember those settings for each page from then on as you set it to do so in it's preferences.

I also use Chrome and (occasionally) Opera as I design my own website but Firefox is my main browser. :)


Here, here!
I've never noticed any problem with Firefox fonts, although if you tinker with 'em you might mess 'em up, and I have done that before :mrgreen: -- being an incessant tinkerer.

Okay I'm going to spell it out: the reason to love Firefox is because of the gifts from Heaven, the add-ons Auto Fill Forms, AdBlock, and Stylish. Without the last two, I don't think I could endure today's Internet at all, because web designers seem to be under the delusion that bright, glaring, and loud is the way to go with their web sites. I am of a different opinion and prefer soft, dark, and quiet, as unobtrusive as a book as possible. I have coded about a dozen or so .css styles for various web sites that I like to visit and I share them on userstyles.org.

The non-pragmatic reason I love Firefox is that it is not owned by a corporation. In my experience, corporations ruin things. Somehow or another, they find a way--very creative in that department. IE has security problems, and Chrome, I'm wondering how Chrome enhances the value of Google's share price; there is no other reason that Chrome would exist at all. So it is free to use, but why? How does Chrome benefit Google? I don't know the answer to that. I also don't know why Google went to the awful lot of trouble to create a brand new Internet browser and throw so much developer muscle into it that it is now considered a serious competitor and preferred by some.
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Re: firefox in mint 14 is a bad idea

Postby kmb42vt on Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:25 pm

beachgardener wrote:now is:
seabird@seabird-system ~ $ inxi -G
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA G92 [GeForce GTS 250]
X.Org: 1.13.0 drivers: (unloaded: fbdev,vesa,nouveau) FAILED: nvidia Resolution: 1920x1080@60.0hz, 1920x1080@60.0hz
GLX Renderer: GeForce GTS 250/PCIe/SSE2 GLX Version: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 304.43
seabird@seabird-system ~ $

all the icons are visible again, yay, thanks for that. on reboot it hung at gts250 bios, then pressed restart button and it came good.
one thing that got me was before installing nvidia drivers, i marked and applied the kernel upgrade, (and did other updates which included firefox), but it didn't work.
as of now:
seabird@seabird-system ~ $ uname -a
Linux seabird-system 3.5.0-17-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 9 19:31:23 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
seabird@seabird-system ~ $
this image shows http://i45.tinypic.com/3515ml5.jpg


Glad it worked for you. On updating the kernel, there's 3 packages that go with every kernel upgrade:

linux-headers-generic
linux-image-generic
linux-generic

All 3 will have the same kernel version number and all 3 have to be installed in order to upgrade the kernel. The easiest way to do this is open a terminal and type in the following:

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sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade


Using "dist-upgrade" will update the kernel if an update is available. Normally this is not necessary as upgrading the kernel does not always bring additional benefits and, in some isolated cases, may actually cause trouble (but you can always boot back into the previous kernel if that happens). Just by coincidence though it's highly recommended that all Ubuntu and Ubuntu based distros (as well as any distro using non-updated kernels 3.3 to 3.8 ) upgrade the kernel asap as the current kernel is considered vulnerable to attack:

http://www.zdnet.com/linux-kernel-explo ... s_cid=e550

The latest patched kernel upgrade (3.5.0-25-generic) for Ubuntu/Linux Mint 14 has been in the repos for a few days now. Run those commands I mentioned in the terminal and reboot. DKMS should automatically build your current Nvidia driver into the new kernel during the upgrade process.

Good luck. :)
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Re: firefox in mint 14 is a bad idea

Postby beachgardener on Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:04 pm

kmb42vt wrote:
linux-headers-generic
linux-image-generic
linux-generic

All 3 will have the same kernel version number and all 3 have to be installed in order to upgrade the kernel. The easiest way to do this is open a terminal and type in the following:

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sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade




success with the update/upgrade:
seabird@seabird-system ~ $ uname -a
Linux seabird-system 3.5.0-25-generic #39-Ubuntu SMP Mon Feb 25 18:26:58 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
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kmb42vt, thank you so much for your help, much appreciated :)

"kvm disabled in bios", am i right in saying that i only need to worry about this if i need to use virtualbox or the like?
or should i find in bios where it is an enable it?
Intel G850 cpu has Intel Virtualisation Technology (VT-x) enabled.
Cheers.

sorry didn't mean to hijack the firefox thread, oops :)
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Re: firefox in mint 14 is a bad idea

Postby kmb42vt on Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:54 pm

beachgardener wrote:
kmb42vt wrote:
linux-headers-generic
linux-image-generic
linux-generic

All 3 will have the same kernel version number and all 3 have to be installed in order to upgrade the kernel. The easiest way to do this is open a terminal and type in the following:

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sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade




success with the update/upgrade:
seabird@seabird-system ~ $ uname -a
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kmb42vt, thank you so much for your help, much appreciated :)

"kvm disabled in bios", am i right in saying that i only need to worry about this if i need to use virtualbox or the like?
or should i find in bios where it is an enable it?
Intel G850 cpu has Intel Virtualisation Technology (VT-x) enabled.
Cheers.

sorry didn't mean to hijack the firefox thread, oops :)


No, you don't have to worry about kvm unless you want to run VirtualBox and then I'm not even sure. I've only made sure VT-x was enabled (among other things. Very glad the update and everything else went well. Sounds like you're on a roll. Good deal!
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Re: firefox in mint 14 is a bad idea

Postby podagee on Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:33 pm

they seemed to have fixed the issues with the latest release,19.0.2.it runs pefectly fine.
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Re: firefox in mint 14 is a bad idea

Postby cwwgateway on Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:20 pm

I'll have to update when I get a chance. I'm running 19.0 on 3 of my installs, iceweasel 19.0.2 my pure Debian install, and 19.0.2 on my Arch install. I haven't played around with 19.0.2 much, though.
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