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Keep LMDE stable

Postby teatime on Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:05 pm

Hi Forum

After the latest announcement of Canonical I made the descision that I will switch to LMDE from Ubuntu LTS 12.04. For this reason I have a question: as for the moment LinuxMint LMDE is using debian testing which is Debian Wheezy (which is fine) I would like to know whether I can stick with Wheezy after it got marked as stable and can only get securiy/bugfix updates of the current installed system and do not go the route of a rolling release as I want to have a stable system to do my software works for my ongoing courses. Like what LinuxMint 13 is a LTS release - LMDE 2013 could be for Debian Wheezy.
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Re: Keep LMDE stable

Postby cwwgateway on Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:38 pm

You can do this. It would require editing your /etc/apt/sources.list as root:
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deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free

And then running:
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sudo apt-get update

And then:
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sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

This will upgrade you to Debian Testing, but it will automatically "transfer" you to stable once wheezy is released. It is possible that you have to add a "#" before the packages.linuxmint.com line so that you don't get updates from the Mint repo that are too knew for your stable system. It would then look like this:
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#deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free

The one other thing is you may want to delete the /etc/apt/preferences file.

Which DE are you planning on running?

Edit: Also, the second line in the /etc/apt/sources.list that I gave you is for the US, so you can use a mirror for your specific location if you wanted to.
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Re: Keep LMDE stable

Postby teatime on Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:21 pm

Hi

Thank you for your prompt reply - I'm familiar with debian country repos but I was not sure about the Mint repos (what should I keep and replace) and there is a lof information in the mint forums so I got confused what is the right way to achieve my goal. As DE I want to use Cinnamon as it is very great to work with and I have downloaded linuxmint-2013-cinnamon-dvd-64bit-rc.iso where I thought it is a great idea to use Debian and Cinnamon and therefore stick with a stable system. So I think it is safe to change the system repos to below mentioned debian repos. Very smart idea of LinuxMint developers to spin this LMDE distribution and for me it looks like a plan B in case Ubuntu fails.
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Re: Keep LMDE stable

Postby cwwgateway on Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:00 pm

teatime wrote:Hi

Thank you for your prompt reply - I'm familiar with debian country repos but I was not sure about the Mint repos (what should I keep and replace) and there is a lof information in the mint forums so I got confused what is the right way to achieve my goal. As DE I want to use Cinnamon as it is very great to work with and I have downloaded linuxmint-2013-cinnamon-dvd-64bit-rc.iso where I thought it is a great idea to use Debian and Cinnamon and therefore stick with a stable system. So I think it is safe to change the system repos to below mentioned debian repos. Very smart idea of LinuxMint developers to spin this LMDE distribution and for me it looks like a plan B in case Ubuntu fails.

If you're running cinnamon definitely remove/comment out the Mint repo. Gnome 3.6 will enter Debian Testing/Sid not too long after wheezy's been released, and when LMDE updates to Gnome 3.6 cinnamon will be rebuilt for it. This will mean it won't be compatible with Gnome 3.4 and Debian Wheezy. Otherwise I think the repos are ok.
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Re: Keep LMDE stable

Postby teatime on Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:34 pm

Ok,

I have changed the repo lines in sources list and a lot of packages get downloaded but what me worries is the REMOVED line but I will post later what's happened :mrgreen:
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
mint-meta-debian-cinnamon thunderbird
The following NEW packages will be installed:
amd64-microcode gnome-accessibility-themes gnome-themes-standard-data
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Re: Keep LMDE stable

Postby cwwgateway on Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:38 pm

The reason for the two removed is because the mint meta package depends on thunderbird, and the Debian version of hunspell (the dictionary/spell checker) conflicts with Mint's thunderbird. Debian has thunderbird "renamed" as icedove (long story), and it works with hunspell, so you can install that. Debian also has firefox renamed as iceweasel, but you don't have to change it if you don't want to. Iceweasel from Debian will get security updates and bug fixes, whereas firefox won't assuming you removed the Mint repo.
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Re: Keep LMDE stable

Postby teatime on Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:23 pm

Ok and thank you for all the information and it is not a problem to use icedove or thunderbird as long I can get my emails. The update of the repos went fine and I had only to reinstall grub but there are two problems which I have to solve (maybe I should start another thread) - in setting/power I can not choose settings in the pull down menu for 'when the lid is closed' and suspend and hibernate to not work (black screen with a cursor). I try to fix it or come back later and start a new thread if I do not find a working solution.
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Re: Keep LMDE stable

Postby cwwgateway on Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:26 pm

teatime wrote:Ok and thank you for all the information and it is not a problem to use icedove or thunderbird as long I can get my emails. The update of the repos went fine and I had only to reinstall grub but there are two problems which I have to solve (maybe I should start another thread) - in setting/power I can not choose settings in the pull down menu for 'when the lid is closed' and suspend and hibernate to not work (black screen with a cursor). I try to fix it or come back later and start a new thread if I do not find a working solution.

I'm glad I'm able to help.

The problems you described may warrant a new thread if you can't fix them.
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Re: Keep LMDE stable

Postby teatime on Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:07 pm

I have fixed it - wrong uuid of swap partition. Thank you for your help.
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Re: Keep LMDE stable

Postby cwwgateway on Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:00 pm

teatime wrote:I have fixed it - wrong uuid of swap partition. Thank you for your help.

I'm glad its working for you now :) . Enjoy your (soon to be) LMDE Stable.
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