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Re: Upstream X/Wayland Developers Bash Canonical

Postby anandrkris on Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:14 am

Hmm... X.Org perhaps thinks it is dicey situation and embarrassed about sourcing campaign outcome being a failure. Though i think it will only be a success given community's open dissent for Mir. I obviously feel that Kristian Høgsberg needs more hands to take Wayland project to completion...Anyways, you did your efforts!
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Re: Upstream X/Wayland Developers Bash Canonical

Postby anandrkris on Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:53 am

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTMzNDk - Wayland/Weston Gets Forked As "GH-Next"
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2013-March/008121.html - Mail from developer introducing GH-Next and a good deal of history.
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Re: Upstream X/Wayland Developers Bash Canonical

Postby Tonttu on Mon Mar 25, 2013 2:50 am

Whoa.. well at least it's a friendly fork!

Btw. I'm still in some discussions re: crowdfunding.. not sure it will lead to anything, but we can hope.
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Re: Upstream X/Wayland Developers Bash Canonical

Postby dee. on Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:59 am

It's not really even a fork... from the look of it, GH-Next has no intention of becoming a competing standard, or to become a production-level display server. Mainly it just looks like a playground or testbed for testing stuff outside the main tree of the Wayland project.
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Re: Upstream X/Wayland Developers Bash Canonical

Postby Tonttu on Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:30 am

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Re: Upstream X/Wayland Developers Bash Canonical

Postby Tonttu on Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:48 am

Well Daniel Stone shed some light on the situation:
The background to this is that he was deeply personally abusive to most people he ever interacted with, calling us rainbows idiots, assholes, telling us he didn't care about us or have time for our unicorns, etc. This included during the review process, angrily brushing away any constructive review comments (e.g. Jason Ekstrand and Pekka on the last round of the minimisation patches) as people with agendas attacking him, or trolling. So no-one ever wanted to review his patches, because even if you did feel like helping out someone who constantly abused you, he'd ignore your entire review and call you a troll - a total waste of everyone's time. Then he'd get really upset when his patches weren't merged, despite having either zero review, or unanswered (aside from abuse) review comments that suggested deep problems with the protocol.

The only feedback he wanted was his code merged unquestioningly. Now he's got his own project where he can do that, and Wayland doesn't have someone to scare off potential contributors by abusing them for no reason, and has about the same amount of reviewed code ready for merge. I think it's a win-win.


edit: even more details: Why Scott Moreau got kicked out
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Re: Upstream X/Wayland Developers Bash Canonical

Postby anandrkris on Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:55 am

Hell! Looks like such people really exist! Cant start to imagine how Linus would have reacted to in this case ! :wink: :wink:
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