JWJones wrote:I agree with you, the sooner Flash dies, the better. Let's move on, to HTML5, or whatever. In the meantime, have you considered either removing Flash, or installing plug-ins that prevent Flash from running automatically?
For watching YouTube videos, I do it in HTML5:
homerscousin wrote:The next time I buy any computer related stuff I'm getting a kill-a-watt meter. That 60 watts is amazing and also baffling. Back last year and years prior when I was running my old Pentium D rig I couldn't figure why playing anything flash would jump my CPU use to 50% or more. I'm an NFL football lover. I visited many sites to watch replays etc in flash. Never mind the flash advertising junk. They all cranked my CPU up. Yet playing a video from hdd or dvd or a streaming site was much less. Since I built the Ivy Bridge system all video seems to be about the same. You-tube 1080p, dvd,streaming, whatever, no video will run the CPU above the idle speed of 1.6 ghz and nothing goes over 20% at that idle speed. I don't have a blue-ray drive or any true blue-ray files. I really need a watt meter to confirm what I see. I can't possibly see a 60 watt use jump on my system just by playing flash based on the numbers reported by Conky alone.
homerscousin wrote:Hi, powerhouse. I did order a few things today from Newegg and one of those inexpensive meters was on the list. I'll do some testing when I get it and post the results here, about a week from now.
Youtube uses Adobe Flash to display videos on non-Apple (non-iOS) devices. As many experts have already pointed out, Flash is extremely inefficient with resources and consumes a huge amount of energy. On my PC, watching a Youtube video in a large window will consume an additional 60W of electricity!
When tens of millions of Youtube users watch movies using Flash, an enormous amount of electricity is wasted. We and our children are paying not only for our increased electricity bill, but also for the ecological damage that is caused by it.
Youtube allows the user to select HTML5 instead of Flash, but this is rather a hidden feature.
All Youtube (Google) needs to do to become environmentally more friendly is turn on HTML5 by default. Those users who face technical issues as a result could still opt for Flash.
Thanks for your consideration.
Oh, shut up.powerhouse wrote:There are few things in life that really upset me. One thing is the senseless killing of people on our roads (I'm referring to car accidents). And one thing that upsets me is Flash.
Why? Because Flash technology consumes a disproportionate amount of computing resources and energy, both of which I'm paying for.
Were you around for the campaign to "make" google.com change its background color from white to black, for the same reason, to "conserve [finite] [power] resources?"If around 1.5 billion web users spend 15 minutes a day on a Flash animated website, this amounts to about 22,500 Megawatt hours of energy waste a day, 22.5 Gigawatt hours per day. True, other PCs or even a different browser may use more or less energy, but there is no doubt that Flash animation leads to a huge waste of energy.
You might say it had a place during a brief 16 year window, between the living hell of RealPlayer and the present, when browsers still can't do WebGL.homerscousin wrote:Maybe flash was just ahead of its time?
homerscousin wrote:Hey, powerhouse, meant to ask this a few days ago. Do you have Conky or something similar installed to monitor your cpu core use? Or the gpu? I wondered how much cores use went up with flash. Or is it the gpu using the power? My watts and core use went up very closely.
My Norelco 3 head razor uses 2.5 watts. food processor empty and free spinning 180 watts.
justy39 wrote:I actually like flash. Html5, I do not. The other night someone by the name Chris was on youtube and I walked right on his computer which happened to be using html5 to view videos. It's far from secure as of yet. Html5 also takes far more resources to function with the lack of hardware. While other systems run html5 better.
As for popups, there is always ways around that. You could make html5 popups pop a new window even with a popup blocker enabled in firefox or chrome.
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