Linux Desktop Mess - Article - Doubt

Chat about Linux in general

Linux Desktop Mess - Article - Doubt

Postby anandrkris on Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:00 am

http://www.linuxadvocates.com/2013/03/the-linux-desktop-mess.html - Came across this article and want to elicit your opinion on the below point.

I use Dropbox for cloud storage in a Mint 13 KDE desktop and Nautilus integration for it just working fine and can access files in Dolphin as well. (I am aware of the installation tweaks but dint feel like spending time on it just to integrate Dolphin in sysytem tray of Dropbox as I had installed already )

I am a pure desktop user and have a n00bish question. How difficult is it for application developers to develop a client for different File and Package managers?
Is it a real pain point for 3rd party application developers?
Cheers,
If there is a drive, there will be a path
User avatar
anandrkris
Level 5
Level 5
 
Posts: 835
Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:13 am
Location: Chennai

Linux Mint is funded by ads and donations.
 

Re: Linux Desktop Mess - Article - Doubt

Postby catweazel on Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:31 am

As a matter of principle, which I'll explain in a moment, I completely disagree with the idea that linux needs to standardise. Would you want to drive the same car, same colour, same features, same everything, as everybody else? I doubt it.

What these twits who complain about standardisation fail to recognise is that there is far more choice of motherboards, for example, than there are linux distros.
    Gigabyte GA-H61M-HD2
    ASUS P8H61-MX-USB3
    ASRock B75M-DGS-R2
    Gigabyte GA-H61MA-D2V
    Gigabyte GA-H61MA-D3V
    ASRock B75M-R2
    ASUS P8H77-M LE
    ECS Z77H2-A2X
    Asus P9X79 Pro
    Asus Sabertooth X79
    Intel DH77EB
    MSI X79A-GD65 (8D)
And the list goes on and on and on. Do you hear the same people complaining about the length and breadth of choice in motherboards, screaming "STANDARDISE! STANDARDISE!"?

No. Instead, most of them go out and buy a machine where someone else has made the choice for them. So, that's my matter of principle... "if you're going to complain about X needing to be standardised then what about A? B? C? D? E? ... V? W? Y? Or Z?

Now onto your question...

The answer depends on how developers write their apps. I write C++ applications and I won't use external libraries unless I really have to. It's the plethora of libraries that apps use that's the main problem. Besides that, most distros use either .deb or .rpm, and there's also just raw binaries. That's all that needs to be catered for, really. So, in my bloated opinion, the twits who bleat about standardisation really do not know what they're bleating about.

Cheers.
Mint Testing Team & Mint Donor #3606
KDE 4.12.0, custom preemptive kernel 3.12.5,
Intel i7 4770K @ 4.7GHz, 16GB 2666MHz XMP,
4 Samsung 840 PRO 512GB SSDs in RAID0,
6TB HW RAID10, dual 24" Acer X243H,
Gigabyte nVidia GTX 680 Super Overclock
User avatar
catweazel
Level 7
Level 7
 
Posts: 1656
Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:44 pm

Re: Linux Desktop Mess - Article - Doubt

Postby anandrkris on Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:34 am

Agree on most of the aspects you've mentioned...Else we would only have Model T of Ford ("any color so long as it is black") ...

Choice is really good thing but compatibility can not be completely ignored. (Imagine each car company decides to have their own specific tyre dimensions or does it? Sorry, I am not much knowledgeable there. At least some critical spare parts needs to have standards?).

So like .exe for Windows, if developers need to package their applications in *.deb or .rpm format i think then it is pefectly fine as long as they work on all desktop environments without glitches. If it is easy, why is Google Drive not having a Linux client yet? :(

My experience -
But when I installed libreoffice 4 recently, had faced trouble with KDE integration (ugly menu) and it worked fine later after some tweaks. I think they have gnome-integration and kde-integration installation files. What if there are 5 more flavors - Will it not be trouble for libreoffice developers? Also, if KDE is self-sufficient, i will not be hunting for Gnome apps. But i doubt if it is the reality. Unless we accept some of the issues, we can not move forward.
Cheers,
If there is a drive, there will be a path
User avatar
anandrkris
Level 5
Level 5
 
Posts: 835
Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:13 am
Location: Chennai

Re: Linux Desktop Mess - Article - Doubt

Postby dee. on Sat Apr 06, 2013 9:04 am

anandrkris wrote:At least some critical spare parts needs to have standards?


Haha, you wish...
dee.
Level 4
Level 4
 
Posts: 241
Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:29 pm


Return to Chat about Linux

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests