catweazel wrote:As long as Mint remains an ubuntu derivative that probably won't happen unless ubuntu starts to use it. For starters it requires a customised kernel, which would immediately prevent kernel updates being used from ubuntu.
That said, it may be long before ubuntu does move...
hal8000 wrote:systemd-analyze blame
Monsta wrote:hal8000 wrote:systemd-analyze blame
Hmm... this looks cool
BTW, is systemd even available in the Ubuntu repos? A search query gives only a bunch of related libraries. Or did they rename something?
On the other hand, Debian has it (that version seems to be horribly outdated though), and there's this wiki page on how you can try it out (and possibly bork your system, of course ).
Monsta wrote:Yeah, I know. I was quite impressed by the booting speed of Manjaro (Arch-based distro). Maybe I'll try systemd in LMDE once a recent enough version comes there, who knows.
Zauber Paracelsus wrote:I've just started using Linux Mint today, I can honestly say that I using SystemD is a very bad idea.
Under Arch Linux, I had been dealing with more and more stability problems, whereas I had almost no stability problems prior to its adoption of SystemD. It got to the point where I considered it less stable than Windows XP, and I had originally switched to Linux because of instability in Windows XP!
The final nail in the coffin was a system update and reboot, upon which I found that networking, graphics, and half my USB ports were all hosed, and most of the daemons in /etc/rc.d were missing. I installed Linux Mint, and things are working just fine (except with some issues with PulseAudio, which I will be purging sometime soon).
As far as performance is concerned, I received absolutely no improvement on boot performance with SystemD, and my 3.5ghz quad-core processor isn't exactly what you'd call slow.
hal8000 wrote:Dont think it can produce charts like bootchart as systemd-analyze blame runs in terminal
gnudude wrote:WOW! I have to agree, for sheer boot time systemD is amazing. I had already wiped my mint install so I played with it on debian jessie/sid with gnome3 and went from about 14 second boot time to like 7 seconds. This is on my laptop which is about 5 years old, has a 2ghz dual core, and 1gb of mem.
I am not sure it is worth the trouble especially when dealing with a system that uses upstart but it is very cool!
altair4 wrote:It may not be a question of kernel levels or superior technology or any of these things. It may come down to testosterone levels.
SystemD was invented by Red Hat.
Upstart was invented by Ubuntu.
Those of us of the male persuasion have an inherent tendency to defend our positions independent of facts so you may never see a full conversion to SystemD in the Ubuntu-based Mint offerings.
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