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Availability of Debian packages in LMDE

Post by msbln »

An example:

I can remember that I was once able to install the package

totem-plugin-arte

with the LMDE package manager.

Now I'm running LMDE UP7 Testing. I believe that is equivalent to the current Debian Jessie. Is that right?

If so, why does the package manager not show the package as it can be found in

[url]http://packages.debian.org/de/jessie/totem-plugin-arte[/url]

I'm confused :?
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Re: Availability of Debian packages in LMDE

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Oh, it's very easy to tell. Look at its [url=http://packages.qa.debian.org/t/totem-plugin-arte.html]PTS page[/url]. See the line "[2013-07-08] totem-plugin-arte REMOVED from testing"?

The Update Packs are prepared from the frozen snapshots of Testing (so they're never equivalent to the current Testing). This one was frozen at the time when the package you need has been removed from Testing.
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Re: Availability of Debian packages in LMDE

Post by msbln »

Ok, I understand it better now.

For a try I copied the incoming-repos into the sources.list
(just for having a peek, they are inactive again)
but there seems to be the same "time lag"
as it is in the Debian Sid packages
[url]http://packages.debian.org/de/sid/totem-plugin-arte[/url]
but not in the LMDE incoming repos.

If I wanted to experiment, could I use Debian Jessie repos for installing the package?
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Re: Availability of Debian packages in LMDE

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Switching to Incoming is useless, there won't be anything new until the next UP arrives there for testing.
Yes, you can install that package from Testing, it's available there again.
msbln

Re: Availability of Debian packages in LMDE

Post by msbln »

Where can I find the current repos for Debian (jessie)?
All I could find is

Package Repository: [url]http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/[/url]

So temporarily I could paste

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http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/ 
into the sources.list and then the above package should be found by the package manager, right?
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Re: Availability of Debian packages in LMDE

Post by grizzler »

I'm tracking Testing and my sources.list has:

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deb ftp://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
You can either leave out the nl part or replace it with another country code if you want to use a mirror close to you.
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Re: Availability of Debian packages in LMDE

Post by msbln »

grizzler wrote:I'm tracking Testing and my sources.list has:

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deb ftp://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
You can either leave out the nl part or replace it with another country code if you want to use a mirror close to you.
That worked. After deactivating temporarily LMDE repos the package
totem-plugin-arte
could be found. Due to many dependencies I decided not to install.
But I understood how to pull in Debian packages.

How can I find out if the desired package is to be found in any of the LMDE repos (latest, incoming, testing, experimental...)?
grizzler

Re: Availability of Debian packages in LMDE

Post by grizzler »

msbln wrote:How can I find out if the desired package is to be found in any of the LMDE repos (latest, incoming, testing, experimental...)?
Good question. I usually start [url=http://packages.linuxmint.com/]here[/url] if I want to know about a package in the Mint repositories, but that page doesn't seem to have an entry for Incoming or Latest (Testing and Experimental are 'pure' Debian, so I would start [url=http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages]here[/url]).
msbln

Re: Availability of Debian packages in LMDE

Post by msbln »

Interesting links. Thanks.

What would happen if I pasted all current LMDE and Debian repos in the sources.list and let the package manager search?
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Re: Availability of Debian packages in LMDE

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msbln wrote:Interesting links. Thanks.

What would happen if I pasted all current LMDE and Debian repos in the sources.list and let the package manager search?
If you want to use Debian testing packages "safely"you need to change your sources properly. I advise you to read this [url=http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=201&t=123323]thread[/url]
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Re: Availability of Debian packages in LMDE

Post by Monsta »

There's also http://http.debian.net/ which selects the best mirror for you automatically.

For example, for Testing you should change

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deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
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deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
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