laofzu wrote:Since Linux Mint is unable or unwilling to keep LMDE up-to-date, perhaps they should just drop it altogether or turn it over to a community to maintain. I have long since moved on to Debian
Wheezy with the Mate 1.6 desktop installed. Works fine, no need to wait anymore for Linux Mint to release new updated isos. Should be good until the next Debian stable release far down the road. Not always the latest packages, but definitely dependable for getting work done everyday which is what matters to the clients I serve.
Not to be disrespectful, but your take on the release cycle doesn't really make sense to me, and here's why... On one hand, you're asking for LMDE to be updated more frequently. That's all fine and good, but more frequent updates can come hand-in-hand with increased package breakage. That potentiality seems to fly in the face of your stated reason for using a Debian-based distro - stability. Which leads me to my second point; Instead of opting for a distro that updates more rapidly, like Arch, you went the other direction, and installed Wheezy (aka Stable), which is only updated - at most - once a year. Yes, it fills your need for a stable distribution that you can deploy for your clients and for personal use, but Stable certainly doesn't fit your criteria of a distro that is "up-to-date".
LMDE has a release cycle that gives updates more frequently than Wheezy (more up-to-date packages), and provides the same/similar level of stability, since LMDE pulls from the Testing branch, and then puts it through additional tests, prior to release of the snapshot UP's. In my opinion, that provides you the best of both worlds - a distro that's stable enough for regular, daily usage, while still receiving more frequent updates than its parent distribution.
Personally, that's exactly why I switched to LMDE from Mint 16. I really like Mint, but I don't like having to blow up my install every 6 months to a year, just to get the latest and greatest packages. I also disagree with Canonical's (and therefore Ubuntu's) policies regarding stability and security. Unfortunately, that presented me with questions regarding whether or not I could continue using an Ubuntu-based distro. I ran Arch for several months, but the need for constant maintenance really turned me off, and I'm not interested in having to build all of my packages from source, every time I want something new. Sure, it's a rolling release, and I always had up-to-date packages, but I had to sacrifice and dedicate a great deal of time to keep Arch running the way I wanted it to. LMDE provides me with a perfect blend... No need to reinstall my distro, and no/very few concerns about stability and performance.
As I just stated, there's going to be a tradeoff when you place value on one thing (updates) over another (serious stability). Wheezy doesn't provide update value, because it's frozen, but it does give you stability. You also have the drawback of having to reinstall the distro every time it updates to a new version...Not ideal if you ask me. Arch gives you updates on demand, but the potential for serious breakage is always there. Again, this is just my opinion, but I feel that LMDE provides users with an ideal distribution; A distro that updates without the need for a reinstall, more frequent updates than Wheezy, while still boasting the stability for which Debian is famous. To that point, I would rather see Clem move the team away from the mainline Ubuntu-based distros, and focus more attention on this branch.