I got my Error 15 problem solved but now I have another problem. I clicked on the little lock icon in Mint 5 and it said there were 84 updates to install. So good so far. I clicked it and all 84 updates are level 3. Clem said not to install level 3 anything because level 3 stuff messes up Mint 5. So what do I do now. Should I install them anyway? Should I do the update from Synaptic instead of the little lock icon?
I discovered with Mint 048 and level 3 updates and changing wallpaper that if I double clicked on the wallpaper I wanted and then single clicked on 2 or 3 other wallpapers and then double clicked on the wallpaper I wanted I got the one I wanted.
Also when I tried to boot FireFox all I got was a window frame and it slowed down Mint a lot and I couldn't get to the main menu so I had to do a warm reboot with the reboot button.
Thankx for any help.
Level 3 Udates?
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rivenought
Re: Level 3 Udates?
In the release notes, Clem did say to be "cautious" in updating Level 3 packages. Since he did not say to avoid them totally, and that the option for updating has the Level 3 packages enabled by default, there may not be a massive issue.
Sure, an update could break something. That happens with any distro. I have had YaST in openSUSE go belly-up a couple of times after a wonky update borked it. However, quickly enough, there is a fix from upstream and the situation is rectified - usually in a matter of hours.
The only completely safe thing to do is not upgrade anything that is not already on the CD. Not sure if I want to be that cautious, nor do I wish to throw caution to the wind and enable the Level 4 and 5 packages either. I am leaving the Level 3 updates enabled and cruising as normal. I feel that sticking to the mintUpdater is the wisest choice.
As for the wallpaper issue, that was fixed in a batch of Level 3 updates this morning. As with everything, you must weigh your options. Good luck!
Sure, an update could break something. That happens with any distro. I have had YaST in openSUSE go belly-up a couple of times after a wonky update borked it. However, quickly enough, there is a fix from upstream and the situation is rectified - usually in a matter of hours.
The only completely safe thing to do is not upgrade anything that is not already on the CD. Not sure if I want to be that cautious, nor do I wish to throw caution to the wind and enable the Level 4 and 5 packages either. I am leaving the Level 3 updates enabled and cruising as normal. I feel that sticking to the mintUpdater is the wisest choice.
As for the wallpaper issue, that was fixed in a batch of Level 3 updates this morning. As with everything, you must weigh your options. Good luck!
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LinuxForever
Re: Level 3 Udates?
Thank you very much for your help rivenought. I will install the level 3 updates then.
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firefighter
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Re: Level 3 Udates?
LinuxForever,
How did this go? I have just installed Mint5 and am faced with the same situation. I upgraded up to level 2 but still have a slew of level 3's. Great distro by the way; just learning my way around it and Gnome also. Have used a distro with KDE in past. Must say, I like the layout of Gnome and Mint so far!
How did this go? I have just installed Mint5 and am faced with the same situation. I upgraded up to level 2 but still have a slew of level 3's. Great distro by the way; just learning my way around it and Gnome also. Have used a distro with KDE in past. Must say, I like the layout of Gnome and Mint so far!
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rivenought
Re: Level 3 Udates?
Welcome to the forum, firefighter!
If you do not wish to see the Level 3 updates, you can uncheck the boxes in mintUpdate. Then, only Levels 1 and 2 will show up. I have been a tad wary of the Level 3 updates after some reports of breakage, but after researching the Level 3 packages and installing them in small batches, I eventually got everything updated with absolutely no problems. My systems are very basic, so that may contribute to my success. Your kilometerage may vary. Good luck!
If you do not wish to see the Level 3 updates, you can uncheck the boxes in mintUpdate. Then, only Levels 1 and 2 will show up. I have been a tad wary of the Level 3 updates after some reports of breakage, but after researching the Level 3 packages and installing them in small batches, I eventually got everything updated with absolutely no problems. My systems are very basic, so that may contribute to my success. Your kilometerage may vary. Good luck!
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firefighter
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Re: Level 3 Udates?
Thanks for the quick reply rivenought! I did what you said when I first updated. I just noticed some things in there (Open Office updates ect.) that were level 3, but didn't want to "break" my newly installed distro right off the bat! I guess I will proceed with caution! 
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AK Dave
Re: Level 3 Udates?
My laptop updates to lvl5 and includes Hardy proposed in sources.list. I've had a problem only once, when an update broke xulrunner which broke Firefox3 which MintUpdate interpreted as a "broken package" and automatically uninstalled FF3 to install FF2. A week later, an updated xulrunner allowed FF3 to be reinstalled. I run OO3 on the laptop and absolutely love it.
The "home unit" updates automatically to lvl2 and I routinely allow lvl3 updates. It does not sniff Hardy proposed. It is problem free.
The "home unit" updates automatically to lvl2 and I routinely allow lvl3 updates. It does not sniff Hardy proposed. It is problem free.
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msuggs
Re: Level 3 Udates?
The updates to be careful with are more the gnome stuff rather than apps like openoffice and Firefox. You should be safe with those. That said I haven't had any problems with any level 3 updates so far on my system.firefighter wrote:Thanks for the quick reply rivenought! I did what you said when I first updated. I just noticed some things in there (Open Office updates ect.) that were level 3, but didn't want to "break" my newly installed distro right off the bat! I guess I will proceed with caution!
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firefighter
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Re: Level 3 Udates?
Including the Gnome "stuff"?
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rivenought
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As of right now, I have all of the Level 3 updates. The "GNOME stuff" updated me to GNOME 2.22.3. I do not seem to be having any issues on the hardware in my signature below. So far so good. 
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I always install the level 3 updates...never had a problem.
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firefighter
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Re: Level 3 Udates?
Thank you all for your replies. I will give the level 3 a try. I was just concerned about "breaking" this great distro!
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Lantesh
Re: Level 3 Udates?
I always install level 3, and very rarely have issues. Level 4 and 5 I'm more cautious with, but I do install those as well. Besides breaking things can actually be a fun learning experience.