Linux Mint 5 Elyssa XFCE CE RC1 (BETA 025) is out!

[Guest]

Hi,

I was wondering if I test the RC1 release will I have to do another iso download for the final release or a simple mint update/synaptic update will do?
thanks!

Eric

[Bali]

Hi,

I was wondering if I test the RC1 release will I have to do another iso download for the final release or a simple mint update/synaptic update will do?
thanks!

Eric

Hi,

Read above: someone already asked and got an answer...

[Bali]

Hi,

Because I am very impatient to use the final version (as many others), just a question: is there still some bugs this postpone the final version?

Any ideas about the release date?

Thank you

Bali.

[Insane1 (not logged in)]

Hi,

Because I am very impatient to use the final version (as many others), just a question: is there still some bugs this postpone the final version?

Any ideas about the release date?

Thank you

Bali.

Apparently theres a login/logout bug that's still being dealt with, last I heard. I'm guessing the release date is still in the air.

[big_dog1968]

Hi,

Because I am very impatient to use the final version (as many others), just a question: is there still some bugs this postpone the final version?

Any ideas about the release date?

Thank you

Bali.

Apparently theres a login/logout bug that's still being dealt with, last I heard. I'm guessing the release date is still in the air.

Could Merlwiz, or Clem or one of the other main players respond to the above question. Also for KDE as well. We all assume that it will be released when it's ready, but when do we think it will be ready? That's the $64,000 question. On a side note I do have a little bit of urgency because the doctor shocked me by telling me that I am dying and I would like to see the final versions before I go. The Doctor estimates I have just 40 years to live, and I sarting to worry I might not live to see XFCE or KDE versions.

Also, separate question: Will there be a time in the future when you can install main edition and then add the other versions through the repo's? That would save disk space and time for those that want to try out the different DE's, without a separate install for each.

[merlwiz79]

I have fixed all known bugs, that aren't upstream bugs, accept the gdm login issue.
I can't really say when it will be done.
I am still looking into what could be causing it from what I have changed.

Also, separate question: Will there be a time in the future when you can install main edition and then add the other versions through the repo's? That would save disk space and time for those that want to try out the different DE's, without a separate install for each.

In this release I made a package called xfcemint-desktop.
It should install all of the main packages needed to make it close to the XFCE CE.
I it won't have everything I changed but it will give you most of the defaults in XFCE CE.

[big_dog1968]

I have fixed all known bugs, that aren't upstream bugs, accept the gdm login issue.
I can't really say when it will be done.
I am still looking into what could be causing it from what I have changed.

Also, separate question: Will there be a time in the future when you can install main edition and then add the other versions through the repo's? That would save disk space and time for those that want to try out the different DE's, without a separate install for each.

In this release I made a package called xfcemint-desktop.
It should install all of the main packages needed to make it close to the XFCE CE.
I it won't have everything I changed but it will give you most of the defaults in XFCE CE.

That is great about the ability to install it as packages on top of Main. Is that available through the software portal? Also, what would be missing?

Thanks for the update. Hope you didn't mind my little "doctor says I'm dying" joke.

[merlwiz79]

That is great about the ability to install it as packages on top of Main. Is that available through the software portal? Also, what would be missing?

Thanks for the update. Hope you didn't mind my little "doctor says I'm dying" joke.

I don't know everything that would be missing.
I know the custom compiz settings would be missing.
I would have to test it to be sure.

[merlwiz79]

OK this bug is starting to get to me, so I will give you the procedure to update to the final.
Update packages:

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apt install firefox xulrunner-1.9 language-pack-en language-pack-gnome-en mozilla-thunderbird thunderbird libvlc0 vlc vlc-nox

Download my updates and extract.
Open the updates folder with all the .deb files.
Now right click Open Terminal Here and run

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sudo dpkg -i xfcemint-doc_0.5-1_all.deb

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sudo dpkg -i *.deb

Make sure to say Y to everything.

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apt install -f

Shouldn't remove anything.

Getting new XFCE Menu::
In Thunar Show Hidden files (Ctrl + H)
Delete all menu-cache* files in ~/.cache/xfce4/desktop/
Delete any menu.xml* files in ~/.config/xfce4/desktop/

Getting custom actions updates::
Delete all files in ~/.config/Thunar/

Update wicd:
apt remove --purge wicd-autostart-plugin
Download and install the stable version here.

Fix compiz Focus Prevention Level:
Open Advanced Desktop Effects Settings --> General --> Focus & Raise Behavior
Change Focus Prevention Level to Off

Fix the default Exaile theme:
Open XFCE 4 mintDesktop
Restore Exaile artwork.

I will still be working on the final iso but am not sure when it will be released.

[Insane1 (not logged in)]

OK this bug is starting to get to me, so I will give you the procedure to update to the final.
Update packages:

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apt install firefox xulrunner-1.9 language-pack-en language-pack-gnome-en mozilla-thunderbird thunderbird libvlc0 vlc vlc-nox

Download my updates and extract.
Open the updates folder with all the .deb files.
Now right click Open Terminal Here and run

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sudo dpkg -i *.deb

Make sure to say Y to everything.

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apt install -f

Shouldn't remove anything.

Getting new XFCE Menu::
In Thunar Show Hidden files (Ctrl + H)
Delete all menu-cache* files in ~/.cache/xfce4/desktop/
Delete any menu.xml* files in ~/.config/xfce4/desktop/

Getting custom actions updates::
Delete all files in ~/.config/Thunar/

Update wicd:
apt remove --purge wicd-autostart-plugin
Download and install the stable version here.

Fix compiz Focus Prevention Level:
Open Advanced Desktop Effects Settings --> General --> Focus & Raise Behavior
Change Focus Prevention Level to Off

Fix the default Exaile theme:
Open XFCE 4 mintDesktop
Restore Exaile artwork.

I will still be working on the final iso but am not sure when it will be released.

I'm glad you're still working on the final iso, however when I tried to do the update procedure, I ran into a problem. After running

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sudo dpkg -i *.deb

in the folder with the updates, my terminal ends with:

Setting up xfcemint-default-settings (0.6-2) ...
rm: cannot remove `/usr/share/applications/mplayer-playlist.desktop': No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing xfcemint-default-settings (--install):
subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of xfcemint-desktop:
xfcemint-desktop depends on xfcemint-default-settings; however:
Package xfcemint-default-settings is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing xfcemint-desktop (--install):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Setting up xfcemint-doc (0.5-1) ...
Setting up mintconfig-xfce (0.6-1) ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
xfcemint-default-settings
xfcemint-desktop

Was this supposed to happen, or is it an unforeseen problem...?

[Insane1]

Sorry for not being logged in by the way (Won't do that again). More information is it was a fresh install of Linux Mint Xfce 5 Beta025. Nothing was changed (although I had firefox open to browse the web and find the update instructions). The partition setup had /, /home, and /swap. I tried the update instructions again after letting mint update update the system, but no luck, the same two packages failed.

[merlwiz79]

Sorry for not being logged in by the way (Won't do that again). More information is it was a fresh install of Linux Mint Xfce 5 Beta025. Nothing was changed (although I had firefox open to browse the web and find the update instructions). The partition setup had /, /home, and /swap. I tried the update instructions again after letting mint update update the system, but no luck, the same two packages failed.

Something I didn't foresee.
I found the problem and will update the package.
Had it remove that file and then copy the file to it.
Must have been a late night.
A workaround would to run this in terminal:

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sudo touch /usr/share/applications/mplayer-playlist.desktop

Now reinstall xfcemint-default-settings and xfcemint-doc.
Once xfcemint-doc is installed, install xfcemint-desktop.

Edit: I fixed the package and now the link points to the fixed updates.
I also added a step to get xfcemint-desktop to install.

[Insane1]

Sorry for not being logged in by the way (Won't do that again). More information is it was a fresh install of Linux Mint Xfce 5 Beta025. Nothing was changed (although I had firefox open to browse the web and find the update instructions). The partition setup had /, /home, and /swap. I tried the update instructions again after letting mint update update the system, but no luck, the same two packages failed.

Something I didn't foresee.
I found the problem and will update the package.
Had it remove that file and then copy the file to it.
Must have been a late night.
A workaround would to run this in terminal:

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sudo touch /usr/share/applications/mplayer-playlist.desktop

Now reinstall xfcemint-default-settings and xfcemint-doc.
Once xfcemint-doc is installed, install xfcemint-desktop.

I'm just glad you're so fast when it comes to fixing things, I honestly didn't expect an answer for a few hours.
Can't thank you enough both for being quick and providing an Xfce option to Linux mint in the first place. I wish you luck with that login bug, by the way! I've tried my hand at programming before, so I know how irritating it is when you run into a bug you just can't seem to fix or trace.

EDIT:

This time everything went flawlessly. Thank you

I am curious though, what exactly is the login bug you've been having trouble with? Only trouble I've had is occasionally when I go to shutdown or restart, I wind up at the login screen...but that's usually only a one time thing and only after a lot of changes (or an update or video card driver installation), and I've had the same happen to me once or twice on Linux Mint Main, if I can recall right.

[blowback]

Hi, merlwiz.

I very thank you for your hard work.
I found a typo on Thunar custom actions of ja in update to final. Please correct it.

file: /etc/xdg/Thunar/default.xml
line: 218
current:

<name xml:lang="ja">.ttfフォントのインストールく</name>

("く" is unnecessary )

correct:

<name xml:lang="ja">.ttfフォントのインストール</name>

see: http://linuxmint.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=13270&start=0#p93488

Sorry for my English. Thx.

[Steve Payne]

I was forking around with the XFCE beta last night and ran into a wireless problem. I've always used the wireless driver application on Elyssa GNOME and after i installed the .inf file, it just "saw" the available networks and I went on my merry way after adding the WPA2/TKIP stuff, etc, etc..

On XFCE, I can follow the same procedure but after I install the .inf file, it still doesn't "see" the available networks. MintElyssa GNOME spoiled me because it always worked, so I never had to dig in and get dirty on the command line (not that I'd really know how to anyway -- I'm still getting my feet wet there).

Regardless, any help/advice would be lovely. Also, has anyone good/bad feedback trying to use enlightenment on Elyssa?

Thanks again!

[Steely]

Hi

Thanks for the updated packages and instructions.

For the most part things are working well. Something I did notice after using the updated packages is that the volume levels / output are much lower than before. I have checked alsamixer and use alsa as the default and I have to crank the levels almost up to max. Under gome and kde I rarely have to set them past 70 to get the same level. I have seen this issue with previous versions of Ubuntu. Without the updated packages on the xfce beta I rarely had to set the levels past 60. I do not have replay gain enabled in any of my media players. To make it even more confusing is that the same file played with the same media player and no change in level settings will result in different volume levels.

Another item that affects both versions ( regular and with updated packages ) is the way that Firefox handles domain suffixes. Just as an example if you try to enter www.spotnet it should append it with .com by usual browser behaviour but instead it will change it to spot.net .

Dale

[Bali]

Hi there!

Any idea for the final release date? I mean, a maximum fix date?

I know you are all working hard, but almost two months late compare to the first annoucement, it's too much for me.
Before to scream on me, just read:

I am a manager in a factory and instead to use my laptop, I want now to use an old PC ( PIII - 512 Ram). XFCE could be great for an old PC like this.
I tried UBUNTU XFCE: no thank you!
Some others distro use XFCE but I want to use DEB. So my only choice is XFCE Linux Mint, that i love at home in Gnome version.
So because delayed, I use now Windows 2000...., the only OS fiting with my PC . I setup the minimum on it (Web and Mail software). I don't want to loose my time to set up all, and finally a morning realising the final release is ready.
But for now, I need to have an effective computer (with all software installed) , whatever on Mint or Windows 2000.

So please let us know.

And if I can allow myself to give you an advice: when you make an annoucement about final release, try to respect the delay you announced. Two weeks delay can be acceptable, two months: NO.

Anyway, thank you for your great job


Bali

[Willi]

Okay, I just found something horribly annoying. I went to delete a bunch of backup files from an external HDD and it took 10 minutes to "move" the files to the trash. confused?

I didn't even want them in the trash, I just wanted them gone, so I right-clicked on them and selected delete, but I had to wait 10 minutes, and then empty the trash.

Under Gnome I can right-click on folders or files and select "Delete" and they just go away without moving them or putting them in the trash. This SERIOUSLY needs to be added to XFCE!! (Please?)

You need to press the shift-key while pressing Delete. Then the deleted files will be removed instead of moving them into the trashcan.

[MithranDeer]

Linux Mint 5 XFCE Community Edition RC1 (BETA 025) is out and available for download. We're planning to release the stable version of this edition in two weeks so I hope you'll be numerous to test it and we'll receive plenty of feedback.

Please find all relevant information about this release at this address: http://www.linuxmint.com/rel_elyssa_xfce.php

I'd also like to thank and congratulate Merlwiz79 for maintaining this edition and for making it better and better with each release.

Have fun with it and don't forget to give us feedback by replying to this thread.

Clem.

There is no photo-editing app pre-installed (or did I niss it? gimp doesnt count). I strongly suggest to add f-spot or gthumb to the default install.
Don't forget to add the automatic picture download command (f-spot-import or something) to the removable media->camera-Setup.

[oliverjames]

Further notes re my experience:

Latest Mintinstall 5.2 doesn't appear to work as intended. Had to revert to Synaptic.

smb4k solved all issues related samba shares and to browsing windows workgoups.

Looking forward to the final release.

Oliverjames