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Tips for Troubleshooting Sound Issues Rev. 1

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General process for troubleshooting:
  • Check the audio is on and volume is turned up.
  • Check all audio sources. It is possible for there to be no sound from the speakers, but you will have sound through the headphones or through your external speakers or through your monitor's speakers.
  • For external devices such as headphones, microphones, or speaker:
    • If using a wired device, try a different port on your computer. If using the front ports then try the rear ports. If using USB2 ports then try USB3 ports.
    • If using a bluetooth device:
      • Try removing and re-adding your devices. Sometimes that is all that is needed.
      • Check the Networking forum for advice about bluetooth connections.
    • Try a different headphone, microphone, or speaker.
  • If you are dual-booting with Windows, make sure fast start-up is disabled How to turn off fast startup or hybrid sleep in Windows.
  • Check the audio drivers are installed.
  • Verify the sound card is recognized.
  • Chromebooks have different firmware than other computers and may require special firmware versions if it is even at all possible to get sound with it. Check the "Chromebooks" section in this topic.
  • If you are getting a beep/screech or other sound problems with Intel Atom, Celeron, or Pentium processors on Linux Mint 21, check the "BEEP with Intel Atom/Celeron/Pentium Computers" section in this topic.
  • If you are missing HDMI audio, make sure the graphics drivers are installed. See Tips for Troubleshooting Graphics Issues (including external monitors not working) for information on how to check graphic driver installation.
  • If you are having issues with 5.1 or 7.1 surround sound and running a Linux Mint 21 version please see the "Surround Sound" section in this topic.
  • If you have an Apple Macbook or iMac and no sound card is showing, please see the "Apple Computers with CS8409 sound cards" section in this topic to see if you have that sound card. There are several solutions listed which may help you if you do.
  • If you have sound coming from both the speakers and the headphones simultaneously, install pavucontrol (see "Audio Volume Options" section for instructions), then start alsamixer and look for the Auto-Mute Mode setting and make sure it's enabled.
  • When experimenting or making changes, remember to take incremental Timeshift snapshots or some other system backup to make reverting to a prior state easier.


Audio Volume Options
  • The Sound app will be your first step to check for listed sources and volumes.
  • An app with more configuration options, Pulse Audio Volume Control, can be added either through Software Manager or from the command line with apt install pavucontrol. Check to see if adjustments there help you gain sound output.
  • An app which is run inside a terminal is Alsamixer. Open a terminal and type alsamixer and the app opens inside your terminal window.



Audio Hardware Drivers

Run inxi -Axxx in a terminal to verify the drivers are installed.
Note: PipeWire is not part of the default install of Linux Mint 20, but it is part of Linux Mint 21. SoundWire is not used in Linux Mint 20 nor Linux Mint 21.

Sample LM20 with the 5.4.0-91 kernel installed:
Device-1: Intel 6 Series/C200 Series Family High Definition Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:1c20
Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.4.0-91-generic

Sample LM21 with the 5.15.0-52 kernel installed:
Audio:
Device-1: Intel Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor High Definition Audio
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:0e.0
Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.15.0-52-generic running: yes
Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 15.99.1 running: yes
Sound Server-3: PipeWire v: 0.3.48 running: yes

Sample LM21 with the 6.0-oem kernel installed:
Device-1: Intel Comet Lake PCH-LP cAVS driver: sof-audio-pci-intel-cnl
Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k6.0.0-1009-oem running: yes
Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 15.99.1 running: yes
Sound Server-3: PipeWire v: 0.3.48 running: yes

While snd_hda_intel is the most common driver for older kernel versions, the SOF drivers (last example above) are becoming more common with newer kernels. Your kernel driver might change if you change kernels. Also, your computer may use a driver other than snd_hda_intel or the SOF drivers.

If your system is missing drivers (ie. the output indicates N/A), you likely need to install a newer kernel series to get the drivers.



Audio Cards Detection

Run aplay -l in a terminal to verify the sound cards are recognized.

Notice the ALC294 in the below output. While your computer's code might be different, that code is a key to finding your solution. See what others with that output have done. You can also check Latest HD-Audio Codec-Specific Models for possible quirks for your device.

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aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC294 Analog [ALC294 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 8: HDMI 2 [HDMI 2]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 9: HDMI 3 [HDMI 3]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 10: HDMI 4 [HDMI 4]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 11: HDMI 5 [HDMI 5]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

If you get the following, you will likely need a newer kernel series. See the next section for upgrading. The system must find soundcards for it to provide audio.

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aplay -l
aplay: device_list:274: no soundcards found..
The following is also a problem because your system should have more than HDMI sources. You will want to try a newer kernel series unless you have a Chromebook. This output is commonly seen in Chromebooks of all ages. See the section on Chromebooks tips later in this topic.

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aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1]
Subdevices: 0/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 8: HDMI 2 [HDMI 2]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 9: HDMI 3 [HDMI 3]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 10: HDMI 4 [HDMI 4]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0



Upgrading to a Newer Kernel Series

If you are running a Linux Mint 20 version, the newest kernel available is the 5.15 kernel.

Instructions for upgrading to a newer kernel series in Linux Mint 20 or 21:
  • Open Update Manager.
  • Select View > Linux Kernels and click Continue.
  • Select the top option on the left panel (5.15 in LM20 versions and 6.5 in LM21 versions).
  • Then click the top-most option on the right panel. An "Install" button will appear.
  • Install the kernel and then reboot for it to become active.
After you have installed the newer kernel series, re-run aplay -l again to see if the output has changed.




Troubleshooting Considerations

What is the brand name and model of the laptop/computer? Searching on specifics for your exact model are best. Next best is searching on the manufacturer.

To help with troubleshooting, run the following in a terminal:

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journalctl -k | grep -Ei "ALSA|HDA|sof[-]|HDMI|snd[_-]|sound|hda.codec|hda.intel"
Look for errors indicating a sound card not found, missing topology files, and other issues which might indicate problems. Check /lib/firmware/intel/* for your currently installed files.

If you see mention of the ES8336 sound card, support only started with the 5.19 kernel. Resources for getting it to work with the 5.19 or 6.0 kernels are here. (Note: it requires you to build your own kernel with the necessary modifications.)



Sound Open Firmware

It is an option which can be installed on Linux Mint 20. It is standard as part of Linux Mint 21. There is a linux kernel component and a firmware component.

Known SOF firmware/topology issues are here.

The latest SOF firmware and topology files are here.
  • Installation instructions are on this page thesofproject / sof-bin : Readme as well as in the Readme.md doc in the tar file on the download page.
  • It is possible you may only need the file(s) missing on your computer and not all the files in the release.
  • It is possible the file(s) listed as missing will change if you upgrade to a newer kernel. (There have been cases where the files were there, but were mislabeled when named so the bug fix resulted in a name change on newer versions.)
  • If you did not take a Timeshift snapshot before experimenting, here are instructions How to uninstall? #52.



Chromebooks

In many cases the fastest way to fix the no-sound situation is to buy and attach an external sound usb.

No sound is a very common issue with Chromebooks because of their specialty hardware and firmware. Firmware is the link between the operating system software and the hardware. Most computers have BIOS or UEFI firmware, but only the very newest Chromebooks have UEFI. Most Chromebooks have firmware called coreboot.

Machine:
Type: Laptop System: Google product: Magolor v: rev5
serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 9 serial: <superuser required>
Mobo: Google model: Magolor v: rev5 serial: <superuser required>
UEFI: coreboot v: Google_Magolor.13606.458.0 date: 05/09/2022

In order to get coreboot functioning as a proper middleman between the operating system and the hardware, most people use the technology of MrChromebox. Check that page for your product. The example Machine info above is Magalor while the below example, which already has MrChromebox firmware installed, is Cave.

Machine:
Type: Laptop System: Google product: Cave v: 1.0 serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 9
serial: <superuser required>
Mobo: Google model: Cave v: 1.0 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: coreboot
v: MrChromebox-4.18.2
date: 11/29/2022

There is no one such computer called a Chromebook; there are many different Chromebooks. When searching for possible solutions, search your specific model.

If you have an Apollo Lake Chromebook (such as product name Babytiger / ASUS CX1500CN Chromebook), the instructions in the following Reddit post by MrChromebox has worked for a number of people HOWTO: Audio on Apollolake devices under Linux.
  • Note 1: Make sure you are running an LM21 version with the 5.15 LTS kernel and all updates have been run in Update Manager. That ensures your system is ready and you can start with the "1. Download fixed topology file:" step and skip the prior steps.
  • Note 2: Not all Apollo Lake Chromebooks automatically use the snd_hda_intel driver (for which the above works). Check your driver and take a Timeshift snapshot before attempting the changes.


BEEP with Intel Atom/Celeron/Pentium Computers

The transition from using legacy SST drivers (in LM20 versions) to using sof-audio-acpi-intel-byt drivers (in LM21 versions) for a number of Intel CherryTrail and BayTrail computers can result in the sound stopping with a beep or screech. Specific computers helped include ones with Intel Atom x5-Z8350, Intel Celeron N3060 and Intel Celeron N3160 CPUs.

To get the system fully on the SOF driver, adding the snd_sof.sof_debug=1 kernel parameter has helped people with a variety of hardware. A sampling of some of the sound cards which may run into this issue include the following:

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bytcht_cx2072x  
bytcht_da7213  
bytcht_es8316
bytcr_rt5640
bytcr_rt5651
cht_bsw_max98090_ti
cht_bsw_nau8824
cht_bsw_rt5645
cht_bsw_rt5672
You can use the following information How to add a kernel parameter to temporarily or permanently add the snd_sof.sof_debug=1 kernel parameter. When you add it temporarily, it adds it only for that current boot cycle, so if, for any reason, it seems to cause issues or it does not work, all you need to do is reboot to clear it. If you need more details than that topic provides, post a topic on the forum requesting help.

This kernel parameter sets some extra logging parameters so there are more messages to help with troubleshooting SOF issues. For some reason, just turning on that logging helps these specific computer models fix audio issues.

If it works, you can either make the kernel parameter permanent, or you can add the following line to the end of the /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf file.

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options snd_sof sof_debug=1
and then reboot the computer for it to become effective. Notice the kernel parameter has . in it and does not have the word options so take care to use the correct term for the correct location. Do only one of the two options; you do not need both.



Surround Sound

If you are running a version of Linux Mint 21 and have a 5.1 or 7.1 surround sound system and you play a stereo file, the sound will not
automatically come out of all your speakers if you have a version of Pipewire 0.3.68 or newer. Upmixing to multichannel was disabled in Pipewire version 0.3.68. Here is the reference for the below instructions to enable upmixing for PulseAudio clients.
  • Go to the hidden config directory in your computer's home folder and create a pipewire folder if one does not exist.
  • Inside the pipewire folder create a pipewire-pulse.conf.d folder if one does not exist.
  • Inside the pipewire-pulse.conf.d folder create a file named 40-upmix.conf with the following content:

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    # Enables upmixing
    stream.properties = {
        channelmix.upmix      = true
        channelmix.upmix-method = psd
        channelmix.lfe-cutoff = 150
        channelmix.fc-cutoff  = 12000
        channelmix.rear-delay = 12.0
    }
  • Save the file.
You should be able to see the contents of the file if you run the following in a terminal:

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cat ~/.config/pipewire/pipewire-pulse.conf.d/40-upmix.conf
When you restart your computer, that file will now be used and you should have sound.



Apple computers with CS8409 sound cards

These directions are specifically for Apple computers which have the CS8409 sound card. The first solution has worked for those with the following: MacBookPro 14,1, iMac 18,1 and iMac 18,3. It may work for others if they also have the same sound card.

Check to see if your computer has this sound card by running

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journalctl -k | grep -Ei "ALSA|HDA|sof[-]|HDMI|snd[_-]|sound|hda.codec|hda.intel"
If it does, you will see lines with references to snd_hda_codec_cs8409 similar to the following:

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kernel: snd_hda_codec_cs8409 hdaudioC0D0: autoconfig for CS8409: line_outs=2 (0x24/0x25/0x0/0x0/0x0) type:speaker
kernel: snd_hda_codec_cs8409 hdaudioC0D0:    speaker_outs=0 (0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
kernel: snd_hda_codec_cs8409 hdaudioC0D0:    hp_outs=1 (0x2c/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0
kernel: snd_hda_codec_cs8409 hdaudioC0D0:    mono: mono_out=0x0
kernel: snd_hda_codec_cs8409 hdaudioC0D0:    inputs:
kernel: snd_hda_codec_cs8409 hdaudioC0D0:      Internal Mic=0x44
kernel: snd_hda_codec_cs8409 hdaudioC0D0:      Mic=0x3c
If there are no references to cs8409 then post for help on the forum to find your sound card.

If you do have the CS8409 sound card, below are directions for several options you can try. Neither option specifies an iMac version. The GitHub for the first option says, "Linux Kernel Sound Driver for Cirrus Logic CS8409 (e.g. for iMac27 5k)". The GitHub for the second option says, "Kernel audio driver for Macs with 8409 HDA chip + MAX98706/SSM3515 amps".

This first option has worked for most people.
  • Take a Timeshift snapshot of your system. If you have Timeshift already running you may have one, but you can also take a one-time manual snapshot. Here is the method I use How to Use Timeshift to Backup and Restore Linux Mint 19 Systems from USB Drive. (It works the same for LM20 and LM21.)
  • Install git: sudo apt install git
  • Clone the driver code: git clone https://github.com/egorenar/snd-hda-codec-cs8409.git
  • Switch to the directory so you can compile the code: cd snd-hda-codec-cs8409
  • Run: make
  • Run: sudo make install
  • Reboot the computer.
That code may need to be run after each kernel update. The person for whom it originally worked indicated sound stopped work after "an extensive kernel update". They never returned to describe what that meant nor to troubleshoot so I don't have any details.

If that first option does not work, there is another option you can try.
  • Restore to your Timeshift snapshot from before trying the first method.
  • Install git: sudo apt install git
  • Install other packages (some of these may already be on your install): apt install wget make gcc linux-headers-generic
  • Clone the driver code: git clone https://github.com/davidjo/snd_hda_macbookpro.git
  • Switch to the directory so you can compile the code: cd snd_hda_macbookpro/
  • Run: sudo ./install.cirrus.driver.sh
  • Reboot the computer.
And lastly, the person in this post recommends a usb sound card which works for them.



Tips continued in the next post.
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Re: Tips for Troubleshooting Sound Issues Rev. 1

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Explanations/Details of audio software components used in Linux Mint


Webpages with Troubleshooting Tips
  • MrEen's No Sound Fix Tips which covers the following items:
    • Checking with alsamixer if sound is muted or too low.
    • Resetting PulseAudio's configuration files.
    • Clearing sound card unclean state when switching from running Windows operating system.
    • Is sound playing to the appropriate device?
    • Is something blocking pulseaudio from accessing your sound device?
    • Is the sound card not detected or you only see Dummy Output
    • Bad Sound Fix Tips
      • If you're experiencing glitches, skips, pops or crackling in your audio playback (how to disable timer-based scheduling)
      • Static in headphones only
      • Choppy or distorted sound
      • How to disable speech dispatcher (which can cause audio issues)------>Does not work as written on LM20 and newer.
    • Some Specific Hardware Fixes
      • Asus E200HA and other cx2072x devices
      • bytcr-rt5640 and similar including chtmax98090 (which include some tablets and Chromebooks)
      • Mintbox Mini 2
    • Tips for reading terminal command outputs.
      • inxi -Fxxxrz
      • aplay -l
      • pacmd list-sinks
  • MrEen's No Sound Fix Tips, New Ideas which covers the following items:
    • Realtek driver module blacklisting
    • If sound disappears completely when you haven't played anything in a while
    • BIOS "bump"
    • See if the sound works from the Live ISO
  • Problèmes de sons sous Ubuntu - French Ubuntu Wiki for Sound Issues
  • Ubuntu Wiki: Audio - "This set of wiki pages is intended to help anyone dealing with audio issues be that users, developers, testers or bug triagers."



Equipment-specific Advice




As always, you are welcome to post a topic on the forum asking for help at any point along the way. Please make sure to provide details of your system, your issue, and what you have already tried.


Edits
  • 23 Apr 2024 - Crossed out speech-dispatcher disabling from MrEen's tips.
  • 15 Jan 2024 - Added line about what to try if sound comes from both speakers and headphones simultaneously.
  • 10 Jan 2024 - Removed references to 6.2 kernel and replaced it with the now-available 6.5 kernel.
  • 29 Aug 2023 - Added resource link for a JACK and QjackCtl.
  • 27 Aug 2023 - Added another resource link for a JACK tutorial.
  • 20 Aug 2023 - Added section for Apple computers with CS8409 sound cards.
  • 30 July 2023 - Added section for Surround Sound.
  • 21 July 2023 - Removed references to 5.19 kernel and 6.1-0em kernel and replaced them with the now-available 6.2 kernel.
  • 11 Apr 2023 - Added additional tip for bluetooth devices.
  • 08 Apr 2023 - Added anchored links for Chromebooks, SOF, and BEEP with Intel Atom/Celeron/Pentium Computers sections to make navigating to those sections easier.
  • 22 Feb 2023 - Added link for "How use PulseAudio and JACK?", added a "BEEP with Intel Atom/Celeron/Pentium Computers" section, and updated information on kernels available for LM21 versions.
  • 17 Feb 2023 - Added link for "PulseAudio under the hood".
  • 27 Jan 2023 - Added link for Pipewire Wiki.
  • 21 Jan 2023 - Added link/information for getting sound on Apollo Lake Chromebooks.
  • 16 Jan 2023 - Major update and expansion of the original Tips for Troubleshooting Sound Issues
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Re: Tips for Troubleshooting Sound Issues Rev. 1

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I recently added a soundblaster to one of my computers - running Mint 20.3 - a dualcore 3000 Mhz maching with 8GB mem and four SSD disks. I have been running Mint on this machine for the past 4 years without any problems.

Sound is excellent, as expected. As it was also when only using the builtin soundcard (which I have now disabled in BIOS).

I don't have a Mic plugged in, but I get a weird and loud sound through the speakers except if I disable the the option for Mic (in audio configs) - this was also when I had only the builtin soundcard enabled.

I also run another Mint quadcore machine with same OS version, but there is no problem on that one.
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Moderator note: Bayvista170's issue can now be found here Cannot get Bluetooth headphones to work with Linux Mint 21 because this topic is only for issues with the instructions and not for posting problems.

Please create a new topic for problems you cannot solve.
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Re: Tips for Troubleshooting Sound Issues Rev. 1

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Much appreciate this fantastically comprehensive guide!

I just thought I'd contribute with a tiny, hopefully helpful, bit that I've recently learnt about.
SMG wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:35 pm Audio Hardware Drivers
[...]
If your system is missing drivers (ie. the output indicates N/A), you likely need to install a newer kernel series to get the drivers.
For that specific situation, $ inxi -aA, where the -a option, instead of -xxx, triggers a feature that isn't invoked otherwise — it adds a ...
possible alternate: kernel modules capable of driving each Device-x (not including the current driver:).
Sample output on LM 20.2, with kernel 5.4.0-156-generic:

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Audio:
  [...]
  Device-2: AMD Raven/Raven2/FireFlight/Renoir Audio Processor driver: N/A
    alternate: snd_pci_acp3x, snd_rn_pci_acp3x
    [...] chip-ID: 1022:15e2 class-ID: 0480
More info in -a -A explanation, under 'ADMIN EXTRA DATA OPTIONS' section of the inxi manpage.


At the time of composing this post, inxi version was 3.3.28-00 (2023-07-10).
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Pétalo wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 5:14 amMore info in -a -A explanation, under 'ADMIN EXTRA DATA OPTIONS' section of the inxi manpage.

At the time of composing this post, inxi version was 3.3.28-00 (2023-07-10).
Thanks for the information.

By default, Linux Mint does not update the inxi version on an install, however, the -a option is available on the 3.0.38 version on LM 20 releases so I would expect everyone would have it.

We have a tutorial if people want to update their inxi version How to Update the inxi command to the latest version.
Pétalo wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 5:14 amSample output on LM 20.2, with kernel 5.4.0-156-generic:

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Audio:
  [...]
  Device-2: AMD Raven/Raven2/FireFlight/Renoir Audio Processor driver: N/A
    alternate: snd_pci_acp3x, snd_rn_pci_acp3x
    [...] chip-ID: 1022:15e2 class-ID: 0480
I have seen those alternate drivers load on some installs. Sometimes additional firmware is needed which may be why the alternates do not load. That may or may not be why your system is showing N/A.
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Hello, for me, when I restarted my PC I found out that the OS doesn't detect the output/input, I had to use this command first to see if the system is detecting anything at all, you can use one of these:

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    inxi -Axxx
    inxi -Fxxxrz
    aplay -l
    pacmd list-sinks
after seeing that the system is reading the devices, I used couple of commands but none worked, the one that worked for me was this one:

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systemctl --user restart pipewire-session-manager
systemctl --user start pulseaudio
also Pulse Audio Volume Control, can be added either through Software Manager or from the command line:

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apt install pavucontrol
it seemed to be that Pulseaudio was disabled and nothing more, hope it works for someone.
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Hi

All this out of box driver bandaids need a permanent fix in the distribution .

You need to work with the upstream maintainers and fix it. You can find them in the MAINTAINER file.

Been there, done . I'm retired .

Take pride in your work and stop this out of box nonsense.
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