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Ok I did misunderstand then, thanks for the comments I'll try this. I know basic java and build systems but have very limited knowledge in linux, most of what I do know comes from android.

it's my mom's laptop she's not going to be able to disable wifi and re-enable it every time she lets the computer sleep

Network info: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless vendor: Dell driver: ath9k IF: wlpls0 If you need any more info let me know. Basically the card seems to be working fine until the computer goes to sleep, then disconnects and doesn't show any networks until computer is rebooted, then does the...

yeah I guess I could plug them into the output on my sound mixer too actually I just thought of that, cheaper just need an adapter but i probably have one somewhere.

gonna try uninstalling alsa and disabling simultaneous outputs from pulseprefs and reboot and try again.
Edit still no fix if anyone has any ideas. This does create the option to select both but the looped version doesn't work on any output.

It looked like it was going to.

Thanks that is helpful, I'm now seeing another "built-in audio" selector but none of the outputs from it are working, progress atleast i'm going to mess around and see if I can figure out why but any chance you had that issue? Do you know what exactly that does, it seems to have cloned the "built-in...

Lets see if I can explain this better. in the config menu of pulseaudio under my realtek device. There are options for like 15 different outputs. whichever one i pick is the one that shows up in audio playback menus, but I can't get both to show up at the same time. The two I want are the toslink ou...

@SugarBoby no I don't think that's what I want unless I read it wrong. I spent hours googling for this and can't find a solution and I did try ALSA but I couldn't figure out how to make both show up, it seemed to have overrides and stuff for converting jacks, like the realtek audio app does it windo...

from OP: If i go to the sound app and click on my headphones, which are under "analog stereo output" or go to the config tab in pulseaudio and under "built-in audio" select "analog stereo output" the option to use my headphones shows up in the playback menu for each app i'm running, but the "digital...

I don't want to use it for outputs, it's for inputs for another purpose, i'm trying to use the motherboard's sound card for both outputs. Optical out and headphone jack coming from the motherboard. The applications like VLC etc only show the audio outputs that are selected in the config menu for eac...

Audio: Card-1 NVIDIA GP106 High Def. Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel Card-2 Intel Sunrise Point-H HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel Card-3 Midiman driver: USB Audio Card-4 BEHRINGER driver: USB Audio Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.15.0-39-generic I believe the card in question is...

Its realtek audio onboard sound. Windows shows all available outputs in a list it doesn't show a sound device and make you choose one of the outputs to use at a time. Realtek® ALC892 8-Channel High Definition Audio CODEC featuring Crystal Sound 3 is the device that both are using. The stereo is runn...

So my problem is i'm trying to route sound from one application to my headphones, and sound from another application to my stereo. Using pulseaudio volume control, under playback, with applications selected at the bottom you can do this, but only if you are using two different devices such as my ste...