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by thenextguy
Sun Dec 23, 2018 11:22 pm
Forum: Chat about Linux
Topic: What sends noobs running back to Windows?
Replies: 573
Views: 24094

Re: What sends noobs running back to Windows?

A great thread. My own journey to Linux has been stillborn because of incompatibility with LibreOffice Calc and Microsoft Excel. Critically, LibreOffice Calc can't handle =SUMIF() between linked workbooks. This is kindergarten stuff to get wrong. See this forum , Aug2018. ...Bingo. I pay my staff t...
by thenextguy
Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:18 pm
Forum: Chat about Linux
Topic: When did you come to Linux?
Replies: 227
Views: 15540

Re: When did you come to Linux?

My first Linux install was 1n 996 or 1997, Slackware on a Micron Pentium 133 laptop. By 2001 I was primarily using Linux at home and at work (that and AIX). Even working at a Linux company now (a contractor, not a regular employee, so it's not like I'm being infaithful with another distro on my own...
by thenextguy
Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:57 pm
Forum: Chat about Linux
Topic: MS Going to Linux?
Replies: 29
Views: 1181

Re: MS Going to Linux?

i'm sorry but A hHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa microsour will NEVER do anything that doesn't make it money. Which is why they would switch to Linux. Windows is not the cash cow it used to be. Indeed it isn't. Not when you can pick up a Windows 10 Enterprise Full Retail Edition license by download from ISVs ...
by thenextguy
Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:19 am
Forum: Promotion
Topic: Promote by making Mint an Extra Strong Mint
Replies: 46
Views: 2394

Re: Promote by making Mint an Extra Strong Mint

In theory Linux itself is using OOP principles. Debian is the object, Ubuntu inherits from Deb and becomes it's own object, Mint inherits from Ubuntu. Apply that to any other distro and you have OOP principles in action, theoretically. Not even theoretically, not even remotely. Go to the back of th...
by thenextguy
Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:12 am
Forum: Promotion
Topic: Promote by making Mint an Extra Strong Mint
Replies: 46
Views: 2394

Re: Promote by making Mint an Extra Strong Mint

I quite advise https://www.amazon.com/Barbarians-Bill-Gates-Jennifer-Edstrom/dp/0805057544 for an insider account of early Windows development. And no, as far as I remember NeXT does not feature. Classic Macintosh does... Antique Mac was in re: Windows 1.x/2.x and was, IIRC, pretty much laughed out...
by thenextguy
Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:12 am
Forum: Promotion
Topic: Promote by making Mint an Extra Strong Mint
Replies: 46
Views: 2394

Re: Promote by making Mint an Extra Strong Mint

So all in all, the Win 95 style interface was descended from the NeXT UI, and consequently, so are just about all the Linux/BSD UIs by copying the Windows one. I had heard of NeXT computer before, but never saw one until I did a websearch for it just now. To me, the UI looks a lot like the WIMP (Wi...
by thenextguy
Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:33 pm
Forum: Promotion
Topic: Promote by making Mint an Extra Strong Mint
Replies: 46
Views: 2394

Re: Promote by making Mint an Extra Strong Mint

Somehow I have never seen NeXTSTEP and MS Windows in any connection. What should Microsoft have copied from NeXTSTEP? More or less the entire Workspace Manager. The dock, which also tracked running apps and document windows and showed the icons of running apps that were not docked and minimised doc...
by thenextguy
Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:38 pm
Forum: Promotion
Topic: Promote by making Mint an Extra Strong Mint
Replies: 46
Views: 2394

Re: Promote by making Mint an Extra Strong Mint

all I did was make a suggestion how Mint could best promote itself. At least, IMO - to which I am perfectly entitled and which I am perfectly at liberty to voice. Especially so as it was perfectly well intentioned. Sure. And all I did was tell you why I do not believe that your suggestions are a go...
by thenextguy
Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:30 pm
Forum: Promotion
Topic: Promote by making Mint an Extra Strong Mint
Replies: 46
Views: 2394

Re: Promote by making Mint an Extra Strong Mint

But I'm still curious about what you even mean with "A desktop environment that would be totally object oriented"? I suggest you google it sometime, and then 'Pink', 'Taligent', 'Workplace OS'. Those are names of failed OS projects and have nothing to do with my question. Anyway, I was only mildly ...
by thenextguy
Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:24 pm
Forum: Promotion
Topic: Promote by making Mint an Extra Strong Mint
Replies: 46
Views: 2394

Re: Promote by making Mint an Extra Strong Mint

thenextguy, you might start with playing with various versions of Linux in VirtualBox. In VirtualBox, you can play to your heart's content without having to worry about screwing up your "daily driver." Maybe install one of the lightest version, maybe even one that is command line only, then figure ...
by thenextguy
Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:49 pm
Forum: Promotion
Topic: Promote by making Mint an Extra Strong Mint
Replies: 46
Views: 2394

Re: Promote by making Mint an Extra Strong Mint

... Windows, whose new UI was itself a clone of the NeXTSTEP UI. (Microsoft reverse-engineered it, changed things around a bit so it no longer quite looked like NeXT and added about tuppence worth of stuff... ... ... ...And no, The GIMP isn't bad, but it's a nightmare to use and most importantly it...
by thenextguy
Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:46 pm
Forum: Promotion
Topic: Promote by making Mint an Extra Strong Mint
Replies: 46
Views: 2394

Re: Promote by making Mint an Extra Strong Mint

I like your enthusiasm and think you ought to "go for it" your ideas are good ones. However you missed the starting point - Mint as the vehicle is off the mark IMHO. What you are really suggesting is a new innovative distro that needs to start with a blank slate not Mint ala Ubuntu ala Debian, why ...
by thenextguy
Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:41 pm
Forum: Promotion
Topic: Promote by making Mint an Extra Strong Mint
Replies: 46
Views: 2394

Re: Promote by making Mint an Extra Strong Mint

rene wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:29 pm
Arch_Enemy wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:34 pm
Already been done! It's called "Arch".
Well, no; if there's anything that Arch is not, it's innovative. I'd steer OP to e.g. https://getsol.us/home/
Exactly. And do. for Solus.

It's been a hell of a long time since any free/open source OS has been genuinely innovative, and that is tragic.
by thenextguy
Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:33 pm
Forum: Promotion
Topic: Promote by making Mint an Extra Strong Mint
Replies: 46
Views: 2394

Re: Promote by making Mint an Extra Strong Mint

I think it's fine to make a distro such as the one you're describing... but it should not be Mint. We all know Mint is not perfect. But it has an established user base, it is aimed at a certain group of users. Many of these users like that it feels like Windows in many ways, yet they all have reaso...
by thenextguy
Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:28 pm
Forum: Promotion
Topic: Promote by making Mint an Extra Strong Mint
Replies: 46
Views: 2394

Re: Promote by making Mint an Extra Strong Mint

gm10 wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:59 am
But I'm still curious about what you even mean with "A desktop environment that would be totally object oriented"?
I suggest you google it sometime, and then 'Pink', 'Taligent', 'Workplace OS'.
by thenextguy
Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:01 pm
Forum: Promotion
Topic: Promote by making Mint an Extra Strong Mint
Replies: 46
Views: 2394

Re: Promote by making Mint an Extra Strong Mint

Differentiate Mint from the crowd by being not so Windows-like - think big, think out of the box, think innovation! IMO, you have totally missed the point of Mint.... I would not be here period, if not for the ease of transferring to an OS that gives me the ease of "Windows like commands" and menus...
by thenextguy
Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:50 am
Forum: Promotion
Topic: Promote by making Mint an Extra Strong Mint
Replies: 46
Views: 2394

Re: Promote by making Mint an Extra Strong Mint

Welcome to the Mint forums, thenextguy! You've got some good ideas, but some of them you may have to develop yourself at this point. For example, practically none of the major distributions are using Wayland at this point. I think Ubuntu did in 17, but went back to X in 18. There are a number of di...
by thenextguy
Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:01 am
Forum: Introduce yourself
Topic: Hello from a Windows and Linux fan
Replies: 13
Views: 406

Re: Hello from a Windows and Linux fan

Welcome, sws, from a fellow 'newbie' on the forum. I hope your problems with running Mint will get sorted - just ask in the appropriate forum. I've been running Mint Mate edition and LMDE in Windows' Hyper-V VMs for a few weeks now, although I've been an intermittent Linux user for more than 20 year...
by thenextguy
Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:33 am
Forum: Promotion
Topic: Promote by making Mint an Extra Strong Mint
Replies: 46
Views: 2394

Re: Promote by making Mint an Extra Strong Mint

Mint is based on Ubuntu which in turn is based on Debian. I don't think it can deviate much from these Yes, I'm well aware of that. But, nothing is impossible. At least I never accept "impossible" and instead, push the envelope and keep trying. Real innovation never accepts "impossible", too. Steve...
by thenextguy
Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:38 pm
Forum: Promotion
Topic: Promote by making Mint an Extra Strong Mint
Replies: 46
Views: 2394

Promote by making Mint an Extra Strong Mint

Best way to promote Mint would be to make it stand out by being way ahead of anything else - an ESM, Extra Strong Mint. Differentiate Mint from the crowd by being not so Windows-like - think big, think out of the box, think innovation! A completely new WM and desktop would be a good start, including...

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