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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:06 am
by carlos
I just want to remind everybody, one of the main reasons this forum is so great is because there is a level of decorum when it comes to posts. If you criticize or disagree please make it constructive. If you need a lesson in this, I'm sure our fine moderator Scorp123 will be more then happy to teach you in the fine art or getting your point across :wink:

I just finished hearing it, so here are my criticisms. First off, as its been said before the sound quality is definately bad. You might be able to improve this afterwards, but this also might come down to your hardware. I know post audio processing is good, but if it goes in bad, its very difficult to make it good afterwards. Do a couple of searches online on how to improve it, also you might want to make home made wind screens, one of the reasons Sherry sounds bad was that when she spoke the mics were catch the sound of her breath being forced on the mic. THere are very cheap DIY alernatives to doing this, it can help.

I would toss the scripted idea and go with more of an outline of points you would want to discuss. Unfortunately you can hear that you were both reading and not really conversing, which I'm sure added to both of you being stressed. I wouldn't be to worried if you make mistake, if you sound relaxed and make a booboo here and there, it's more charming then sounding monotoned and like a robot.

As for the content itself, not bad for the first one, but 6min is a bit short. I know content is difficult to gather and make into a show, but so far not too bad.

So on the bright side, its your first time and there was a bit of tripping. But you all did it, and I commend you all on that achievement. With the help of the community you get this gong on the right track soon enough.

On a final note, I also think one of the reasons why people were so critical of podcast, its that its supposed to represent Linux Mint, and while it might have fell short of people expectations I think it would be better to call it the Linux Mint " Community" podcast.

Good Luck Guys and Gals.

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:35 pm
by sherry19
thank you guys for the advise and we do know the sound quality sucks it wasnt tthe best mic and the best hardwear. when we get to our new home we will have better hardwear and stuff like that. mark did a script cuz hes a shy person who doesnt really talk, he said going to do it by himself tell i loosed him up by reading his scrip in a funny voise so that how i came in. and i dont know much about computer or linux i just know how to break it ;) but what i asnt understanding is how people were saying not to post it but to have someone review it....... mark my brother and i all listened to it my brother edited it it was the second thing, and mark posted it for everyone to review and give there advise and we appriate all the posative advise to it. we werent trying to degrade linux mint, but i dont know what was more degrading someone attacking us or our podcast i felt it was the other person attacking us that degraded linux mint more then us cuz we talked about how everyone was nice and if anyone seen that then yeah but he scared me away from posting till i just got mad but i do thank everyone for not attacking us :D and we will do better next time

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:38 pm
by katasuka
well it is a linux mint community podcast. anyone can do a podcast for linux mint. i just happened to be the first to get around to recording and getting it "out there" :p

i do appreciate constructive comments, but if you just diss the cast and diss me and my wife, all youre doing is discouraging me.

i actually had to get over many fears to even get this cast out there. i have a strong fear of speaking in front of people. i have a strong fear of mistakes. i hate making mistakes. i also have fears of being rejected in everything i do.

so, i had to get over a lot to do this cast. again i thank everyone for their constructive comments. for the others... grow up.

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:07 pm
by frank392
@ sherry19
katasuka wrote:
first off, what crawled up your butt and died
shherry19 wrote:
we werent trying to degrade linux mint, but i dont know what was more degrading someone attacking us or our podcast i felt it was the other person attacking us that degraded linux mint more then us cuz we talked about how everyone was nice

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:05 pm
by sherry19
um ok sorry frank but you post made no since to me. are you trying to to tell me you want us to be nice to you after you were talking so rude to us?you cant expect to be rude and only get kindness back....

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:07 pm
by frank392

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:10 pm
by frank392
@ sherry19

ok, peace? and Sorry if I sounded rude, was not my intention if you need any help please let me know.
same to Katasuka

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:28 pm
by sherry19
thanks frank i wasnt trying to be rude eaither and im sorry if anything i said offended you too but we did try out best my mom has a better mic and hardwear and stuff like that then we have here so we will beable to do a better job. what we need is ideas to do our next one on

Mint Cast ReMaster

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:37 am
by DARGONTeraAlpha
Hello Everyone,
I'm completely new to this forum, except knowing Katasuka, and Sherry. First off I would like to say that I have done a lot of things for the first time, as everyone has... Never have I done them in a way that everyone was happy with.
I have created and hosted Web sites, Forums, Chat rooms, made Music, Graphics, and many other things... Again I have to say that never have any of those things turned out quite as expected and far from being what everyone wanted to see or hear.
Mint Cast, for being done by 2 extreamly honest, caring, and dedicated people who have never done such a thing before, is an awsome example of what all of you people on this forum should be trying to acheave!
As for the MintCast Remaster, I was the one who edited the tracks and did the sound leveling. Part of the reason for the Sound quality degridation you can thank Microsoft, and that MP3 Encoders are now propiatary software. The tracks were converted to WMA to run through the sound editor I have at the moment. You can blame me for any other degridation, as I am not really well versed in editing Voice tracks. I am used to starting from scratch using original wave riffs and manipulating from there (I know that is not an excuse, I'm just stating a fact).
It would be extreamly helpfull if other people who have done Voice Recordings, PodCast, and the like would please give us helpfull tips! Suggestions for equipment, Software, Bit rates, encoders and other information would be awsome!

Sorry for posting such a long message for my first post, but I usualy have a lot to say... Or nothing at all...


Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:46 am
by Husse
Just a short remark
but what i asnt understanding is how people were saying not to post it but to have someone review it.....
I think that was me. This is easily done by posting it on a non public link so someone (not me please :) have enough to do as it is) can listen to it and give feed back. The beauty of this is that it is someone not involved in the production that listens
When everything is ok just move to a public link, you can have a nonsense name first and a rename to something like edition 43 later

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:20 am
by frank392
@ sherry
Hi sherry ,
just one idea for your next pod cast could be the experience that you had with the first one, it is real, its fun, and even has the evil character of the story I guess that would be ME. :lol:
other thing is if there is a user group in your are try to get in touch with them and maybe, do an install fest of linux Mint with them and interview them after they run it a little bit.. BTW were are you guys located?.

other thing you may try to get an interview with boo and ask him about the next KDE edition? i bet he has a lot to say.

have a pleasant evening

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:49 am
by katasuka
you know frank, that gave me an idea.

i might see if i can find someone in foresthill or auburn (where we are headed) who has only used windows and have them try the livecd and then interview them and such. sort of getting "the real story" from someone who has no linux expirience

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:21 am
by frank392
@ katasuka

that is a great Idea!! :)

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:29 pm
by sherry19
lol your not evil anymore :D lol those are great ideas we can work them all in somhow if not in one thing then in others :)

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:29 pm
by frank392
@ sherry

:) thank you

I was thinking maybe you can ad a sub-section in the pod cast were you can comment on some resent news, like: new software uploaded to The Linux Mint Software Portal, new trick and tips on the section :
and comment about the upcoming Daryna.
If i have more ideas I'll let you know
take care

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:27 am
by belovedmonster
Like everyone has commented the sound quality is pretty atrocious. You probably have a couple of cheap mics but really the problem is in the mastering. For starters the whole thing was way too quiet. I had to strain my ears to hear what you were saying, and aside from making it louder you could also make it sound a lot clearer with a little bit of tweaking.

I'd suggest going on google and searching for "mastering podcasts" or specifically "mastering podcasts Audacity" since thats the app I hope you are using to record with. You should find a whole wealth of information on these topics.

In fact, you say this is your first time, but theres 100s of websites out there to help newbie people get into podcasting so theres really no reason why you cant improve very quickly... Which is something you need to do :wink:

Buying a couple of inexpensive mics and making some shields out of an old pair of tights and a coat hanger will also help improve the sound quality a lot. One way to look at it is if you are going to bother spending hours and hours of your precious time doing this podcast then you might as well spend a few bucks on getting the equipment you need.

Also, who ever had their mobile phone on near the recording equipment needs to turn it off! The very first thing I heard on the podcast was someones phone causing interference.

And finally, it goes without saying that you should be editing out all unsavoury sounds, coughing, etc.

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:47 am
by surfer57
Hello and happy Friday.....

I really enjoyed the reminded me of Tech TV reporting which I thoroughly enjoyed...I liked your energy and enthusiasm and what others might consider political incorrectness....

I had no problem with listening or understanding and did not mind that it was six minutes...short entertaining and informative podcasts formats usually leave the listener wanting for more and looking forward to the next edition...

As far as polished performances, they will come with practice...the more podcasts that you do, the more relaxed and confident you will become...

If you need equipment, or assistance in pre or post production...perhaps the community can assist you...maybe a consideration of a podcast team of folks to assist you with production, content, etc....

I really like the idea of interviews with developers, (getting stories on what projects are hot, and upcoming enhancements etc) and what the community can do to help....discussions with new users, getting their input...are a couple ideas that would perhaps be appealing to the community....Also, maybe a time slot for some Mint instructions, solutions, etc possibly call it "Lifesaver MINT" or something like that...just thinking out loud...

There are so many directions you could go with your content...which might have you structure the cast as news and information with interaction between the two of you that would allow for adlibs etc....the structure would simply be the outline of the cast as others have will also assist your listeners as they will grow accustom and look forward to whatever formula you devise and will have their favorite segments of the cast...and allows for tweaking as you might continue to ask the community for assistance as stated for content ideas...

Again, I really enjoyed your podcast and am looking forward to future casts..Good Luck and God Bless...