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Re: Poll: Desktop environments

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:20 pm
by MaverickJester
I am using KDE but now I am going to switch and try Cinnamon (14 RC). I have chosen to do this because of the progress being made or at least stated. Linux Mint is my favorite and I hope Cinnamon works well.

Re: Poll: Desktop environments

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:12 pm
by pschlacter01
my favorite is cinnamon!!

Re: Poll: Desktop environments

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:37 pm
by carnaga
I'm using unity and on my laptop I have mate. Both are wonderful desktops! Specially when you have customized them to suite your everyday needs :D

Re: Poll: Desktop environments

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:49 am
by Orbmiser
Well was away from linux for about 2 years? As needed windows for Photo & Video Editing capabilities which linux sorely lacked back then. And Hated Gimp. So stopped after Hardy Heron. But still supplied wallpapers from my photography for default wallpapers in a couple of the Ubuntu distro's.

But thought to give Ubuntu 12.10 a whirl and was flabergasted at the Mess they call Unity and all the extra commericalization links and such. More resources used more sluggish and couldn't comprehend how they called it more Human Centeric? Maybe if I was using a tablet. But a mess for desktop and the way I like to do things.

Well downed the Mate & Cinnamon 13 version and decided I like Cinnnamon Buns & Distro's the most. Installed then week later darn 14 nadia comes out. So downed the iso and did custom format of / as had seprate /home and install went smoothly.

So far Great like the more Zen like Elegence of Mint Cinnamon and hope it keeps getting better. Tho have to do some serious looking and checking on Advanced Photo editing software available to be able to make a committed switch. As it stands now am triple boot Winxp,Win7 & Cinnamon 14.
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Re: Poll: Desktop environments

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:52 am
by bwat47
Cinnamon 1.6 is a massive improvement. Its now my preferred environment. Its got the best advantages of gnome 3 and the classic paradigm of gnome 2. Its rock stable and fast too, and has nice effects.

I'm amazed at how far cinnamon has come in such a short amount of times, I can't wait to see how much better it continues to get in the future too!

Re: Poll: Desktop environments

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 3:48 am
by mingle
Hi all,

I've been a long time Windows user, and prior to that an Amiga (!) developer, but recently started using Linux Mint when I tried LM13 XFCE and found that it performed pretty much flawlessly - unlike my previous attempts with various versions of Ubuntu, which always resulted in a broken mess...

Anyway, there's one thing that constantly bemuses and kind-of frustrates me (and I know I'm probably preaching to the converted for a lot of people) is the need for 4 (or is it 5?!) versions of Linux Mint, each with their DE.

And yes, I do 'get' the usual response of "Oh, but this is what makes Linux so great - the choice!". However I can't help but think that some of the hours of duplicated effort that must surely go into producing the various versions of Mint (Mate, Cinnamon, KDE, XFCE, LXDE, blah, blah, blah) and the many other Linux distros could be far better spent developing apps, rather than propping up a hundred-and-one-different DEs.

Wouldn't it be better to bite the bullet and produce a single version of Mint in the future?

Mike.

Re: Poll: Desktop environments

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:14 pm
by Dadzmad
Xfce on both Lmde desktop and laptop. Does what I want to do, but it's clunky.
Openbox on Debian with Crunch-bang on older P-4 garage machine, makes the old one useable
Used to use Fedora - had enough of the end of life just about the time you got it to where you want it
I've still got Fedora 12 with Gnome & compiz on an old thinkpad thats just used for reading/browsing = can't part with the workspace cube on this one. The fault with my "newer machines" is lack of support for older ATI cards and so compiz is out
Dropped Sabyon after a trial - seems ok - but time to rethink Rigo - something like synaptic make much more sense.

Re: Poll: Desktop environments

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:33 pm
by NissanNut
Loving Mate on my laptop and server. Just ordered another old laptop for Mint 13 - mate for my son.

Re: Poll: Desktop environments

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:00 pm
by elemenophee
For people who doesn't like gnome shell, what are your reasons?

I haven't had any problem with it, only that sometimes when it starts he freezes and I have to switch to TTY and restart the process.

Re: Poll: Desktop environments

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:41 pm
by xenopeek
elemenophee, please move discussion to the chat section of the forum. This is a poll about your preference, not a discussion about others' preferences.

Re: Poll: Desktop environments

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:22 pm
by badbodh
tried all the biggies :fedora , suse ,ubuntu , mint 13. no other distro or mint editions run on gnome3 shell as good as mint 12 out-of-the-box in terms of customization , hard work involved and end-result including visual candies , i really wish 12 was their LTS instead :(

Re: Poll: Desktop environments

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:14 am
by xclusive585
I cannot believe Cinnamon gets more votes than Mate. hmmm. I guess us old folks are outnumbered by the younger gnome3 crowd. :-)

I for one like to customize everything and be able to create custom launchers quickly. Gnome3 and to a lesser degree Cinnamon are not helpful with this.

Re: Poll: Desktop environments

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:30 am
by StratosJL
I used Cinnamon since it came out and liked it, too; even though it was not the most responsive or configurable environment ever.

Last week, by accident, when downloading mint 14, I picked the MINT iso. I played around with it. set it up with Compiz and what do you know? I like it better than Cinnamon, even though MATE+Compiz is not quite a match made in heaven.

Bottom line:

Cinnamon:
Needs to become more responsive.
Give configuration options to the people!
I like MATE's menu functionality better.
Give us wobbly windows and a rotating cube, please! For pleasure and functionality, alike.

MATE
Works very well, needs some work with themes and styling to become as elegant as Cinnamon.
And please make it work better with Compiz.

KDE
I was frustrated when Cinnamon would not work so well on my netbook and tried KDE's version for small screens. What a relief! Very clever idea!

PS
Don't make us use a mobile phone's interface on a desktop or laptop! Don't make us use a desktop's interface on a netbook or tablet!

Re: Poll: Desktop environments

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:43 am
by baptiste
badbodh wrote:tried all the biggies :fedora , suse ,ubuntu , mint 13. no other distro or mint editions run on gnome3 shell as good as mint 12 out-of-the-box in terms of customization , hard work involved and end-result including visual candies , i really wish 12 was their LTS instead :(


Installing gnome-shell over a recent Cinnamon edition should be doable. The problem is with extensions breaking at point releases (i.e. gnome 3.2 to 3.4, or 3.6)
You should be well able to run Gnome 3 with a panel and a shutdown option in the power menu etc., but that would be a bet on say Gnome 3.6 and praying it doesn't break to hell in 3.8

This is probably one good reason for a full fork to Cinnamon, the Mint team would have to redo their customization work all over again everytime (I believe there's that issue with gtk3 theme already).

xclusive585 wrote:I cannot believe Cinnamon gets more votes than Mate. hmmm. I guess us old folks are outnumbered by the younger gnome3 crowd. :-)

I for one like to customize everything and be able to create custom launchers quickly. Gnome3 and to a lesser degree Cinnamon are not helpful with this.


I like this, too.
Creating launchers is a bit difficult? Dunno, I've never used Cinnamon more than a few minutes at a time. Creating launchers is the weak point of LXDE too, in that desktop the plan is to handle it with the file manager (pcmanfm).

On my mint 13 mate desktop, I've installed it but it just drops me into gnome fallback with no error pop up. Even though I have a nvidia card and very smooth opengl (before and after upgrading from a 8400GS with 295.40 to a 7600GT with 304.64 driver)
On other computers I've seen it very smooth (laptop with radeon 5430m, supposedly the open source driver!), or a bit slow (low end geforce variant with open source driver) in which case the interest in funny animations goes away IMO.

Also on the Mint 12 laptop I used the other week (socket 754 sempron), flash videos seemed very slow, maybe a compositing desktop puts yet another layer of complexity between the video data and your eyes. The laptop was also cooking my penis but I don't know if the GPU was contributing a lot to the heat. So, for all these reasons, mainly the extreme variability (from non working to slow to fast) a 2D desktop is needed and Cinnamon and Mate as both main editions, released simultaneously is pretty perfect.
I gave Mint 13 Mate to a friend for him to install on his girlfriend's laptop, that was perfect, I thought we needed something that is guaranteed to not fail. Then he set up Mint 13 Cinnamon for himself.

Re: Poll: Desktop environments

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:33 pm
by jamesbannon
Just joined.

I'm using Mint 14 with Cinnamon. I used to use GNOME2, but abandoned that after the GNOME Shell came out (an abomination - horrible, horrible interface). Before Cinnamon, I tried XFCE4 & KDE, but I've never got on with either of these as I can't set up the fonts the way I like. My only gripe with Cinnamon is that customising the launcher panel is a bit of a pain. (I don't have short cuts on my desktop. I don't like the clutter.) I'd much rather it allowed adjusting the icons spacing and separators.

Re: Poll: Desktop environments

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:55 am
by nhatht
I'm using Mate because Cinnamon, even if elegant DE, gives me problems on wireless connection and the apps for desktop and their tools are less and not complete. I'm disappointed by gnome 3 and all the worsening in comparison with gnome 2.xx.
Same that what happen for kde. To look for appearance , big loss of usability. Lxde is still too rigid and not friendly in customisability. I'll try Xfce, but now the best solution seem to use Ubuntu and unity ( Ubuntu team moved to unity once they understood how big trouble gnome 3 will be?)
Clem, try to give us back same Mint as version 10, Julia that I'm still using on my destop.
Thanks a lot for your big work.

Re: Poll: Desktop environments

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:39 pm
by jamesbannon
jamesbannon wrote:Just joined.

I'm using Mint 14 with Cinnamon. I used to use GNOME2, but abandoned that after the GNOME Shell came out (an abomination - horrible, horrible interface). Before Cinnamon, I tried XFCE4 & KDE, but I've never got on with either of these as I can't set up the fonts the way I like. My only gripe with Cinnamon is that customising the launcher panel is a bit of a pain. (I don't have short cuts on my desktop. I don't like the clutter.) I'd much rather it allowed adjusting the icons spacing and separators.


I switched to MATE to see what it was like. So far, so good. Very traditional and stable. No more oddities like randomly losing permissions to shut down, mount disks, etc. It's fast too, compared with Cinnamon, GNOME Shell, etc.

Re: Poll: Desktop environments

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:29 pm
by gfarfanp
1st Cinnamon. 2nd Mate just because the possibility to use some applets that don't exist, yet, on Cinnamon. in particular the one that allow me to change characters when typing in Spanish (my mother tongue). Ah! also the eyes that follow your cursor {why nobody do those for Cinnamon?)

Re: Poll: Desktop environments

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:38 pm
by EmpireITtech
Cinnamon all the way, so refined and beautiful

Re: Poll: Desktop environments

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:26 pm
by Adelante
I haven't tried MATE in a long while, but Cinnamon is very fast in 14. I'll have to give MATE a fresh look.

jamesbannon wrote:I switched to MATE to see what it was like. So far, so good. Very traditional and stable. No more oddities like randomly losing permissions to shut down, mount disks, etc. It's fast too, compared with Cinnamon, GNOME Shell, etc.