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Linux Mint 19.2 “Tina” Cinnamon released!

Post by clem » Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:27 am

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Re: Linux Mint 19.2 “Tina” Cinnamon released!

Post by mattlach » Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:30 am

Can I finally upgrade to the latest supported kernel using "apt dist-upgrade"?

One of my biggest frustrations with Mint is that kernel updates are separate from the rest of the package tree.

I use this workaround, but I really wish I didn't have to.

My expectation regarding kernel upgrades is that "apt upgrade" leaves the current kernel in place, but that "apt dist-upgrade" upgrades the kernel, just like how Ubuntu Server does it.

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Re: Linux Mint 19.2 “Tina” Cinnamon released!

Post by mattlach » Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:37 am

Also, death to Flatpak (and Snaps, and AppImage)

If it's not in the central package repository, it doesn't belong on a system.

One of the biggest security benefit of Linux is its one central package repository on a system keeping everything patched. I fear we are losing this in an attempt to placate lazy developers a quick and easy way to distribute packages to many different distributions.
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Re: Linux Mint 19.2 “Tina” Cinnamon released!

Post by gm10 » Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:50 am

mattlach wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:30 am
I use this workaround, but I really wish I didn't have to.
I also do not understand why Mint doesn't come with a pre-installed kernel meta but oh well (no, 19.2 doesn't have one, either). I added functionality to Update Manager to add a meta if none is installed but if you don't want to use that then apt install linux-generic and you're good.
mattlach wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:30 am
My expectation regarding kernel upgrades is that "apt upgrade" leaves the current kernel in place, but that "apt dist-upgrade" upgrades the kernel, just like how Ubuntu Server does it.
apt upgrade will install a kernel upgrade, also on Ubuntu Server. dist-upgrade (or full-upgrade, as Ubuntu wants you to call it) is only needed for when you want to allow upgrades to remove installed packages, which kernel upgrades do not do, they leave the previous kernel installed.
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Re: Linux Mint 19.2 “Tina” Cinnamon released!

Post by AndyMH » Sat Aug 03, 2019 3:40 am

I had thought I'd be able to upgrade from LM19.0 to 19.2 in one hit:
It is now possible to upgrade Linux Mint 19 (or 19.1) to version 19.2.
But it seems not, the update manager is only giving me the option to upgrade 19.0 to 19.1. Looks like I'll have to do it twice, sigh :(
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Re: Linux Mint 19.2 “Tina” Cinnamon released!

Post by gm10 » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:10 am

AndyMH wrote:
Sat Aug 03, 2019 3:40 am
But it seems not, the update manager is only giving me the option to upgrade 19.0 to 19.1. Looks like I'll have to do it twice, sigh :(
Punishment for skipping 19.1. :lol:

I don't see any technical necessity for having to go step by step and I don't know why it's being done but I left it alone. I've never used the point release upgrader on my own system, anyway (it wouldn't be compatible). :P

You can upgrade manually by running this (from either LM 19 or LM 19.1):

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sudo sed -E -i 's/ (tara|tessa) / tina /' /etc/apt/sources.list.d/official-*.list
and then refresh your Update Manager and apply available updates and you're done, welcome to LM 19.2. That's all there is to it. Still a good idea to take that Timeshift snapshot first though.
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Post by AndyMH » Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:22 am

Still a good idea to take that Timeshift snapshot first though.
That will be done as a matter of routine, if LM19.2 gives me problems with virtualbox and seamless mode, I'll be timeshifting back to 19.0 :D

Thanks for the terminal command, I'll be using it.
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Re: Linux Mint 19.2 “Tina” Cinnamon released!

Post by lsemmens » Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:25 am

I just ran the update manager and it says that I am up to date, but inxi -F tells me that I am still on 19.1
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Post by Moem » Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:29 am

lsemmens wrote:
Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:25 am
I just ran the update manager and it says that I am up to date, but inxi -F tells me that I am still on 19.1
There's no contradiction in that: you're running a fully up to date 19.1. Check the Edit menu in the Update Manager and see whether it shows you anything new.
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Post by lsemmens » Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:35 am

Thank you Moem, I've just learnt something new!
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Post by AndyMH » Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:10 am

Especially for gm10 - thanks!!!

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sudo sed -E -i 's/ (tara|tessa) / tina /' /etc/apt/sources.list.d/official-*.list
worked. But not quite the way I expected, the update manager was still showing 'upgrade to 19.1' and I think it was showing an update to mintupdate which I did. Then there was a whole raft of updates. Once done and reboot, voila, LM19.2 cinnamon direct from LM19.0.

And what makes me really happy - LM19.2 cinnamon with VB running win7 in seamless mode - it was why I never upgraded to 19.1:
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Now, I suspect the notification problem is the screensaver, so Smurphos if you read this can you point me at your post(s) on how to fix this (please :)) - think they were for 19.1 and assume they work for 19.2. I like my screensaver!

Two other things I've noticed in about 5mins with 19.2:
  • pinta works - I'd given up on this with 19.0, whenever I did anything in it, it crashed. On one of my other T430's installed krita. I was able to edit the screenshot above to remove my IP address in pinta without it crashing.
  • small change to the icon spacing so I had to rearrange all my desktop icons - no big deal.
Overall, v. pleased, will play for a few days and then update my two other T430's and the desktop sat in the attic. :D
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Post by smurphos » Mon Aug 05, 2019 12:33 pm

AndyMH wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:10 am
Now, I suspect the notification problem is the screensaver, so Smurphos if you read this can you point me at your post(s) on how to fix this (please :)) - think they were for 19.1 and assume they work for 19.2. I like my screensaver!
It won't be the screensaver, but it's probably just a Spices sourced Applet, Desklet, or Extension that needs updating. First stop would be each of those settings modules, Downloads tab, refresh and apply any pending updates, then restart Cinnamon with Ctrl-Alt-Esc.

If you are still getting the message having done that a quick run-through the first section of ~/.xsession-errors should highlight the culprit. Let me know which one it is and I may be able to point you in the direction of a simple fix.
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Post by AndyMH » Mon Aug 05, 2019 12:43 pm

smurphos thanks for the quick response, I'll have a look and have a play, probably not today. If I still have any problems I'll start a new post as I'm drifting off-topic a bit. :)
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Post by AndyMH » Mon Aug 05, 2019 3:07 pm

It was the CPU temperature applet :( bit of a bugger as I've pimped up one of my T430's by putting an i7-3632 in it and like to keep an eye on the temperature. I suppose I can modify my conky to show CPU temp :?
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Post by pcspecialistpdx » Mon Aug 05, 2019 3:17 pm

So far I've only found one issue that no one has brought up yet. Software Sources still has some nonfunctional sources.

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W:GPG error: http://mirrors.evowise.com/linuxmint/packages tina Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG A6616109451BBBF2 Linux Mint Repository Signing Key <root@linuxmint.com>, E:The repository 'http://mirrors.evowise.com/linuxmint/packages tina Release' is not signed.

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Post by smurphos » Mon Aug 05, 2019 3:29 pm

AndyMH wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2019 3:07 pm
It was the CPU temperature applet :( bit of a bugger as I've pimped up one of my T430's by putting an i7-3632 in it and like to keep an eye on the temperature. I suppose I can modify my conky to show CPU temp :?
This one? - https://cinnamon-spices.linuxmint.com/applets/view/106

Did you apply applet updates? It was updated for 4.2 compatibility a few weeks ago and it working fine on my machine on a quick test.
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Post by AndyMH » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:23 pm

Maybe, it was the one listed in preferences > applets. I removed it and re-installed and now working okay. I should have done a little more work myself before crying wolf :oops:
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Re: Linux Mint 19.2 “Tina” Cinnamon released!

Post by MrGrimm » Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:48 am

mattlach wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:30 am
Can I finally upgrade to the latest supported kernel using "apt dist-upgrade"?

One of my biggest frustrations with Mint is that kernel updates are separate from the rest of the package tree.

I use this workaround, but I really wish I didn't have to.

My expectation regarding kernel upgrades is that "apt upgrade" leaves the current kernel in place, but that "apt dist-upgrade" upgrades the kernel, just like how Ubuntu Server does it.

I try to avoid using GUI tools as much as possible, preferring to do everything from console. I don't like the update manager, or even the network manager, preferring my if up/down config files. (don't get me started on netplan)
maybe you should find yourself a completely different distro, cause mint cinnamon is designed to be east for noobs which means gui's.
mattlach wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:37 am
Also, death to Flatpak (and Snaps, and AppImage)

If it's not in the central package repository, it doesn't belong on a system.
simply bullshit.

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Re: Linux Mint 19.2 “Tina” Cinnamon released!

Post by MarHaj » Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:48 pm

Well, I updated from 19.1 to 19.2 (Cinnamon desktop) two days ago. My experience is as follows:
  1. Update process went smoothly. No problems.
  2. I was using (well, as a as a beginner) updated Mint twelve hours a day. Without any problems.
Henceforth do apologize to moderators of Linux Mint Forums I am not bringing problems and bugs :wink: . I did not find any. As always...

Conclusion: many thanks to the development team for they high quality work! I do really appreciate it.

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Re: Linux Mint 19.2 “Tina” Cinnamon released!

Post by John_Elder » Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:41 am

Upgraded yesterday from 19 to 19.2. As expected, upgrade was quick and easy. My system configuration only has a few minor user preference customizations, so didn't expect many bumps in the upgrade road.

I've been using Mint for nearly a year on my primary desktop (Lenovo ThinkCentre M900 Tiny, I5-6600T) and it has been an absolute pleasure to use.

I'm just an average user, with no particular expertise in coding. I wanted a stable, reliable OS alternative to Windows and found it in Mint.

Many thanks to all those who volunteer their time and efforts to this OS. You should be very proud of what you've accomplished.

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