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Re: Linux Mint 20 “Ulyana” Cinnamon released!

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:26 pm
by mattlach
Pjotr wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:24 am
Upgrading.... it never ceases to be a controversial issue, which makes it also often rather amusing. There's nothing like a fiery controversy to sharpen the mind and make you feel alive. Well, maybe a big mug of strong hot coffee comes near. :lol:

My position is clear: for upgrades that entail a change of the entire Ubuntu code base, like the upgrade from Mint 19.x (Ubuntu 18.04) to Mint 20 (Ubuntu 20.04), I advise a clean upgrade. Which means a fresh installation. Regardless of what any potentially differing official recommendation might be.

I base my advice on my personal experience of 14 years of (nearly) 100 % Ubuntu and Mint use on the desktop. Everybody is of course entirely free to do as they please with my advice. Thank God it's a free world: we can say what we think and we can do our upgrades the way we prefer it. 8)
Wouldn't it be awesome if we could get Mint on a rolling release? :p

Re: Linux Mint 20 “Ulyana” Cinnamon released!

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:37 am
by Pjotr
mattlach wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:26 pm
Wouldn't it be awesome if we could get Mint on a rolling release? :p
Not so much, no.... A fixed release is inherently much more stable and reliable than a rolling release.

Re: Linux Mint 20 “Ulyana” Cinnamon released!

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:59 am
by JoeFootball
mattlach wrote:I'm not sure how I feel about this warpy thing. I generally do not like my computers communicating with other computers on any network unless I explicitly tell them to.
Warpinator does nothing unless you do something with it.
mattlach wrote:I hope it can be disabled easily.
There's nothing to disable, unless you're doing something with it.

Re: Linux Mint 20 “Ulyana” Cinnamon released!

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:20 am
by Kadaitcha Man
mattlach wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:23 pm
I'm also hoping I can still use ifupdown. I am not a huge fan of netplan.
Netplan in Linux Mint is configured to let NetworkManager do the work so it's essentially disabled.

Re: Linux Mint 20 “Ulyana” Cinnamon released!

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:16 am
by Fizz
I'm hoping to put this on a new Ryzen 5 4500U laptop. But as i understand things, the 4000 series (Zen2 "Renoir") requires a later kernel version than 5.4. Will later kernels be available / supported soon, or will we need to update manually?

Another more general question- what are the advantages of Ubuntu 20 over 18? That is, how does being based on Ubuntu 20 make Mint 20 better?

-Fizz

Re: Linux Mint 20 “Ulyana” Cinnamon released!

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:21 am
by trytip
Fizz wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:16 am
I'm hoping to put this on a new Ryzen 5 4500U laptop. But as i understand things, the 4000 series (Zen2 "Renoir") requires a later kernel version than 5.4. Will later kernels be available / supported soon, or will we need to update manually?

Another more general question- what are the advantages of Ubuntu 20 over 18? That is, how does being based on Ubuntu 20 make Mint 20 better?

-Fizz
download the live iso and see if it works.

Re: Linux Mint 20 “Ulyana” Cinnamon released!

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:58 pm
by deepakdeshp
sevenmpd wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:57 am
Gents have run run the update manager as suggested above to upgrade from the beta version of Linux Mint 20 “Ulyana” Cinnamon Edition however it just comes back with system up to date. would appreciate any suggestions and thanks in advance
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Code: Select all

cat /etc/os-release
will give the release you are running.

Re: Linux Mint 20 “Ulyana” Cinnamon released!

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:07 pm
by SteveR
I'm in the process of upgrading from Mint 19.3 on my home computers. The first update (as a fresh install over 19.3) went well, but then it was the simplest to upgrade since there was virtually no customization with that computer. Furthermore, I have the home directory on a separate partition so all I had to do was modify the "fstab" file to reconnect it to the root partition.

Question concerning Warpinator compared to Samba. Has anyone posted a comparison of the two?

Re: Linux Mint 20 “Ulyana” Cinnamon released!

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:45 am
by Moem
Fizz wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:16 am
Another more general question- what are the advantages of Ubuntu 20 over 18? That is, how does being based on Ubuntu 20 make Mint 20 better?
One hopes that newer releases would be better... I mean, the general goal is to improve. But that's a little esotheric. A very simple and concrete answer: it makes it compatible with more up-to-date software.

Re: Linux Mint 20 “Ulyana” Cinnamon released!

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:57 pm
by KATAMAPAH
Any ETA on how to upgrade from 19.3 to 20 ? There is a specific bug related to DisplayLink docking stations that is addressed in Ubuntu 20.04 and which I couldn't resolved in 19.3 (and I hope will be addressed in LM).

Re: Linux Mint 20 “Ulyana” Cinnamon released!

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:09 pm
by zcot
KATAMAPAH wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:57 pm
Any ETA on how to upgrade from 19.3 to 20 ?
Yes, The Official 20 release was on June 27. And also there was a Monthly News post on that day. It's in the blog, and the post is on this forum right beside this thread.

But it says something like "we will spend the next 2 weeks focusing on the upgrade path and (some other thing)".

So today is about 1 week. And two weeks takes us up to July 10 or 11. So, ETA, is around a week from now.

Re: Linux Mint 20 “Ulyana” Cinnamon released!

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:07 pm
by deck_luck
Makarios wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 5:20 am
Way past just Cool.

How do I upgrade from 19.3?
The good folks at Linux Mint are the authority on upgrading Linux Mint. Use the official
How to upgrade to Linux Mint 20 information.

I do not trust any third party gratuitously advertising their web site to generate web traffic, or a forum user posting an upgrade tutorial. The official Linux Mint Team is the only trusted source. Always, read the Official Announcement and Release Notice before upgrading to Linux Mint 20.

Re: Linux Mint 20 “Ulyana” Cinnamon released!

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:18 pm
by Pjotr
Well, my position remains the same: an in-place upgrade is something I only recommend within a Mint series (e.g. the 19 series). For upgrading from one series (e.g. the 19) to another (e.g. the 20) I recommend a clean installation.

Of course I respect and appreciate the considerable amount of effort that the devs have put into making the upgrade from 19.x to 20 as painless as possible. But still I think the "jump" in the underlying codebase is so big, that a clean installation of 20 is technically the best solution.

Re: Linux Mint 20 “Ulyana” Cinnamon released!

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:24 pm
by mattlach
Kadaitcha Man wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:20 am
mattlach wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:23 pm
I'm also hoping I can still use ifupdown. I am not a huge fan of netplan.
Netplan in Linux Mint is configured to let NetworkManager do the work so it's essentially disabled.
I don't like configuring things using GUI screens.

/etc/network/interfaces is the only place I ever want to configure my network devices.

Re: Linux Mint 20 “Ulyana” Cinnamon released!

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:21 pm
by Kadaitcha Man
mattlach wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:24 pm
I don't like configuring things using GUI screens.
Thanks for sharing.

NetworkManager != network-manager-gnome

NetworkManager

Re: Linux Mint 20 “Ulyana” Cinnamon released!

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:40 am
by Buffy
I alrady updated a couple systems (one a VM and one a host) using the official method and it worked great. \o/

Re: Linux Mint 20 “Ulyana” Cinnamon released!

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:27 am
by AZgl1500
mattlach wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:24 pm

I don't like configuring things using GUI screens.

/etc/network/interfaces is the only place I ever want to configure my network devices.

I looked at that location, and didn't find any info indicating my network.

how are you setting up your network manually there?

this is all that I saw:

# interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8)
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

Re: Linux Mint 20 “Ulyana” Cinnamon released!

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:38 am
by Vladimir00
I upgraded to linux mint 20.Free space on my hard drive decreased slightly.This is normal? :D

Re: Linux Mint 20 “Ulyana” Cinnamon released!

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:04 pm
by rene
I'd think so yes. sudo apt-get clean?

Re: Linux Mint 20 “Ulyana” Cinnamon released!

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:09 pm
by zcot
AZgl1500 wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:27 am
this is all that I saw:
but you didn't see managed=false because that's not how the default config is working for all of us. :lol:
Vladimir00 wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:38 am
I upgraded to linux mint 20.Free space on my hard drive decreased slightly.This is normal? :D
If you normally did not use Timeshift before, then using it during the upgrade would use maybe 6GB for the snapshot. You can get rid of that, and/or probably should at least give a newly updated snapshot.