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AZgl1800 wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:34 am what do you mean by 'snapping' ?
That, what in 20.3 Cinnamon is offered and named as such in this setting window.
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Cosmo. wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:32 am
apawelec wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:18 am Anybody knows what happened with this configuration section, looks like only highlighted setting is available in new version?
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I found toggling between modes (with control by default) extremely useful and be missing it if it's no longer available in new version...
Snapping has been silently removed, one of the regressions in LM 21 Cinnamon. Sadly not one word about that in the changelog.
(Besides that: Having now a separate settings window for the remaining 2 options appears as a bad joke. They could had been easily be placed into the window settings, but in that case everybody would have noticed the regression at once. :( )
Oh, that's really sad... I will stay on Mint 20.3 for now. Hope they will bring it back in one of next versions.
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This is not the only silent regression.
On the other side I do not see any new or enhanced killer feature, so I decided already during the beta phase to skip LM 21.
The only theoretical aspect could had been Blueman, but Blueberry works here without any problems, so - really no reason to upgrade.
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DPM wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 2:20 am The breaking changes in Cinnamon are a bummer for the applets, e.g. Weather doesn't work. That's pretty bad because the ecosystem is now full of broken addons with no real indication on what works. Looks like Mint 21 is a release to be skipped. Hopefully, things will improve until Mint 21.1. Otherwise, it could become a case of "terminally broken".
I'm going to skip this release as well. I already tested my custom cinnamon theme and popup menu theming is broken. .menu.bottom and the rest of the side menus don't react to border-radius and border properties while they work perfectly fine in Cinnamon versions starting from 3.8.8 until and excluding 5.4. That's a bummer for me, so I'll wait for 21.1 and see how it goes.
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DPM wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 2:20 am The breaking changes in Cinnamon are a bummer for the applets, e.g. Weather doesn't work. That's pretty bad because the ecosystem is now full of broken addons with no real indication on what works. Looks like Mint 21 is a release to be skipped. Hopefully, things will improve until Mint 21.1. Otherwise, it could become a case of "terminally broken".
Weather applet (weather@mockturtl) works fine here even on a live USB. I backed up my preferences "export to a file" and imported them in a fresh install.
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apawelec wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:45 am
Cosmo. wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:32 am
apawelec wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:18 am Anybody knows what happened with this configuration section, looks like only highlighted setting is available in new version?
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I found toggling between modes (with control by default) extremely useful and be missing it if it's no longer available in new version...
Snapping has been silently removed, one of the regressions in LM 21 Cinnamon. Sadly not one word about that in the changelog.
(Besides that: Having now a separate settings window for the remaining 2 options appears as a bad joke. They could had been easily be placed into the window settings, but in that case everybody would have noticed the regression at once. :( )
Oh, that's really sad... I will stay on Mint 20.3 for now. Hope they will bring it back in one of next versions.
Hmmm ... So sorry to hear. :(

In this case, I may be staying behind, too (i.e., on Mint 20.3).
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HarryHouTX wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:02 am

Weather applet (weather@mockturtl) works fine here even on a live USB. I backed up my preferences "export to a file" and imported them in a fresh install.
I just looked at "preferences" in the LM20.3 Cinnamon menu and failed to see "export to a file"

What did I miss here? :?:

I would love to do just that alone as a backup to my other backup methods.
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What did I miss here? :?:
Applets have a "gear" icon on the top right that allows importing/exporting settings. Here is an example:
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spamegg wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 11:25 am
What did I miss here? :?:
Applets have a "gear" icon on the top right
Dependent from some settings it can appear as a hamburger icon. (I was not yet able to find, which setting is responsible. On 20.3 and 21 I always get the hamburger icon.)
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Interesting, I guess the icon theme can change it from a hamburger to a gear icon? Didn't know that :lol: It's a good thing I posted a screenshot then, because it's in the same location :D
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Macdhai wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 9:57 am Can I help it if it's a day off and there's the possibility of a new toy to play with? I feel like Cartman waiting for the Nintendo Wii to come out. lol

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spamegg wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 11:25 am
What did I miss here? :?:
Applets have a "gear" icon on the top right that allows importing/exporting settings. Here is an example:
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I take it then,
that you must open each Applet in turn, and Export that one Applet's Preferences to a file?

what a PITA,
should be able to do all of them at once.....

I will just stick with Aptik, it works
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AZgl1800 wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 10:40 am
HarryHouTX wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:02 am

Weather applet (weather@mockturtl) works fine here even on a live USB. I backed up my preferences "export to a file" and imported them in a fresh install.
I just looked at "preferences" in the LM20.3 Cinnamon menu and failed to see "export to a file"

What did I miss here? :?:

I would love to do just that alone as a backup to my other backup methods.
Its on the applet itself.
In the tray on Weather, right click "Configure ..."
In the upper right hand you will see a hamburger menu button.
Click on that.
"Export to a file"

And yes, to avoid doing it for every applet I run a script to rsync everything to a backup SSD.
Preferences are saved in ~/.cinnamon/configs/
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Is there going to be an Edge version for 21?
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HarryHouTX wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:20 pm Its on the applet itself.
In the tray on Weather, right click "Configure ..."
In the upper right hand you will see a hamburger menu button.
Click on that.
"Export to a file"

And yes, to avoid doing it for every applet I run a script to rsync everything to a backup SSD.
Preferences are saved in ~/.cinnamon/configs/
sorry, but I have no clue what the path prefix is where the Tilde character is....
I have searched /home and /root
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TinMan1325 wrote: Is there going to be an Edge version for 21?
I would expect so. Historically, those are typically released a week or so after their non-Edge counterparts.

Apparently not.
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JoeFootball wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 9:10 pm I would expect so. Historically, those are typically released a week or so after their non-Edge counterparts.
Nice. Thank you
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TinMan1325 wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 9:02 pm Is there going to be an Edge version for 21?
The Edge versions came out because by the time LM20.1 was released, enough time had passed there was new hardware which would have problems with the 5.4 LTS kernel that LM20 had. Also, by then an HWE kernel had been released.

Ubuntu 22.04 just came out in April with its 5.15 LTS kernel. I would not expect an HWE kernel until the fall release of Ubuntu which means there is no "edge" kernel currently available to create an edge version of Linux Mint.
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