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Things I would like to see in future Mints

Post by Pariah » Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:45 pm

There are a few things I would love to see in future Mints:

1. chocolate...okay just kidding..
2. Mint Menu as an applet for AWN<--dead serious!
3. Force Quit as an applet for AWN or the ability to add it as if it were an app right to the bar (yes, this is more a Gnome issue but...
4. Thoughts 2 and 3 come about because I hate, hate, hate having to have a gnome panel open as well as the dock if I want to use Force Quit and Mint Menu (and I do)
5. Perhaps a system notifications applet too? like for Mint Updates....

I was lured back to Mint 7 after leaving Mint 6 for Mandriva!!!

Thanks Clem et. al. for all the hard work :)

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Re: Things I would like to see in future Mints

Post by Kaye » Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:12 am

Sounds like most of these are issues you're gonna want to take up with the AWN people. I highly doubt Clem or the rest of the team will devote so much time to a specific application that not everyone will use.

That's not to say they're bad ideas (I would love to see a dock with MintMenu), it's just unrealistic when the team has so much going on.
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Re: Things I would like to see in future Mints

Post by vrkalak » Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:41 am

Mmmm . . .MintChocolate !!

Or is that ChocolateMint ?

The AWN changes would be nice.
I like AWN, a whole lot better than Docky.
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Re: Things I would like to see in future Mints

Post by lagagnon » Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:14 am

AWN items are called launchers, not applets, and it is very easy to make your own ( http://wiki.awn-project.org/index.php?t ... the_bar.3F ). For example to make a force quite launcher just add the command : "gnome-power-cmd shutdown" to a launcher item. I don't know the command to raise the mintMenu but maybe someone else here know it then all you have to do yourself is make a launcher to that command.

I do not think AWN or specialist launchers should be added to Mint - these are extras that many will not want and can be installed later by the user.

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Re: Things I would like to see in future Mints

Post by Pariah » Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:12 pm

lagagnon wrote:AWN items are called launchers, not applets, and it is very easy to make your own ( http://wiki.awn-project.org/index.php?t ... the_bar.3F ). For example to make a force quite launcher just add the command : "gnome-power-cmd shutdown" to a launcher item. I don't know the command to raise the mintMenu but maybe someone else here know it then all you have to do yourself is make a launcher to that command.

I do not think AWN or specialist launchers should be added to Mint - these are extras that many will not want and can be installed later by the user.
Well anytime I open my AWN manager, I do tend to see a tab called Applets *quirks an eyebrow* and I was indeed referring to applets, not launchers thank you. I wanted an applet.. but at anyrate, well meaning I hope... And now a more sincere thanks for the command for a force-quit launcher, that was helpful.

Yes @ Kaye, probably unrealistic but it is just wishful hoping and you never know until you ask right? ;) I would be a very happy camper with a mintMenu on the dock, I could stop using those awful panels i hate so much lol

@ Vrkalak, I agree..although Gnome-Do is my (by far) most favorite app, I don't like Docky..if it gets redone (a lot) I might get on board though...and Chocolate Mint for me lol

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Re: Things I would like to see in future Mints

Post by chiff » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:31 pm

Hi All,

I would like to add that "Xiphos" be included into the main software like Firefox and Open Office. Its a very difficult program to install manually. Am sure many people would be truly grateful.

Kind regards.

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Post by Kaye » Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:17 am

chiff wrote:Hi All,

I would like to add that "Xiphos" be included into the main software like Firefox and Open Office. Its a very difficult program to install manually. Am sure many people would be truly grateful.

Kind regards.
I, for one, would probably discontinue the use of Mint if it came default with any religious study material.
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Re: Things I would like to see in future Mints

Post by pluraldave » Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:02 am

chiff wrote:Hi All,

I would like to add that "Xiphos" be included into the main software like Firefox and Open Office. Its a very difficult program to install manually. Am sure many people would be truly grateful.

Kind regards.
Did you follow the download links for Ubuntu? It looks very easy to me, they even have a deb to add the PPA for you. :o

As for adding it as default I don't think that is a good idea. We really don't want a situation where Mint appears to be for or against any particular race or religion.

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Re: Things I would like to see in future Mints

Post by DrHu » Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:26 am

Pariah wrote:There are a few things I would love to see in future Mints:
1. chocolate...okay just kidding..
2. Mint Menu as an applet for AWN<--dead serious!
3. Force Quit as an applet for AWN or the ability to add it as if it were an app right to the bar (yes, this is more a Gnome issue but...
yes, this is more a Gnome issue but...
In the Gnome desktop for Linux mint 7 (gloria) 32bit main edition
right-click panel>Add to panel>Force quit

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Re: Things I would like to see in future Mints

Post by rhY » Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:43 pm

Deluge instead of Transmission. VLC instead of Totem. An improved Pidgin that can actually best Skype (and on Windows!).

Other than that, Mint is damn near perfect as is! Having an optional AWN config that automagically replaced the bottom panel might be sweet. Maybe a script that just did that from somewhere in the personalize menu.

Viva La Mint!

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Re: Things I would like to see in future Mints

Post by chiff » Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:33 pm

pluraldave wrote:
chiff wrote:Hi All,

I would like to add that "Xiphos" be included into the main software like Firefox and Open Office. Its a very difficult program to install manually. Am sure many people would be truly grateful.

Kind regards.
Did you follow the download links for Ubuntu? It looks very easy to me, they even have a deb to add the PPA for you. :o

As for adding it as default I don't think that is a good idea. We really don't want a situation where Mint appears to be for or against any particular race or religion.
Hi,
I did follow all instructions carefully. My comment still stands. Its a difficult program to install. As a Christian I believe its a very good idea to add Xiphos to the main program and many people would agree, I am sure. Let the people who don't wish to use it - Uninstall it if they so choose or just not use it. I am sure that you do Not use every program or app that is in the Main Distro. This is Not about starting any so-called religious debate on the issue. This is my opinion as a Christian as to what I would like included. You have the right to state what you would like included. There is No issue

Kind regards.

Chiff.

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Re: Things I would like to see in future Mints

Post by DrHu » Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:24 pm

chiff wrote:I believe its a very good idea to add Xiphos to the main program and many people would agree, I am sure. Let the people who don't wish to use it - Uninstall it if they so choose or just not use it. I am sure that you do Not use every program or app that is in the Main Distro. This is my opinion as a Christian as to what I would like included. You have the right to state what you would like included. There is No issue
There is No issue
That's true, there is no issue about what might or might not be included, apart from practical concerns

I am sure that you do Not use every program or...
True, and fair enough, but I am sure you also realize that popular culture doesn't encourage niche products
--you can even see that on a non-philosophical basis

Someone may suggest that a media Linux mint be a default
--so they would be looking for dvd editors, non-linear editing and mythTV or other media display methods: they don't usually get it; and anyway Ubuntu has gone off in that direction already, with their customized niche packaging..
http://news.softpedia.com/news/First-Lo ... 8640.shtml
--I don't know if they would have a Christian edition, but it is a possibility; someone such as yourself could perhaps organize that, you would be using remastersys to customize a Linux mint to make it more custom for that specific user group
http://www.ubuntuce.com/
--a Christian edition, Ubuntu

I am a niche market myself, in fact many people are, hence the large number of specific magazines (print) or on-line catering to their own interests..

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Re: Things I would like to see in future Mints

Post by Kaye » Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:57 pm

chiff wrote:There is No issue.
Except that there is an issue.. I'm sure you wouldn't be too happy if Mint came default with a program promoting Atheism and stating that religion is completely untrue (I'm not saying this, I'm only setting up a scenario here).

I'm not trying to get into any kind of debate, but it absolutely is an issue.
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Re: Things I would like to see in future Mints

Post by exploder » Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:12 pm

I would like to add that "Xiphos" be included into the main software like Firefox and Open Office. Its a very difficult program to install manually. Am sure many people would be truly grateful.
It is best to keep religion and politics up to the user. I am sure that someone here could help you install Xiphos if you need help. No disrespect intended for the suggestion and I hope you understand my response.

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Re: Things I would like to see in future Mints

Post by phil » Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:36 pm

I would like to see only essentials to get the system running. It is my problem to add the things I would like such as operating temperatures, some launchers, games for my wife. My download speed is slow as molasses and that means that it takes me 10 hours to download an iso, so please do not do like you did with KDE. I don't use KDE but I see a trend with very high download speeds that are available some places in the world.

It is wonderful to have a working system right out of the box, but please don't include drivers for video or anything else we can do without to get going.

Mint Update and Synaptic are very good and easy to use to add on whatever your preferences might be.

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Post by Colonel Schell » Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:38 pm

Somewhere I have seen both Christian and Muslim editions of Ubuntu. I recall some debate about why DistroWatch did not include the Satanic Edition of Ubuntu (which was not a CE, as I recall).

However, as a Christian I would still like to side in on the side of making Mint completely non-partisan. Thank you.
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Re: Things I would like to see in future Mints

Post by rhY » Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:54 pm

Watch Zeitgeist. Though I like your "Christ", specifically, the table flipping, booze making, sick healing, non-tax-paying one, I have many, many issues with most "Christians" I have met. At any rate, watch Zeitgeist.

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Re: Things I would like to see in future Mints

Post by Colonel Schell » Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:08 pm

Now, what I really want to see in future editions of Mint is a neural interface, and a roving Internet link so I can live online, everywhere I go. I know this includes hardware issues, so we have a lot of work to do.
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Re: Things I would like to see in future Mints

Post by rhY » Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:35 pm

Yes, but I don't trust ATI drivers in my brain.

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Re: Things I would like to see in future Mints

Post by Kaye » Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:40 pm

Colonel Schell wrote:Now, what I really want to see in future editions of Mint is a neural interface, and a roving Internet link so I can live online, everywhere I go. I know this includes hardware issues, so we have a lot of work to do.
I hope this never happens.. the world would be such a boring place. No one would ever talk to anyone else in real life, everything would be virtual. I doubt if we'd even leave our houses for much of anything. Blech :|
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