You are entitled to your opinion. If you don't like Mint 11 use another distro. I say this because I am a brand new Mint user. Mandriva has been my preferred distro since I began using Linux in 1997. I've always been a KDE type of user, but with the advent of KDE4 I began to test the waters with Gnome. Over the years I've used probably a dozen different flavors of Linux, but Mandriva (formerly Mandrake) was my choice because I really like the way Mandriva organizes the desktop and the DrakTools have been, in my opinion, superior to any other for configuration. Lately, because of KDE 4, I've been quite unhappy with the performance of my Mandriva system (I don't use cutting edge hardware). Ubuntu works fine on my old Pentium 4's, but Gnome has never been my cup of tea. I don't like the Gnome Panels, which is a problem that I can fix with AWN (I tried Cairo, but found it to be unstable, though very pretty), but then there is the ugly default Gnome icons which show up in various incomplete icon sets. This I can fix, but it is a time consuming process and not something I really want to spend hours to get right. So, having heard good things about Mint, I decided to give it a try. Quite frankly, Mint 11 quickly became my distro of choice. It is fast, and Mint's panel and menu layout is just fine for me, right out of the box, and I don't even miss the Mandriva menu. Plus, the KDE programs that I really want, K3B and KMail are easily installed and work perfectly. The ugly Gnome icon problem doesn't exist and the default installation of multimedia codecs saves time, too. I rate Mint 11 as a "10", and I will likely be installing it on my wife's machine as soon as Mandriva 2010.1 with KDE 3.5 is deprecated.