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Postby Profsmith » Fri Feb 05, 2016 6:28 pm

Hi all, can anyone recommend a good, preferably free VPN for LM 17.2?

Cheers

Steve

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Re: VPN

Postby Pierre » Sat Feb 06, 2016 6:26 am

the idea of free is not always the best idea,
so a small cost is sometimes , the better idea.
or - they then have to sell your data - to make a profit.

the other consideration is to use a VPN that is not based in your target area.
ie: if your target is the USA - then don't use a US based VPN.
- think NSA etc etc

https://www.bestvpn.com/blog/18736/5-best-free-vpn-2/
- is just one review.
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Re: VPN

Postby killer de bug » Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:15 am

I agree with Pierre. If there is something you need to pay for, it's a VPN. Otherwise you cannot trust them. :wink:
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Re: VPN

Postby Profsmith » Sun Feb 07, 2016 12:09 am

OK, I was looking at IPVanish as I used them for my previous Win machine. They were rather expensive though, around $30 a month and seemed to rely on servers around the Baltic region.

I am going to have a look at NordVPN and see if they support LM.

Cheers

Steve

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Re: VPN

Postby Ion ore » Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:50 pm

Profsmith wrote:OK, I was looking at IPVanish as I used them for my previous Win machine. They were rather expensive though, around $30 a month and seemed to rely on servers around the Baltic region.

I am going to have a look at NordVPN and see if they support LM.

Cheers

Steve

Privacytools.io have a good list of VPNs. Their requirements are "outside the US, use encryption, accept Bitcoin, support OpenVPN and have a no logging policy". Some of them also donate to the EFF. There's a comprehensive spreadsheet available here, courtesy of ThatOnePrivacyGuy from Reddit.

I just got NordVPN and can confirm that it works with Linux Mint. They also have a sale on with the coupon "70off" (not sure how I discovered it, they might've added it automatically). They don't have port forwarding yet though (coming in March) and they only allow p2p on select servers.

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Re: VPN

Postby phd21 » Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:41 pm

Hi "Profsmith", and anyone else interested in this,

I just read your post and the good replies to it. Here are my thoughts on this as well.

As other users (Pierre, killer de bug) have already mentioned, free does not necessarily mean better.

I have been studying VPN providers and services, changing DNS server IP addresses (also smart thing to do), & general home and office networking in Linux Mint for other Linux Mint users and myself.

I would highly recommend that you (& everyone else) use a VPN for security and for other very good reasons. Most of the really good VPN providers, like "Private Internet Access (PIA)", only charge a few dollars a month, and provide much faster Internet access speeds, some have customizable features, rather than using the free VPN providers. But, even a free VPN is better than not using a VPN. I would also highly recommend that you use the "openVPN" protocol (the most secure VPN protocol) with a "TCP" connection for the best security when using a VPN.

The 2 best free VPN providers that I have found so far, with unlimited access, are "vpnbook", and "vpngate".
Excellent Instructions - How to setup a VPN.
http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/05/establish-openvpn-connection-ubuntu-1404/

"vpnbook"
- works very well, probably not as fast as your ISP connection, but certainly good enough for surfing worldwide, and much more secure.
- they change their login passwords every 1-2 weeks, not a big deal to click your VPN connection(s) to "edit" it and update the password which is on their website.
- As far as I can tell, you cannot do "P2P", or use torrent clients, even on their "Europe" servers.
http://www.vpnbook.com/

"vpngate"
- works very well, probably not as fast as your ISP connection, but certainly good enough for surfing worldwide, and much more secure.
- has numerous server locations worldwide.
- they do not change their passwords, their login name is always "vpn" and their password is always "vpn".
- As far as I can tell, you can do "P2P", or use torrent clients, but it is much slower than your typical ISP connection, but much safer.
http://www.vpngate.net/en/


Private Internet Access (PIA) - $6.95/month, or $39.95/year (Only $3.33/month),
or $35.95/6 months (Only $5.99/month)
https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/

Are you sure "IPvanish" charges $30 a month? I just checked, they charge $10 per month, and $77.99 ( $6.49 per month) per year.
https://www.ipvanish.com/

"openvpn" -creators of the "openvpn" protocol.
https://openvpn.net/

"openvpn" has also provides their own VPN service, "PrivateTunnel", $29.99 per year (~$2.50 per month), and other options.
https://www.privatetunnel.com/home/
PrivateTunnel - various pricing options.
https://www.privatetunnel.com/home/pricing/

And, there are many more "paid for" VPN providers available...

Hope this helps ...
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Re: VPN

Postby killer de bug » Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:16 pm

phd21 wrote:I would also highly recommend that you use the "openVPN" protocol (the most secure VPN protocol)

Well there seems to be concerns about them. Or?
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Re: VPN

Postby phd21 » Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:32 pm

Hi "killer de bug",

If you know something that I am not aware of regarding "openVPN", then please share it. As far as everything that I have been reading (which is a lot), it is the most secure VPN protocol when using a TCP or UDP connection.

Which is the Best VPN Protocol? PPTP vs. OpenVPN vs. L2TP/IPsec vs. SSTP
In Summary: OpenVPN is new and secure, although you will need to install a third-party application. This is the one you should probably use.

http://www.howtogeek.com/211329/which-is-the-best-vpn-protocol-pptp-vs.-openvpn-vs.-l2tpipsec-vs.-sstp/

PPTP vs L2TP vs OpenVPN vs SSTP vs IKEv2
see links in this article
Update: I have now written two companion piece to this article, titled VPN encryption terms explained (AES vs RSA vs SHA etc.) and A Complete Guide to IP Leaks. If you are interested in this subject, be sure to check them out!

https://www.bestvpn.com/blog/4147/pptp-vs-l2tp-vs-openvpn-vs-sstp-vs-ikev2/

OpenVPN - Security Overview - OpenVPN cryptographic layer
https://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/security-overview.html


Hope this helps ...
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Re: VPN

Postby killer de bug » Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:58 pm

No I don't really know anything. I must be confused. I was wondering if I had not seen their name somewhere but I can't remember. Therefore if you are telling me that they are clean, then I trust you. :wink:
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Re: VPN

Postby phd21 » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:25 pm

Hi "killer de bug", and anyone else interested in this,

Yes, I am telling you that from what I have read, that they are "clean", as you put it. And, I have also provided some web links to articles for anyone to read. You can also search the Internet as well. There are other posts, some very recent, in this forum regarding VPN's and VPN providers that are worth looking at.

I have not personally tried any of the "paid for" VPN providers, yet. But, I have read about them. I have tried, and I am currently using the free "vpnbook" and "vpngate" VPN providers.

Hope this helps ...
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Re: VPN resolved

Postby Profsmith » Tue Feb 09, 2016 11:19 pm

Hey guys, thanks to all those who provided info and pointers, I've tried for the last 2 days to get IPVanish installed, but I have no idea why it's not working. I need to do a complete reinstall of LM and I'll go from there. Its probably something I'm doing wrong, but I'm out of patience and energy.

BTW, yep, IPVaanish is only 79 a year, I had it confused with something else.

Regards

Steve

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Re: VPN

Postby bradhaddin81 » Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:13 am

phd21 wrote:Hi "Profsmith", and anyone else interested in this,

I just read your post and the good replies to it. Here are my thoughts on this as well.

As other users (Pierre, killer de bug) have already mentioned, free does not necessarily mean better.

I have been studying VPN providers and services, changing DNS server IP addresses (also smart thing to do), & general home and office networking in Linux Mint for other Linux Mint users and myself.

I would highly recommend that you (& everyone else) use a VPN for security and for other very good reasons. Most of the really good VPN providers, like "Private Internet Access (PIA)", only charge a few dollars a month, and provide much faster Internet access speeds, some have customizable features, rather than using the free VPN providers. But, even a free VPN is better than not using a VPN. I would also highly recommend that you use the "openVPN" protocol (the most secure VPN protocol) with a "TCP" connection for the best security when using a VPN.

The 2 best free VPN providers that I have found so far, with unlimited access, are "vpnbook", and "vpngate".
Excellent Instructions - How to setup a VPN.
http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/05/establish-openvpn-connection-ubuntu-1404/

"vpnbook"
- works very well, probably not as fast as your ISP connection, but certainly good enough for surfing worldwide, and much more secure.
- they change their login passwords every 1-2 weeks, not a big deal to click your VPN connection(s) to "edit" it and update the password which is on their website.
- As far as I can tell, you cannot do "P2P", or use torrent clients, even on their "Europe" servers.
Best Canada vpn

"vpngate"
- works very well, probably not as fast as your ISP connection, but certainly good enough for surfing worldwide, and much more secure.
- has numerous server locations worldwide.
- they do not change their passwords, their login name is always "vpn" and their password is always "vpn".
- As far as I can tell, you can do "P2P", or use torrent clients, but it is much slower than your typical ISP connection, but much safer.
http://www.vpngate.net/en/


Private Internet Access (PIA) - $6.95/month, or $39.95/year (Only $3.33/month),
or $35.95/6 months (Only $5.99/month)
https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/

Are you sure "IPvanish" charges $30 a month? I just checked, they charge $10 per month, and $77.99 ( $6.49 per month) per year.
https://www.ipvanish.com/

"openvpn" -creators of the "openvpn" protocol.
https://openvpn.net/

"openvpn" has also provides their own VPN service, "PrivateTunnel", $29.99 per year (~$2.50 per month), and other options.
https://www.privatetunnel.com/home/
PrivateTunnel - various pricing options.
https://www.privatetunnel.com/home/pricing/

And, there are many more "paid for" VPN providers available...

Hope this helps ...


I think that you guys are sharing all the paid vpns - can anyone tell me that which is the best free vpn?

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Re: VPN

Postby Pierre » Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:34 am

probably *not*
:o

but: the fastest VPN for your area ??
https://www.vpnify.me/
is the "the World’s First Localized VPN Speed Testing Tool-Find The Fastest VPN".
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Re: VPN

Postby phd21 » Tue Mar 15, 2016 3:02 pm

Hi "bradhaddin81",

In My Humble Opinion (IMHO), the best free VPN providers that I have found, are the ones that I have already mentioned, "vpnbook", and "vpngate" because they have unlimited usage and work well, although they are slower than using a "paid for" VPN provider, and probably slower than your normal local ISP connection is; but, you would be much safer and more secure using a VPN, even a free vpn.


"Pierre": that's an interesting link, thank you...

Hope this helps ...
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Re: VPN

Postby tiffanyfrancis77 » Fri Jul 22, 2016 3:16 am

phd21 wrote:Hi "Profsmith", and anyone else interested in this,

I just read your post and the good replies to it. Here are my thoughts on this as well.

As other users (Pierre, killer de bug) have already mentioned, free does not necessarily mean better.

I have been studying VPN providers and services, changing DNS server IP addresses (also smart thing to do), & general home and office networking in Linux Mint for other Linux Mint users and myself.

I would highly recommend that you (& everyone else) use a VPN for security and for other very good reasons. Most of the really good VPN providers, like "Private Internet Access (PIA)", only charge a few dollars a month, and provide much faster Internet access speeds, some have customizable features, rather than using the free VPN providers. But, even a free VPN is better than not using a VPN. I would also highly recommend that you use the "openVPN" protocol (the most secure VPN protocol) with a "TCP" connection for the best security when using a VPN.

The 2 best free VPN providers that I have found so far, with unlimited access, are "vpnbook", and "vpngate".
Excellent Instructions - How to setup a VPN.
http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/05/establish-openvpn-connection-ubuntu-1404/

"vpnbook"
- works very well, probably not as fast as your ISP connection, but certainly good enough for surfing worldwide, and much more secure.
- they change their login passwords every 1-2 weeks, not a big deal to click your VPN connection(s) to "edit" it and update the password which is on their website.
- As far as I can tell, you cannot do "P2P", or use torrent clients, even on their "Europe" servers.
http://www.vpnbook.com/

"vpngate"
- works very well, probably not as fast as your ISP connection, but certainly good enough for surfing worldwide, and much more secure.
- has numerous server locations worldwide.
- they do not change their passwords, their login name is always "vpn" and their password is always "vpn".
- As far as I can tell, you can do "P2P", or use torrent clients, but it is much slower than your typical ISP connection, but much safer.
http://www.vpngate.net/en/


Private Internet Access (PIA) - $6.95/month, or $39.95/year (Only $3.33/month),
or $35.95/6 months (Only $5.99/month)
https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/

PureVPN - $9.99/month, or $60.00/2 years (Only $2.49/month),
or $47.94/6 months (Only $7.99/month)
https://www.purevpn.com/order/

Are you sure "IPvanish" charges $30 a month? I just checked, they charge $10 per month, and $77.99 ( $6.49 per month) per year.
https://www.ipvanish.com/

"openvpn" -creators of the "openvpn" protocol.
https://openvpn.net/

"openvpn" has also provides their own VPN service, "PrivateTunnel", $29.99 per year (~$2.50 per month), and other options.
https://www.privatetunnel.com/home/
PrivateTunnel - various pricing options.
https://www.privatetunnel.com/home/pricing/

And, there are many more "paid for" VPN providers available...

Hope this helps ...


Most of them are paid VPNs. Some other VPNs offers free trials such as Cyberghost, VyprVPN etc.

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Re: VPN

Postby Profsmith » Tue Aug 02, 2016 11:26 pm

Thank you all for your replies, I'm not financial at the moment so I'm putting off a VPN decision.

Regards

Steve

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Re: VPN

Postby micjustin33 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:42 am

If you are not financial at the moment then use CyberGhost, the only best free vpn I have ever seen. However their is less security with free vpns but CyberGhost is not new and most of people prefer to use it when it comes to free one.

Secondly there are some good VPNs that offer discount on annual plan, so you just need to pay few bucks on monthly basis such as ($1 to $3 per month). I guess you can manage that amount on monthly basis. You can easily find their discount deals by searching on Google or visit any vpn reviews site.

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Re: VPN

Postby millpond » Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:10 pm

Some considerations for VPN users:

Make sure the provider ensures that no logs are kept.

Make sure that there are plenty of servers available worldwide. Its nice to watch BBC programs from a London server, that are normally geoip restricted.

Servers in Hong Kong and Moscow might also keep the NSA from spying if you are researching arab sites.

Make sure they allow you to use OpenVPN (provide scripts) so you have more control over the connection. This requires a bit of learning curve but is well worth it.

Servers disconnect and or hang the TUN/TAP. Its important to find out what happens if this occurs. Some will disconnect and revert the entire connection back to local IP. OpenVPN tends to hang the connection, so that the TUN needs to be reset ('network-manager reset' seens to work great).

Turn off IPV6 - especially with P2P it can 'leak' your local IP info through the TUN/TAP.

Be aware that some services seem to offer two types of servers: 'normal' and TCP.
On my VPN.ht servers the TCP connections are 128 bit, but much faster. However NSA can decript 128 bit if they are after you. Wouldnt worry about in perusing for **** though! Just avoid headchopper websites.
The normal connections are typically 256 bit (if newer, some use the older 128b) and still would require millions of years of computer time (though theoretically future quantum computers *might* be able to do it.

Do NOT use services based in the US. Sauron *will* shut them down in the fist sign of a national emergency. Hong Kong? Not so much. Plus i dont mind red pinko commies spying on me. I would bore them to tears.

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Re: VPN

Postby peterbuttler » Sat Nov 05, 2016 6:45 am

If you are looking for a Virtual Private Network (VPN) to save your internet traffic identity then you should search for a reliable VPN provider, I sure will able to find a relevant choice.

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Re: VPN

Postby chrisjohnson » Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:27 am

free vpns are not safe, please try to avoid it


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