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Sarah wallpapers and gpl 3.0+ re using?

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:44 pm
by eu2
The Sarah wallpapers are great/amazing.

Out of respect though I'd like to ask a question if I may?

There is a multi platform jigsaw puzzle game (via steam) I've been playing and as the mint wallpapers are amazing I'd like to via the steam workshops use the mint (Sarah) wallpapers as jigsaw puzzles.

Legally I think can do this, but I haven't out of respect, so I'm looking for some advice regarding wordage etc.

Thoughts?

The game although not perfect is quite good (I'm not trying to promote it), it's http://store.steampowered.com/app/379610/

Re: Sarah wallpapers and gpl 3.0+ re using?

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:11 am
by richyrich
If you go into the containing folder, you will see a "Credits" file. Have you looked at that yet ?
(open with your text editor)

Re: Sarah wallpapers and gpl 3.0+ re using?

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:18 am
by MintBean
You are responsible for ensuring any derivative works are released under the GPL license and include a license text (is there even a way to do that with these puzzles, have you checked? How are they shared? If through Steam, are they OK with GPL licensed materials being shared on their system?) and are made available for others to modify. In any case, whether it is released under the GPL or not, you don't have the right to distribute images including the Mint logo for unrelated purposes without permission.

Isn't it just easier to find public domain images?

Re: Sarah wallpapers and gpl 3.0+ re using?

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:19 am
by jimallyn
I looked in /usr/share/wallpapers in both Mint 17.3 Cinnamon and Mint 18 Cinnamon. If you double click an image to open it, then in the image viewer click Image, Properties, Metadata, In 17.3, each image has copyright data. In 18, there is no copyright date. So, I would guess that those in 18 are public domain, and if you want to use something from 17, you should probably contact the listed copyright owner. I imagine there is somebody at mint that knows all the details, but I'm not sure who that would be.

Re: Sarah wallpapers and gpl 3.0+ re using?

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:21 am
by samriggs
Back in my painting days if I seen a pose I liked I use to email the person and see if it was alright if I used the pose or part of it for a painting I had in mind, then I would get it in writing (emailed) that it was approved by the person for the painting even I sold it and total royalty free, just cover my butt.

Without it in writing you stand the risk of it coming back to bite you in the butt later, especially if your making money off of it which could possibly land you in court and being sued, unless there is a release written about it to be royalty free for use and especially for commercial use.
You have to be careful when making games and using other folks images and even their codes to some degree, but images yup get permission first, they might not say it anywhere if it is free or not but if they see it and they created it they can come to you for that for not asking permission.

Being an artist as my trade all my life it was a constant battle artist fought because if it was good other folks used it to make money off of it and then the battle begins because they never had the right to do so.

One artist created some watercolor paintings went a restaurant outside his town seen his paintings on the menu investigated it found the printer who took an image of his paintings used them on the menus and got sued over it, photographers has the same rights as does musicians for the music or sound effects in games.

words of advise from someone who has been in this business for over 30 years get it in writing to cover your butt.

By the way anything I do for linux is totally open source and can be used for anything royalty free and make any changes you want (sometimes I even add the gimp files) :lol:
Unless I get into making games for linux one day then we'll see what happens with that, that's a whole new ball of wax.

Just thought I would throw that in in case anyone wanted to use my stuff or make changes to them and they do which is fine by me 8)

Sam

Re: Sarah wallpapers and gpl 3.0+ re using?

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:36 pm
by eu2
richyrich wrote:If you go into the containing folder, you will see a "Credits" file. Have you looked at that yet ?
(open with your text editor)

Didn't see the credit file at first as its folder is symlinked to from the pics in /usr/share/wallpapers

I kind of assumed they would have been under the gpl since mint are distributing them.
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I'll give that a miss then although some would be ok to use, kinda thought making them into puzzles and putting them on a workshop would have been nice with a mention that they were the mint wallpapers.

I'm glad I asked the question.

Thanks to all for their comments/advice.