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ChrisM
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Respin Mint for an opensource project

Post by ChrisM » Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:13 am

I'm a Dev that works on linuxcnc an opensource machine controller project.
We supply a Debian based DVD to help new users get the required kernel/dependencies.
Debian is not the most new-user friendly distribution.

We have instructions how to use Mint but it requires a lot of compiling etc.
It would be much preferred to supply a Mint based DVD with everything good to go.

I see to do that requires permission to use Mint branding or removing the branding.
So the real questions are:
How does one go about asking for permission?
How does one find out exactly what would need to be rebranded if permission is not granted?

Thank you
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Re: Respin Mint for an opensource project

Post by xenopeek » Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:43 am

Can you clarify on what changes you would be making to Linux Mint's ISO? "to help new users get the required kernel/dependencies" is too unspecific. With some more information from you I can take this request further.

We're responsible for the quality of our ISOs and our name guarantees that an ISO meets our standards. Changes you make to the ISO wouldn't have passed Linux Mint's QA so those are the crux to your request. For some information about why and what you'd have to do if permission won't be given to use our name, see my comment here: viewtopic.php?f=18&t=265504#p1442308
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Re: Respin Mint for an opensource project

Post by catweazel » Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:51 am

xenopeek wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:43 am
see my comment here: viewtopic.php?f=18&t=265504#p1442308
Excellent info. Thank you.
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Re: Respin Mint for an opensource project

Post by ChrisM » Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:53 am

Thank you for you rreply.
I'll try to answer the best I can - I don't actually prepare the ISO image we use.
I am at this point interested in collecting information and finding the best path.

In general:
We package a Realtime kernel either RTAI or PREEMPT. We usually build two different ISO to accommodated this.
We add linuxcnc using debs
We sometimes backport the GLADE 3.8.6 editor.

I believe there are some other packages selected for utility of using linuxcnc such as build essentials etc.

Chris Morley

For reference:
Linuxcnc main website:
http://www.linuxcnc.org/

A forum with info how enthusiasts added linuxcnc to Mint:
https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing ... 440#110641

Current testing Debian ISO repo:
https://github.com/LinuxCNC/stretch-live-build

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Re: Respin Mint for an opensource project

Post by jimallyn » Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:51 am

Maybe another approach, rather than respinning Mint, would be to recommend to your users that they use Mint, and provide them with a script that installs the needed packages and configuration changes.
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Re: Respin Mint for an opensource project

Post by xenopeek » Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:28 am

ChrisM wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:53 am
We package a Realtime kernel either RTAI or PREEMPT. We usually build two different ISO to accommodated this.
We add linuxcnc using debs
We sometimes backport the GLADE 3.8.6 editor.
As long as it is made clear it is a custom version, not the official one, LinuxCNC may use the Linux Mint ISO for above and does not need to remove the Linux Mint name or branding from it.

If you have other questions about using Linux Mint for LinuxCNC, I'm happy to help.
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Re: Respin Mint for an opensource project

Post by ChrisM » Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:09 am

Ahh thats great news! Thank you for your response.

Chris Morley

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Re: Respin Mint for an opensource project

Post by rodw » Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:49 am

As a LinuxCNC user who could never get Linux working on my PC until I installed Mint, I just want to say thanks for allowing the LinuxCNC project to use Mint. I hardly knew anything about Linux back then and had to compile the PREEMPT_RT kernel from source to support the controller hardware I was using so it was a very tough journey. Being able to provide users a simple ISO install is a very exciting prospect!

Through LInuxCNC, I've come to love Mint so much I've installed it on my laptop as well so I'm sure you will win a few more converts. :)

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