Windows 11 requirements: Microsoft says there’s no getting around them

[fstjohn]

Looks like Linux will be getting a whole lot of new users soon
https://www.tomsguide.com/news/these-ar ... windows-11

[Pierre]

there certainly has been a huge confusion over the compatibility issue.


nothing usual, there .. typical Microsoft, really.

sure .. there will be another bunch of PCs that will be re-used for our LinuxMint System.

[motoryzen]

Looks like Linux will be getting a whole lot of new users soon
https://www.tomsguide.com/news/these-ar ... windows-11

*Emperor Palpatine accent*

GOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOD.

*makes evil dancing fingers together to form triangle looking hand motion with big conniving cheesy grin*

[DAMIEN1307]

*Emperor Palpatine accent*......GOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOD.

YES, Gooohooooood...Come to the Dark Side...lol...DAMIEN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIHF8Xe-O6Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3sxDlDxzac

[Bolle1961]

Looks like Linux will be getting a whole lot of new users soon

Dream on. The same was said at the end of XP, Vista and 7
Never happened

[StainlessS]

Windows 11 requirements: Microsoft says there’s no getting around them

Seems that some disagree.

Installing Windows 11 on "Unsupported" Hardware!:- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rDJyMXbPdE
Installed without TPM 2.0, and only 1GB RAM on Core Duo laptop. [requires some setup ISO mods].

High disk usage makes difficult to use on 5400RPM physical drive, 100% disk usage, probably down to high number of Page Faults (low RAM, high pagefile usage),
He Installs SSD and most probs disappear.

Worth a watch.

EDIT: Its likely that later editions will be more demanding, but right now those demands are not too difficult to circumvent.
The ISO mods are for Setup code ONLY, no mods to the OS itself.

[Moonstone Man]

Dream on. The same was said at the end of XP, Vista and 7
Never happened

And the link to a reputable journal's pre-publishing site hosting your peer-reviewed scientific evidence for that claim is what exactly?

[ivar]

Windows 11 requirements: Microsoft says there’s no getting around them

Seems that some disagree.

Looks like the "insider preview" installs on almost anything. I read somewhere that it would install even on hardware that Win10 refused to run on.

Now , the big question is, how much will Microsoft cripple this ability before releasing it...?

[mikeflan]

Dream on. The same was said at the end of XP, Vista and 7
Never happened

I think you are mostly right. More people will abandon the PC or stick with an old win instead of install Linux. But there will certainly be an uptick in Linux use to some degree in my opinion.

[all41]

One MS requirement for Win11 is users--
We can certainly get around that

[Portreve]

Getting Around Microsoft's Requirements:

Step 1: Install Linux (Mint, of course!)

[pinballfan]

Unfortunately I think the general public will get Win 11 no matter what. We live in a world where movies are put out at a rate of knots, and people watch/rate them highly no matter how pathetic they tend to be.

Having a brand and being successful seems to be the most important thing. It's like they are too lazy to look elsewhere.

[DAMIEN1307]

It's like they are too lazy to look elsewhere.

More like they are "Too blind to see"...DAMIEN

[Portreve]

Yesterday, I wiped my tower's M.2 drive completely, and (at least for the time being) all that's on it is Solus.

The future isn't with Microsoft or Windows. And as for the whole "OS as a service" thing, they can shove it.

[sarge816]

Somebody will figure out how to defeat the limitation - they always do. It does reinforce what I've always thought about hardware and software companies being in cahoots to always push planned obsolescence in both industries. I still have a copy of Office 97, and it doesn't have much less core functionality than the newer versions. All about the $.

[sarge816]

The only post that reflects reality here.
80-90% of pc users know nothing about partitions, installing and os and if they ever hear of linux they think it's an alternative windows also thinking compatible in terms of apps and hardware drivers.
Unless linux be adopted from pc builders and become a choice for common users it will never earn more users.
And is linux ready for this? With only five years support certainly not. And all these only for english users.

Although I think several posts reflect reality in this thread, some of your points are valid. I think most Linux users are okay with Linux being a fringe OS, one for people with enough savvy and skill to find it, implement it, and make it work. I'm not sure how much easier the devs can make the transition at this point - you download the OS (for free), make your disc or USB, run it first to see compatibility, and then install it - usually no extra driver downloads or software necessary. Even a full featured Office Suite included, and you can install it in a dual-boot with your current Windows install if you're on the fence. Issues? You have helpful places like these forums, where tons of experienced folks are willing to help. For free. If people are insistent on using Windows software and want everything to be like Windows, then they should reconcile to being stuck using Windows.

[motoryzen]

Many things are not compatible among linux distros and we call it freedom!

It is not the job of Linux devs to ensure Windows or Mac only native software works in the Linux world, but they often try to anyways. Us experienced Linux users don't call that freedom. We understand that things just don't magically work just because it's a free and open sourced world. These things take work.

The freedom part comes involving the following:

1. No product/license key. User can install the Linux distro on as many PCs you want without bs piracy possible charges from the OS ...maker
2. No idiotic arbitrary requirements like TPM 2.0, Secure boot, etc are needed.
3. You can reinstall the distro/OS as many times as you need ( where as in a OEM Windows copy...you're limited to the amount of installs you can do..period before they try to make you buy a new product/license key...even if it's reinstalling into the same storage drive and connected to the same motherboard+cpu+ram)

4. You can actually view the source code ( and if I'm not mistaken) and edit it to suit your needs. Good luck with that in Winwoes.... That won't happen unless you LITERALLY work for Microsoft in their software dev department ..which is pretty thin these days considering Satya Nadella got rid of most of them back in 2015 ( a valid reason why the Windows updates since then have slowly but surely and consistently began causing problems instead of solving them)
5. Far....Far MORE secure = Your chances of getting any form of digital infection/problem in the Linux world are as slim as expecting a 600 pound bmi of 75 fat man to be able to run 3 miled ( as in run....not speed walk , for him, 3 mph) without passing out before even reaching the 1st mile. This has been a fact proven for literally decades now....especially when you compare it to the Windows world. ... Freedom....from...digital infections. It's not 100% perfect, but it's close enough.

6. Updates- YOU...the end user..control how the updates work,....not some hypocritical two faced big corporation who has proven they will NEVER listen to their end users/customers and instead do what they want to. ( Unlike Mint where Clem and the team/s have PROVEN ...they , within sensible intelligent reasoning, actually care about the solid good user experience that they want their end users to have for the past 10+ years in how well Mint has improved in every aspect), you control when you get them, how you get them ( from what sources aka ppa's/respositories and you can change that at any time), how many at once, blacklisting..undoing those blacklisting changes...etc .....

If THAT...isn't digital freedom involving the OS you run on your own PC.....ya don't know what freedom means until you've had a true taste of it. But nothing is perfect. Expecting " perfection" and " freedom" is asinine. There is always some kind of trade off or price. The price for using Linux is the chance that a certain piece of software you're used to using in the Windows or Mac world may not work and you may have to find a work around or an alternative software.

I'll pay that price anyday.