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Hello there, will this be for me?

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:01 pm
by Graham001
Hi guys,
I thought I would use this introduction to ask for advice too.
My name’s Graham and I’m a 56 year old technophobe these days, despite being a computer engineer in a previous life many years ago (anybody remember DOS4 and Windows3.1).
Up until last week I have not had a computer at all for the last 6 years but I have been lucky enough to be gifted a desktop my friends no longer had room for as they are moving. Unfortunately the IT guy they asked to remove their data has not left a bootable partition on the drive so I have to do a complete install of an OS.
I am attracted to Linux as I had heard good things many years ago from friends in the IT business. The little research I have been able to do on my old iPhone is leading me to Mint. It appeals because it is not Windows and it is not as vulnerable to viruses or security violations.
The question is, before I start, is this something I can setup and leave? Or am I going to have to learn programming? I don’t mind the initial learning process but don’t have the time to get into serious studying.
I will only be using the PC for email, Web browsing, YouTube, video communications and possibly recording my guitar.

Part 2; If you think it is suitable for me, the next question is how do I get some form of installation media as I have no way to download the installation packages?

Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer.
I look forward to becoming part of this community if it turns out Mint is a good fit for me.
Cheers

Graham

Re: Hello there, will this be for me?

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:14 pm
by deepakdeshp
Install media is sometimes available with magazines . Otherwise you have to download. You don't need to learn programming to use Mint. Since yours is an ancient computer you can install xfce version.
https://linuxmint-installation-guide.re ... stall.html
Within a fortnight Mint 20 will be out. You can install it rather than present 19 version

Re: Hello there, will this be for me?

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:06 am
by kc1di
Hello Graham,
Welcome to Linux Mint Forums.
If mint is the right choice of OS for the desktop you have will depend on it's hardware. How old is it? XFCE is a good choice for older hardware.
I've never done business with these folks but may be an option for you since you can't download the .iso and burn it. https://www.shoplinuxonline.com/mint.html This would require you system to have a dvd player installed.
an alternative may be to have a friend download the .iso and burn it to usb or dvd for you. Or you may even be able to do it at your local Library if they are open yet.
In any event you'll need to try the live session to see if your machine will play with it ok.
good luck.

Re: Hello there, will this be for me?

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:46 am
by cliffcoggin
Would your donor friends be willing to download your choice of Linux Mint installer onto a USB stick for you? 4 GB is big enough. Perhaps one each of Cinnamon, XFCE, and Mate so you can test them for suitability on your computer. The installer will take care of partitions and formats. You will need an Ethernet connection during installation, because the installer has only the bare minimum to get started and will need to update immediately for a fully functional system.

You won't need to learn any programming, though you should take heed of advice regarding BIOS and UEFI settings before starting the installation. I have been using Mint for three years and use only point & click.

Re: Hello there, will this be for me?

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 9:30 am
by wallyUSA
Graham, can you share info about the computer? DVD drive? USB? Make/model? Vintage? Any info from the bios? Some of this info might help.

Re: Hello there, will this be for me?

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:18 pm
by Graham001
Hi guys,
thanks for taking the time to reply. I didn’t think about the age of the computer and how that would effect what I could use. That just shows how far away from IT I have managed to distance myself. 🥴
The computer is a Lenovo with Intel Core i3-4150 3.50GHZ processor, 8GB RAM, 465GB HDD and has both DVD player and USB ports.

Can you advise with that info which version will work best please. Then I can try and order a dvd from the link kc1di provided.

Thanks again. Your help is really appreciated.

Re: Hello there, will this be for me?

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:43 pm
by deepakdeshp
Mint 20 Cinnamon , the flagship Mint flavor will work with it. This should be out by 15th July. The announcement will be in release section of the forum.

Re: Hello there, will this be for me?

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 6:48 am
by kc1di
Any version of Mint should work on that machine.
my advice is to get copies of each one and give them a try and see which one fits your needs best.
You will need an internet connection to fully appreciate the ability to add software and drivers though.
Good luck in your search.

Re: Hello there, will this be for me?

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 6:57 am
by Pierre
Hi Graham,
welcome to our forum.
:)

unfortunately, you do need an working Computer .. even some-one-else's if necessary,
- - to write an ISO to either an DVD or to an usb stick.

if that can't happen .. then Buy an working copy .. as suggested by kc1di
:)

and if all that Fails .. there will be some-one, on this Forum, that would be willing to mail you an copy.

Re: Hello there, will this be for me?

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:03 am
by BrianI
Linux Mint should be a good match for your needs. My old HP Probook 6450b runs Mint 19.3 Cinnamon without any problems. Might be worthwhile having a look through any computer magazines in shops to see if they have discs of Mint 19.3 for sale. If not it should be possible to buy media for Mint online? Where are you located? In the UK? in the USA?

Re: Hello there, will this be for me?

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:51 am
by kelevra
Hey Graham, welcome. I have an older laptop than you and have no problem running 19.3 Cinnamon.
If you are unable to get a copy locally of the version you decide on, I would gladly mail you a USB drive with the one you want. Just quote me here or send me a private message.

Re: Hello there, will this be for me?

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:48 pm
by deepakdeshp
kelevra wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:51 am
Hey Graham, welcome. I have an older laptop than you and have no problem running 19.3 Cinnamon.
If you are unable to get a copy locally of the version you decide on, I would gladly mail you a USB drive with the one you want. Just quote me here or send me a private message.
That's great. Does the OP belong to your country? Using multiboot you can pack more than 1 bootable iso on a single USB.

Re: Hello there, will this be for me?

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:39 am
by Graham001
Hi guys, thanks again so much for all the helpful replies.
My next day off work is on Monday so I will have a look at computer magazines to see if any of them have a disk otherwise I will take kelevra up on the very kind offer.

Cheers

Graham

Re: Hello there, will this be for me?

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:34 am
by kelevra
deepakdeshp wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:48 pm
kelevra wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:51 am
Hey Graham, welcome. I have an older laptop than you and have no problem running 19.3 Cinnamon.
If you are unable to get a copy locally of the version you decide on, I would gladly mail you a USB drive with the one you want. Just quote me here or send me a private message.
That's great. Does the OP belong to your country? Using multiboot you can pack more than 1 bootable iso on a single USB.
It shouldn't matter what country Graham is from, should it? I get items from all over the world using Amazon and eBay. Quite recently too.
You are right, if Graham asks, I can send him the 3 different flavours.

Re: Hello there, will this be for me?

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:13 am
by deepakdeshp
kelevra wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:34 am
deepakdeshp wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:48 pm
kelevra wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:51 am
Hey Graham, welcome. I have an older laptop than you and have no problem running 19.3 Cinnamon.
If you are unable to get a copy locally of the version you decide on, I would gladly mail you a USB drive with the one you want. Just quote me here or send me a private message.
That's great. Does the OP belong to your country? Using multiboot you can pack more than 1 bootable iso on a single USB.
It shouldn't matter what country Graham is from, should it? I get items from all over the world using Amazon and eBay. Quite recently too.
You are right, if Graham asks, I can send him the 3 different flavours.
The Windows version of Multiboot was better than Ubuntu version.

Re: Hello there, will this be for me?

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:52 am
by kelevra
deepakdeshp wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:13 am
kelevra wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:34 am
deepakdeshp wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:48 pm


That's great. Does the OP belong to your country? Using multiboot you can pack more than 1 bootable iso on a single USB.
It shouldn't matter what country Graham is from, should it? I get items from all over the world using Amazon and eBay. Quite recently too.
You are right, if Graham asks, I can send him the 3 different flavours.
The Windows version of Multiboot was better than Ubuntu version.
Thanks, I found the windows version. I will use it with my VM if need be.

Re: Hello there, will this be for me?

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:52 am
by deepakdeshp
kelevra wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:52 am
deepakdeshp wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:13 am
kelevra wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:34 am


It shouldn't matter what country Graham is from, should it? I get items from all over the world using Amazon and eBay. Quite recently too.
You are right, if Graham asks, I can send him the 3 different flavours.
The Windows version of Multiboot was better than Ubuntu version.
Thanks, I found the windows version. I will use it with my VM if need be.
Multiboot isnt useful for vm. I quote from the web site
MultiBootUSB is a cross platform software written in python which allows you to install multiple live linux on a USB disk non destructively and option to uninstall distros.

Re: Hello there, will this be for me?

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:22 pm
by kelevra
deepakdeshp wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:52 am
kelevra wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:52 am
deepakdeshp wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:13 am


The Windows version of Multiboot was better than Ubuntu version.
Thanks, I found the windows version. I will use it with my VM if need be.
Multiboot isnt useful for vm. I quote from the web site
MultiBootUSB is a cross platform software written in python which allows you to install multiple live linux on a USB disk non destructively and option to uninstall distros.
I think you misunderstand. I don't have a windows machine, so I will use my VM to install YUMI and create the multiboot USB stick.

Re: Hello there, will this be for me?

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:21 pm
by Graham001
kelevra wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:51 am
Hey Graham, welcome. I have an older laptop than you and have no problem running 19.3 Cinnamon.
If you are unable to get a copy locally of the version you decide on, I would gladly mail you a USB drive with the one you want. Just quote me here or send me a private message.
Hi kelevra,
After scouring town today I was unable to find any magazines with a copy and none of the computer stores could help. Even a couple of small computer installation/maintenance companies whose motto were along the line of “any and all your IT needs met” couldn’t help.

So if your kind offer is still open I would be very grateful if you could send me that usb.
I will of course cover any costs for the stick, postage and your time.

Thanks

Graham

PS; I am in the UK if it makes a difference

Re: Hello there, will this be for me?

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:55 pm
by deepakdeshp
You may use Windows multiboot to pack xfce Mate and Cinnamon on a single USB stick. From that any of the 3 can be booted and tested.