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Grub2 very long boot time

Post by hellfire695 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:20 pm

Hello

I`m using grub2 on lmde, synced with incoming, on a dell inspiron 1501.
I have a 20min boot time, where grub hangs and at grub welcome, I`ve seen some bug reoort regarding grub 1.96 but no solutions

all help is appreciated

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Re: Grub2 very long boot time

Post by viking777 » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:01 pm

Wow, I thought my LMDE system which is taking nearly 2 minutes to boot was slow but your boot up time is MEGA!!

You need to have a look at what is going on. This site will tell you how to do that (it is for Ubuntu not LMDE, but I am sure it will work).

http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-lin ... oot-chart/
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Re: Grub2 very long boot time

Post by DrHu » Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:42 pm

First I would read through the Grub2 setups
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2

Then maybe you can tell me what synced with input means, and how your hardware has been setup: raid or other kinds of non simple master boot partition setups..

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Re: Grub2 very long boot time

Post by hellfire695 » Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:40 am

[quote="DrHu"]First I would read through the Grub2 setups
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2

Then maybe you can tell me what synced with input means, and how your hardware has been setup: raid or other kinds of non simple master boot partition setups..[/quote/]

incoming is the repository i use. now the partition setup is one drive
sda1 swap
sda2 boot
sda3 root
sda4 home


i have tried installing grub to the drive as a whole, and both the root and boot partitions. same result
pretty straight forward set up really
I dont actually believe it is a grub2 error, because i get the same issue with grub-legacy, they share grub-common
unfortunately i was forced install lilo, but would love to solve this issue as lilo is legacy
to give a better idea here is what my grub.cfg was
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
#
# It is automatically generated by grub-mkconfig using templates
# from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub
#

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/00_header ###
if [ -s $prefix/grubenv ]; then
load_env
fi
set default="0"
if [ "${prev_saved_entry}" ]; then
set saved_entry="${prev_saved_entry}"
save_env saved_entry
set prev_saved_entry=
save_env prev_saved_entry
set boot_once=true
fi

function savedefault {
if [ -z "${boot_once}" ]; then
saved_entry="${chosen}"
save_env saved_entry
fi
}

function load_video {
insmod vbe
insmod vga
insmod video_bochs
insmod video_cirrus
}

insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='(/dev/sda,msdos3)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 29810918-4736-4199-bf4b-88458ae595eb
if loadfont /usr/share/grub/unicode.pf2 ; then
set gfxmode=640x480
load_video
insmod gfxterm
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='(/dev/sda,msdos3)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 29810918-4736-4199-bf4b-88458ae595eb
set locale_dir=($root)/boot/grub/locale
set lang=en_US
insmod gettext
fi
terminal_output gfxterm
set timeout=5
### END /etc/grub.d/00_header ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='(/dev/sda,msdos3)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 29810918-4736-4199-bf4b-88458ae595eb
insmod png
if background_image /boot/grub/linuxmint.png; then
true
else
set menu_color_normal=cyan/blue
set menu_color_highlight=white/blue
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###

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Re: Grub2 very long boot time

Post by jjaythomas » Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:24 am

Glad I Found this thread
Was just going to ask (on forums) if this was a LMDE XFCE problem. Thought probally Both LMDE's (Gnome & XFCE) since it seems to be slow boot before the GDM login to pick session/DE used. After the desktop starts it does use less resources and seems way more responsive.

For me It's 20 - 25% longer boot compared to other comparable (kernel used,date updated, target use, ect.)
Not that inportant on a dektop but on a tablet or laptop because your booting more, it's more critical.

For example on same system partioning scheme ect. Xubuntu boots to full destop in 45 seconds PCLOS(phoenix) 43 seconds,saline 47 seconds, Crunch Bang (when had XFCE statler :( )47 seconds, on LMDE it takes 67 seconds to GDM (only another 5 seconds to XFCE Desktop.

ON Desktop(mostly wife's) just waiting for new spin with UP4 to comit
Unfortunly my dektop is actually a docked Tablet/lappy hybrid, where it's undocked to use as a tablet many times a day.
also have other tablet (ancient TC1100) mostly for reading & web surfing :roll:
have a few others or given to me (older/broken) because I like to tinker(and see their exspresion of what Linux can do on their obsolete stuff!)

Current Xubuntu's are fast and relativly stable for normal (read boring) use.
LMDE has been more stable, responsive and Rolling (hope future UPacks won't be as long to wait :cry: but alas boots slower.

I hope the developers address the minor problem in future or someone devises a solution (I run pretty much same service's & autostart in all distros.

J.Jay

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Re: Grub2 very long boot time

Post by viking777 » Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:12 am

on LMDE it takes 67 seconds to GDM (only another 5 seconds to XFCE Desktop.
Figures very similar to mine. LMDE takes about 75 secs total normally (although it has stretched out to 90 occasionally). Ubuntu 12.04, which I have just installed, takes 39.
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Re: Grub2 very long boot time

Post by ibm450 » Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:02 am

i too am experiencing long boot up times (kde - gnome - unity)
at one stage i found mint 10 to take long to boot (like 30 sec) but compared to the newer distros after mint 10, they all seem to take twice or sometimes much longer compared to win 7 that boots up under 15 sec on this laptop from COLD boot.

not happy jane ....

im hoping that these will be resolved when mint13 or should i say ubuntu 12.04 is out as im finding myself booting back into windows more often as i have become very tired of linux woes - firstly, VERY poor battery power life performance, over heating problems,and to now slow boot times.

i bet there be a smarty that will post back stating that their mint / linux boots up less then 10 because they have SSD. :D
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Re: Grub2 very long boot time

Post by jjaythomas » Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:52 pm

Well...
At least so far 12.04 boot speed is about the same (XFCE version at least), but they consentrate speeding up the boot time later, before the release.
haven,t tried a SSD yet, but have 'unetbotin' a install disk to USB pen drive and noticed it booted as fast as a HD installed sys. Need to try to install to a SSD card and try(that,s how alot of "Android Tablets" seem to boot so fast. :lol:

P.S. have seen reports of people installin Win7 to a USB PenDrive (MS normally won't let you) or maybe they burned/flashed it on a chip :?: and got it to boot, and reported under 5 second boot!

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Re: Grub2 very long boot time

Post by ibm450 » Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:03 am

P.S. have seen reports of people installin Win7 to a USB PenDrive (MS normally won't let you) or maybe they burned/flashed it on a chip :?: and got it to boot, and reported under 5 second boot!
wow, where would i get custom flashable rom with win7 on it! sorry to say, but if this is possible, this will put linux to rest. win7 already boots up very fast as it is.

man that be awesome, especially knowing that you would have a rom image ready at hand when ever you wish to reinstall the win7 OS
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Re: Grub2 very long boot time

Post by jjaythomas » Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:17 am

Sorry don,t know... :?:
read about the flashing of roms awhile back. It could of been a hoax for all I Know. Try googling it maybe?

J.Jay

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