Apologies for bashing one-man-no-shows.
I acknowledge the hard work they put in; it would be nice if they had shared their work-in-progress before they disappeared as the works were Linux community editions, but each person has their freedom to do as they want (and this is the beauty of Linux).
Back to the main idea; as time permits, I could do the "testing testing testing" part. I don't know if I have the time to do administration or promotion, with family and a full-time job.
Aye, same here mate. Full-time job, family, hobbies. God bless Clem, his talents, and his gang. I sure as hell don't have the time or talent to do it alone
Every bit helps, though, and with a project that might shoot for Debian Lenny (becoming Stable) GNOME, "TESTING, TESTING, TESTING" will be as important as anything - maybe THE most important thing
You don't know what to fix if you don't have people willing to break it
And the great thing is, as Debian has always said "If you break it, you get to keep both halves"
But if there aren't more posts here soon, I'd like to ask for a post guaging interest in team participation in a more visible part of the forum. I wonder how many people visit this subfora now?
Anyhoo, onwards. My personal proposal:
1. Ok, this one comes from Clem, and I agree: GNOME. The Mint tools are already designed in GTK. KDE4 is also a gigantic uncertainty at this point.
2. I propose using Lenny now, as a base for eventually releasing under Stable. The catch is that by the time a release-worthy client is available, Lenny will likely either already be declared Stable by Debian, or be close enough that the hump shouldn't be too hard. From there, rolling shouldn't be TOO hard, and hopefully a dilligent team pinning will help, along with an augmenting repository.
3. Eyewateringly gorgeous Mint artwork. Does this even have to be mentioned?
4. Full mutlimedia by default, with possibly an option for a "lite" version for USA legal reasons only. Yes, I know this goes against the grain of everything Debian ever stood for, and I've proposed several Debian-style methods so far. Why the change? Mint is about useability, user-freindliness, among many other things. Default Debian is stupendously easy to get up and running. We want to be different, and we want to come with an "out of the box" experience that is *based* on Debian, but is Mint
5. No Compiz by default. Yes, every review seems to center on "spinning the cube". I like the idea, rather, of either asking to enable it during install, or having a Mintinstall package easily available. Compiz is still not stable, is full of memory leaks, etc... Instead, I propose a more modern re-theming.
6. Why? Well, several reasons, actually. First of which would be "why not?" If you weren't at least a *little* curious, you wouldn't even be using Linux
Second, Mint is a very ambitious and yet stable, up-to-date OS. A Debian sub-project would be more conservative as to hardware requirements and Compiz bling, but at the sake of cutting-edge. Third, the worst we can do is either only 4 people even respond to this thread and we never get off the ground, or utterly, completely fail. In either situation, hopefully what we learn from failure furthers Mint. And if it succeeded? Then there's another, distinct choice in the Mint family
Again, though, and it can't be stressed enough: it would require time and people. The first is plentiful. The second, we'll see