Weather Applet (Weather Report 1.8.1) Dead?

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Weather Applet (Weather Report 1.8.1) Dead?

Postby rcentros » Wed Aug 24, 2016 1:17 am

I'm using Linux Mint Mate 17.1 (32 bit) on my desktop. Weather Report (1.8.1) quit working sometime yesterday or today. Changing cities changes nothing. Does anyone know if it is currently down? -- or is this issue unique to me?

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Re: Weather Applet (Weather Report 1.8.1) Dead?

Postby trytip » Wed Aug 24, 2016 1:31 am

mint/mate 17.3 and i can confirm the weather panel is down, noticed it just a few hours ago. it's down in the clock preferences and if you add it by the way of the add to panel

i was just about to look for a weather app but i'll wait see if comes back. they do go down sometimes, hope it comes back up

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Re: Weather Applet (Weather Report 1.8.1) Dead?

Postby Monsta » Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:27 am

Owners of http://weather.noaa.gov shut down the service (a few hours ago it seems), so libmateweather has nowhere to get the weather data from. That means both Clock and Weather applets are unable to show anything. I'm currently testing http://aviationweather.gov as possible alternative. Seems to work here. I'll give it a bit more testing before committing the changes.

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Re: Weather Applet (Weather Report 1.8.1) Dead?

Postby rdh76 » Wed Aug 24, 2016 6:47 am

Also true for Linux Mint Mate 18 as of yesterday. Thank you for looking for a solution.

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Re: Weather Applet (Weather Report 1.8.1) Dead?

Postby rdh76 » Wed Aug 24, 2016 7:47 am

I have found the same information on forecast.weather.gov that formerly was on noaa.weather.gov

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Re: Weather Applet (Weather Report 1.8.1) Dead?

Postby leo.smith » Wed Aug 24, 2016 9:30 am

Dead for me too.

When testing please check that weather sources outside the USA work too.

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Re: Weather Applet (Weather Report 1.8.1) Dead?

Postby leo.smith » Wed Aug 24, 2016 9:34 am

Monsta wrote:Owners of http://weather.noaa.gov shut down the service (a few hours ago it seems), so libmateweather has nowhere to get the weather data from. That means both Clock and Weather applets are unable to show anything. I'm currently testing http://aviationweather.gov as possible alternative. Seems to work here. I'll give it a bit more testing before committing the changes.


Appx how long before the changes hit the repos?

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Re: Weather Applet (Weather Report 1.8.1) Dead?

Postby rcentros » Wed Aug 24, 2016 1:35 pm

Monsta wrote:Owners of http://weather.noaa.gov shut down the service (a few hours ago it seems), ...


It looks like http://aviationweather.gov gives the exact same information that http://weather.noaa.gov used to give. Of course, not being a developer, I have no idea how much work is involved in connecting to it.

Thanks for looking into this.

EDIT: It looks like aviationweather.gov redirects to http://forecast.weather.gov for local forecasts (where I get the same choices for location as I used to get) -- also part of NOAA. (But you probably knew that ... sorry.)
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Re: Weather Applet (Weather Report 1.8.1) Dead?

Postby ostracized » Wed Aug 24, 2016 2:07 pm

Monsta wrote:Owners of http://weather.noaa.gov shut down the service...I'm currently testing http://aviationweather.gov as possible alternative...I'll give it a bit more testing before committing the changes.


Hey Monsta, I'd be curious to know the details of this and if there's encrypted requests to noaa or weather.gov. I suspect "no" but really would encourage you to code in secure connections whenever possible. fwiw, here's the syslog if anyone's interested.

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MateWeather-CRITICAL **: weather_info_get_icon_name: assertion 'info != NULL' failed
MateWeather-CRITICAL **: weather_info_get_temp_summary: assertion 'info != NULL' failed
MateWeather-CRITICAL **: weather_info_get_icon_name: assertion 'info != NULL' failed
MateWeather-WARNING **: Failed to get IWIN forecast data: 404 Not Found
MateWeather-WARNING **: Failed to get METAR data: 404 Not Found.

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Re: Weather Applet (Weather Report 1.8.1) Dead?

Postby WharfRat » Thu Aug 25, 2016 8:37 am

I'm glad to see that this problem was the consequence of a defunct web site.

When I noticed that both the desktop and laptop were not showing the weather I thought the feature was eliminated for some reason.

Thanks Monsta for looking into this - looking forward to its return.
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Re: Weather Applet (Weather Report 1.8.1) Dead?

Postby chrisuk » Fri Aug 26, 2016 2:27 am

This is now fixed in Ubuntu Mate, so I'd guess it will make it to Mint soon
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Re: Weather Applet (Weather Report 1.8.1) Dead?

Postby rcentros » Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:20 am

chrisuk wrote:This is now fixed in Ubuntu Mate, so I'd guess it will make it to Mint soon


Good news! Thanks.

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Re: Weather Applet (Weather Report 1.8.1) Dead?

Postby Lando Calrissian » Fri Aug 26, 2016 12:14 pm

chrisuk wrote:This is now fixed in Ubuntu Mate, so I'd guess it will make it to Mint soon


This hasn't been fixed in Ubuntu MATE regular 14.04 and 16.04 versions. There is a new package available if you add Xenial PPA for MATE 1.14.

I hope Linux Mint creates a package for libmateweather 1.8 because I am not sure Ubuntu MATE will. :(

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Re: Weather Applet (Weather Report 1.8.1) Dead?

Postby rcentros » Fri Aug 26, 2016 4:44 pm

Lando Calrissian wrote:
chrisuk wrote:This is now fixed in Ubuntu Mate, so I'd guess it will make it to Mint soon


This hasn't been fixed in Ubuntu MATE regular 14.04 and 16.04 versions. There is a new package available if you add Xenial PPA for MATE 1.14.

I hope Linux Mint creates a package for libmateweather 1.8 because I am not sure Ubuntu MATE will. :(


Oh, okay. I think I'm using Mate 1.8 so (I'm guessing) the Xenial PPA wouldn't help out at all.

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Re: Weather Applet (Weather Report 1.8.1) Dead?

Postby ostracized » Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:04 pm

rcentros wrote:I'm using Mate 1.8 so (I'm guessing)


inxi -S

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Re: Weather Applet (Weather Report 1.8.1) Dead?

Postby Lando Calrissian » Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:28 pm

rcentros wrote:Oh, okay. I think I'm using Mate 1.8 so (I'm guessing) the Xenial PPA wouldn't help out at all.

Correct. Linux Mint MATE 17.1 and Ubuntu MATE 14.04 both use the Trusty base and MATE 1.8. So we need libmateweather 1.8 for Trusty.

Linux Mint might be able to push this update faster because they don't need Stable Release Update approval from Cannonical. Ubuntu MATE doesn't need it for 14.04 either because it's not an official release, but so far nothing in the repos.

I feel a little sorry for the devs. Combine Trusty + Xenial + LMDE + MATE 1.8 + MATE 1.10 + MATE 1.12 + MATE 1.14 + x86 + x64 and the number of new packages required is not insignificant...

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Re: Weather Applet (Weather Report 1.8.1) Dead?

Postby rcentros » Fri Aug 26, 2016 7:54 pm

ostracized wrote:
rcentros wrote:I'm using Mate 1.8 so (I'm guessing)


inxi -S


On Linux Mint Mate 17.1 it returns "Desktop: N/A" ? I had tried inxi -F earlier. My "last resort" is to just go to Synaptic and search for "mate" -- but it seems like there was another command to give information about the Desktop. (I've got a good memory, but it's short.)

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Re: Weather Applet (Weather Report 1.8.1) Dead?

Postby rcentros » Fri Aug 26, 2016 7:55 pm

Lando Calrissian wrote:
rcentros wrote:I feel a little sorry for the devs. Combine Trusty + Xenial + LMDE + MATE 1.8 + MATE 1.10 + MATE 1.12 + MATE 1.14 + x86 + x64 and the number of new packages required is not insignificant...


It's so much easier when you aren't the one doing it.

Thank you Developers.

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Re: Weather Applet (Weather Report 1.8.1) Dead?

Postby ostracized » Fri Aug 26, 2016 7:56 pm

rcentros wrote:
ostracized wrote:
rcentros wrote:I'm using Mate 1.8 so (I'm guessing)


inxi -S


On Linux Mint Mate 17.1 it returns "Desktop: N/A" ? I had tried inxi -F earlier. My "last resort" is to just go to Synaptic and search for "mate" -- but it seems like there was another command to give information about the Desktop. (I've got a good memory, but it's short.)


Try the "system monitor" -> system tab

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Re: Weather Applet (Weather Report 1.8.1) Dead?

Postby austin.texas » Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:03 pm

rcentros wrote:On Linux Mint Mate 17.1 it returns "Desktop: N/A" ? I had tried inxi -F earlier.

On earlier versions of inxi you get that result, but not with newer versions of inxi.
What version do you have?

~ $ inxi
CPU~Quad core AMD A8-3870 APU with Radeon HD Graphics (-MCP-) speed/max~1200/3000 MHz Kernel~4.5.0-040500-generic x86_64 Up~3 min Mem~1405.2/7476.8MB HDD~1620.3GB(13.1% used) Procs~218 Client~Shell inxi~2.3.0

The command to install the latest inxi is:

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sudo inxi -U
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